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Has anyone seen anything related to "Phase II" yet? I'm very disappointed with this development. It has the potential to be a fantastic development, but they raised their prices too high and are taking forever to do anything with it.

There's a great new website (by Jeff Stein) for City Museum -- and the lofts, here.



I don't think the City Museum Lofts are for everyone. They have not followed the more usual model of having a basic plan then choosing from some available up-grades.



Each of the build-outs so far has been super-customized by the purchasers and hand-crafted by the Museum's artistic crew when they aren't welding new pieces onto MonstroCity or carving things in the Enchanted Caves. Most of the residents spent hours in their lofts talking to the artists about what they wanted and where they wanted it.

The idea of living in a masterpeice appeals to me. Maybe it would be something like living in Gaudi's Casa Batllo www.casabatllo.es or La Pedrera

Their lofts are amazing. I would live there if I could afford it.

Catch Cassilly or one of the crew members some night at The Cabin, the ever-expanding little log cabin in the west parking lot. They usually hang out there (obvious in their gear) from quitting until about 7:00.



Ask for a tour of the roof -- and an idea of what they plan to have up there by summer.

I would like to give Cassilly the Gateway Mall and an unlimited budget. He could make St. Louis the Barcelona of the new world.

Those are his benches on the Gateway Mall.

publiceye wrote:There's a great new website (by Jeff Stein) for City Museum -- and the lofts, here.



I don't think the City Museum Lofts are for everyone. They have not followed the more usual model of having a basic plan then choosing from some available up-grades.



Each of the build-outs so far has been super-customized by the purchasers and hand-crafted by the Museum's artistic crew when they aren't welding new pieces onto MonstroCity or carving things in the Enchanted Caves. Most of the residents spent hours in their lofts talking to the artists about what they wanted and where they wanted it.

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When did they finally update the website? I should have complained months ago. If I had seen some of those changes, especially on the price I probably would have been interested. Then again, if I reserved now, when could I move in?

You should call and find out. I've been in most of the ones built out so far -- and they are spectacular. What makes them different from most other projects is the skill of the crew. You aren't going to half-ass a wall when your other job involves hanging a school bus from a roof.

publiceye wrote:You should call and find out. I've been in most of the ones built out so far -- and they are spectacular. What makes them different from most other projects is the skill of the crew. You aren't going to half-ass a wall when your other job involves hanging a school bus from a roof.

While I would love to move in, and I think they place will look fantastic when it's done, I put down my reservation last April and signed my contract in August. At the time, City Museum's prices were way to high and parking was a monthly rental thing. Also, no full size washer and dryer. I know it's dumb, but I need the full size, I'm a big guy. What I'm realizing as I type this is that City Museum was just way to undecided when I was trying to figure out where I was going to go, and that was the bottom line.



Maybe by the time I'm ready to move out of the place I'm buying now, one of the upper floors will be done, and I can move in there.

^Well said, I had the exact same thoughts when I reserved last May and signed in October.



[EDIT] Not at City Museum due to said issues.

Makes sense. See the second 'graph of my original post. These are idiosyncratic spaces -- and conditions. I have the impression that most of the first residents there had the financial resources and lifestyle not to need many deadlines.



Still, you should see them!



Maybe the next phases (the upper floors) will use more usual development and build-out techniques.

publiceye wrote:Makes sense. See the second 'graph of my original post. These are idiosyncratic spaces -- and conditions. I have the impression that most of the first residents there had the financial resources and lifestyle not to need many deadlines.



Still, you should see them!



Maybe the next phases (the upper floors) will use more usual development and build-out techniques.

That must be nice to have the money to buy a place and not be constrained as to when you actually have to move in to it.



My bigger concern is: is the the last redesign for the lofts? Or are they going to redo everything again in 6 months. I guess I'm just really pissed at such a great development with absolutely no timetable or consistency.



The funny thing is that when I looked at the City Museum last spring, the prices and designs are not much different than now. They tried to capitalize on a boom and jacked up prices. I guess that backfired on them so they went back to the original plans. The unit I was interested in was listed $40k higher on the spring house tour than it is now. The unit hasn't changed at all except the price. And let me tell you the shock of seeing that high price on the house tour after knowing the price and having Bob Cassily personally give me a tour, show me the space, and even talk about how it could be designed inside. I'd still love to live there, but I don't know if I can trust the direction of the development.

I've visited a few different lofts in the Washington Ave. Loft District, and the Lofts at City Museum are my favorites. Unfortunately, I didn't have my digital camera--so I took a few shots with a cheap one-time-use camera. The place is far more breathtaking in person. I especially admire the metalwork on the counters and walls. The curves in the walls in the individual lofts makes a drastic aesthetic difference. The winding hallways are stunning.

^ By any chance would your middle name be Scrooge?

The Central Scrutinizer wrote:

Resurrectus wrote:I've visited a few different lofts in the Washington Ave. Loft District, and the Lofts at City Museum are my favorites. Unfortunately, I didn't have my digital camera--so I took a few shots with a cheap one-time-use camera. The place is far more breathtaking in person. I especially admire the metalwork on the counters and walls. The curves in the walls in the individual lofts makes a drastic aesthetic difference. The winding hallways are stunning.

I visited them too. Just dreadful. And as a bonus, you can have screaming kids right outside your window all day long!

Are you being sarcastic or serious!?! The screaming kids are optional. You can get a loft on a side that doesn't have windows facing MonstroCity.