I thought I would post these on this forum since I know you guys are really struggling with Cordish/Cardinals and Ballpark Village.



I follow StL development, but don't post too often over here because I simply don't have time.



KC's development has had problems as well. They should be topping out on a 37 story condo/hotel right now, but that has not even broke ground and Downtown KC still needs more residents for all of this to be successful long term.



But I think for the most part, it's been very much a success so far. Like StL, KC has tons of urban districts and areas to offer locals and tourists, but like StL, most suburbanites are pretty intimidated by the "city". The district helps alleviate that problem a bit by giving the city another entertain/dining option.



Sometimes I wonder if you really want something quite as “canned” as the P&L district right between your stadium and the heart of Downtown StL. I mean, if this were in StL, I would avoid it myself and go to the more authentic and real areas of the city, but it does serve a purpose and both KC and STL have a hell of a time getting private investment in the core. So, I would take a Cordish development over under-utilized land and parking lots. At least in KC, there are several historic buildings that are part of the project, two theaters and a major hotel.



I hope all goes well in StL and you get something going soon. That is such a high profile location.



Here are the photos...

Very nice job with the pics, as always.

MattnSTL wrote:Very nice job with the pics, as always.

Thanks Matt. I'm surprised this didn't generate more interest. After I posted this, I saw that this section "excludes" KC and Chicago. When I posted, I saw KC and didn't comprehend the "excludes" part.



What's that about, did you guys decide to purge anything regarding KC and Chicago? haha.



Anyway. StL is going to be one of my first cities to hit this spring with things green up. I plan to get brand new aerials and more ground photos since I think that my StL photos don't quite measure up to most of my cities on my website.



Again, good luck with your Cordish development. Something needs to go there.

Nah, Grid is fine. He's a good guy with exceptional photography talent. The no KC and no Chicago is there because we don't want discussions for those respective cities here, but we wanted to give a place for some discussions about the rest of the two states our Metro is contained within. But in this case, he is showing us what Cordish has done in KC, and maybe a little idea of what could be in our future. Good to know that you will be back soon to take some new treats for my eyes.

Why would I go through the trouble to post on this forum just to "test the moderators".



I'm not 12 years old. I just thought you guys might be interested in what Cordish built in KC. This is not a KC photo thread, it's pretty much the P&L district and that's it.



I found it sort of odd that you guys are actually saying no KC or Chicago threads. I really did read that wrong.



I just didn't expect that. I enjoy the photo threads that Jive posts on the KCrag forums.



Anyway, I'm not into comparing KC to StL since I'm pretty much into both towns.



Again good luck with your cordish development, hopefully you can learn a few things from KC (right or wrong) with your development.



Thanks again Matt for defending me, I appreciate it.

Thanks for posting those photos, GRID. And thanks to the mods for not zapping it. I agree that this is relevant, in the context of our own Cordish development.



Great shots, too, by the way.

Thanks for the pics, GRID. We'll treat ya' better here than I get treated over at the Rag', haha.