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PostSep 09, 2022#51

A Harbor Town type development in Gabaret and Chouteau Islands would be pretty cool

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PostSep 09, 2022#52

Strong second of this idea.  Kingsmill in the Williamsburg, VA area did a Harbor town/ sea pines inspired development and it is excellent.  

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PostSep 09, 2022#53

Flooding issues would prevent this.

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PostSep 10, 2022#54

Didn't they keep 270 open even through the '92 flood? (I expect it was heroic efforts. Don't recall for sure. I was down in Festus/Crystal City trying to keep that above water. With . . . incomplete success. Was taking a lunch break when we found out Monarch in Chesterfield had given way, which haunts me to this day driving down40.)

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PostSep 10, 2022#55

STLinCHI wrote:
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Flooding issues would prevent this.
Such issues didn’t stop Harbor Town

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PostSep 10, 2022#56

^ Oceans don't cause flooding in the same way that rivers do.

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PostSep 10, 2022#57

Harbor Town is in Memphis

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PostSep 11, 2022#58

^ My bad. Google kept pointing me toward Harbour Town in SC. I didn't even notice the spelling difference.

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PostSep 12, 2022#59

^ I did the same thing.  D'oh. 

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PostOct 04, 2022#60

City eyes slate of tax subsidies for $325M north riverfront plan
The city of St. Louis has begun to advance a slate of subsidies that could be granted to the $325 million entertainment, restaurant and retail complex proposed along the Mississippi River in north St. Louis.
The 67.5-acre Lighthouse Point project at 11000 Riverview Drive, on the border of St. Louis County, is still in the concept stages after the St. Louis Port Authority voted last month to enter into a preliminary agreement with the developer, M3 Development Partners of Nashville, Tennessee. Constructed at the site of the former North Shore Golf Course, the project could feature a marina, water park, 35,000-square-foot conference center, 375 hotel rooms, 30,000 square feet of retail and, possibly, 50 condominiums, among other attractions, according to the developer’s preliminary plans. M3 said last month that it would soon complete a master plan, and could start on infrastructure work by the second quarter of 2023.

The alderwoman who represents the site, Lisa Middlebrook, recently filed a series of bills that could grant the project tax subsidies.
https://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/news/2022/10/04/incentives-lighthouse-point-north-riverfront-louis.html

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PostOct 04, 2022#61

Just feels like they could squeeze a lot more out of riverfront property with interstate access. The uses are fine, everything should just be doubled. Should I assume they have future phases?

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PostOct 05, 2022#62

I have a hard time believing that USACE would allow that marina thing

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PostOct 05, 2022#63

Why would the Corps have an issue with a recreational marina on a stretch of the Mississippi where commercial traffic doesn’t operate?  Especially that close to the confluence with the Missouri River, a river with quite a bit of recreational boating.

Recreational boats are already allowed through the Chain of Rocks provided water levels are high enough…commercial traffic has the canal.

Would this be that gigantic of a difference than the recreational marina in downtown Alton that has to navigate the lock and dam and commercial traffic on that stretch?

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PostOct 18, 2022#64

North St. Louis waterpark, marina proposal hits snag over questions about incentives
https://www.stltoday.com/business/local ... -top-story

Seem like some pretty valid questions...

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PostNov 08, 2022#65

The project just cleared committee for the tax breaks. I hope this project is successful. 
Tax breaks for a proposed marina complex on the city's northernmost riverfront cleared an aldermanic panel Monday after weeks of debate.
Aldermen postponed a vote last month on northside Alderman Lisa Middlebrook's plan to offer 15 years of property tax abatement and a sales tax waiver on construction materials for the project, citing concerns it could cause environmental problems on the Mississippi River and disrupt port operations elsewhere on the riverfront.

But this week, assurances that plans would be reviewed by federal regulators — and the yearning for a massive investment on the city's long-neglected north side — won out. 
https://www.stltoday.com/business/local/north-st-louis-waterpark-marina-proposal-clears-committee/article_83823626-f065-5489-8095-574f972b6d15.html#tracking-source=home-the-latest

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PostJul 19, 2023#66

Are there any updates on this one? 

Kind of expecting something to stall this one out, but I'm really rooting for it. 

PostFeb 09, 2024#67

Any updates? 

I wouldn't be shocked to hear that this is dead. 

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PostFeb 09, 2024#68

RockChalkSTL wrote:
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Any updates? 

I wouldn't be shocked to hear that this is dead. 
This is not a recent update per se, but this from April 2023 said to expect to movement on the site until the first part of this year:
https://www.constructionjournal.com/pro ... 375e3.html
. As of April 6, 2023, the project is in Development. St. Louis Port Authority will begin negotiating a development agreement talks. The project has received approval for the tax subsidy district. Information regarding architect or contractor has yet to be determined. Although a firm timeline has yet to be announced, construction is not expected before first quarter 2024.
-RBB

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PostMay 24, 2024#69

Do we have any updates on this one that are from within the last year? 

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PostMay 28, 2024#70

RockChalkSTL wrote:
May 24, 2024
Do we have any updates on this one that are from within the last year? 
I took this photo of the development from the old Chain of Rocks bridge a few weeks back. Lots of cranes on site, though I was there on a weekend so I've no idea whether any have been active recently.

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PostMay 28, 2024#71

Any cranes there are highly likely to be for the ongoing chain of rocks bridge construction.

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PostMay 15, 2025#72

This project that was never going to actually happen has stalled.

https://www.ksdk.com/article/news/local ... 245f9160a7

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PostMay 15, 2025#73

Didn't need an article to know that. 

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