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PostJun 29, 2022#676

The Board of Adjustment approved zoning variances

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PostJun 29, 2022#677

They are checking their boxes. What's next? 

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PostJun 29, 2022#678

Submit a building permit application I think.

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PostJun 29, 2022#679

Is a groundbreaking possible this year?

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PostJun 29, 2022#680

For this size of a building I think it will take the city about 60-75 times for permit review, so maybe?

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PostJul 01, 2022#681

KSDK Article 07/01/2022 4:23 pm
STL Is on a roll....
30-story Central West End tower passes key milestone toward final approval
The Central West End tower moves towards final approval as The Board of Adjustment gives the preliminary greenlight to the project.

https://www.ksdk.com/article/news/local ... f94f342b0c

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PostAug 01, 2022#682

Looking at the renderings for this and looking at One Hundred, I think I'm going to end up liking Albion more when all is said and done. I know renderings aren't always accurate, but that's not what I'm looking at here. The fact the mechanical stuff will be covered, the facade has curves on it broken up only by two recessed balcony areas, the facade has bronze metal accents, street level on Kingshighway will be more inviting than One Hundred, and the stair stepped pattern it creates on this stretch of road is a good thing to see.

Definitely looking forward to seeing this rise.

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PostAug 01, 2022#683

I think this tower is going to look really well next to One Hundred. The jagged edges of One Hundred and the curvy edges of Albion will compliment each other really well. 

An word on what the height will be in ft.? I'm assuming around 350'-360' including the walled off mechanical components?

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PostAug 01, 2022#684

jacob_rb_15 wrote:
Aug 01, 2022
I think this tower is going to look really well next to One Hundred. The jagged edges of One Hundred and the curvy edges of Albion will compliment each other really well. 

An word on what the height will be in ft.? I'm assuming around 350'-360' including the walled off mechanical components?
Based on this, height to the top of the mechanical roof is 335ft.

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PostAug 03, 2022#685

So anyone with a realistic timeline on final approval(s), permits and possible ground breaking.  Consider that One Hundred almost fully leased it will be nice St Louis could at least have the permits go on the books for 2022.

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PostSep 20, 2022#686

same question as dredger- for those of you that know how this stuff works- what is a realistic timeframe to expect any news or tangible progress on a project like this?  Thank you!

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PostSep 20, 2022#687

The next HUDZ meeting at the BoA is September 22nd. It’s not on the agenda.

I believe Pihl has to file legislation for it to clear the board. If it even gets approval this year I’ll eat a f*cking brick.

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PostSep 20, 2022#688

What aspect requires a board bill?

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PostSep 21, 2022#689

How can we convince another Alderperson to ignore courtesy and write the bill themself?


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PostSep 21, 2022#690

quincunx wrote:
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What aspect requires a board bill?
Last I saw in the press was that it has to go to the BoA for full approval. I’d imagine a board bill would be involved there. Though I could be wrong.
A St. Louis board approved a series of variances for a new 30-story apartment tower in the Central West End, bringing the $135 million project closer to final approval from the Board of Aldermen.
https://www.ksdk.com/article/news/local ... f94f342b0c

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PostSep 21, 2022#691

Huh, wish they were specific. For instance a changing zoning or a tax abatement requires a board bill.

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PostSep 21, 2022#692

Do variances have to go before the board of aldermen? Because if so, Tina has a lot of board bills to introduce

If variances don’t have to go before the board of aldermen, I think this project is fully approved already. It’s not seeking a tax incentive anymore, so that skips out of that process.

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PostSep 21, 2022#693

No, variances do not.

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PostSep 21, 2022#694

Since they are not seeking incentives at this point, I don't see any need for a Board Bill. The variances are already approved from the Board of Adjustment. I'd guess things right now are progressing through the typical due diligence work of nailing down the final financing details, construction cost estimating, and detailed design work. That takes time.

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PostSep 21, 2022#695

^^^ Asking this as someone that isn’t 100% clear on the process.  If this is true, why the delay?

They’re not looking for specific incentives (abatements or TIFs) so what’s the hold up?  Why not send this one through and get it going?

Again, I’m just not clear on the process…just repeating what I saw in the press.

^ Appreciate the reply, that makes some sense.

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PostSep 21, 2022#696

I think what's left needed from the city is a building permit approval.

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PostSep 21, 2022#697

quincunx wrote:
Sep 21, 2022
I think what's left needed from the city is a building permit approval.
I’d put more faith into you and other users here than KSDK. Really hope that’s the case, would love to see this one get moving.

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PostSep 21, 2022#698

Well, then I hope construction gets going soon. They're probably doing some closed-door bidding right now.

Also, found these online explaining the facade materials and verifying that the height to the tip is 345ft (previous was 335ft based on a site plan showing the overhead).
AlbionElevation.png (2.81MiB)
AlbionMaterial.png (3.21MiB)

Additionally, here are some floor plans showing the 1st, 5th, typical, 23rd and 30th levels before the shift southward. I doubt these have changed much since then. It seems like the 23rd floor will be home to premium units since they'll include their own terraces.
Albion1stFloor.png (2.34MiB)
Albion5thFloor.png (1.31MiB)
AlbionFloors.png (2.02MiB)

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PostSep 21, 2022#699

Some really nice detailing on this one. Can't wait. 

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PostSep 21, 2022#700

Thanks for sharing, Chris.  I'm excited to see this one get going.  I think this building with its rounded edges will be an excellent companion to the more boxy Chase and the jagged edges of One Hundred.

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