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there is some speculation over at skyscraperpage that this:

Warehouse project clears another hurdle

might have something to do with IKEA.

mill204 wrote:I doubt Amazon is interested in an Illinois location, especially after their recent fight against sales taxes being imposed upon them that they won when a judge found the Illinois law unconstitutional. And Missouri and Illinois are already well covered by Amazon's existing warehouses in KS and IN with locations in both states able to cover the entirety of Missouri with 1 day ground shipping via both UPS and FedEx.

No, they've actually conceded the sales tax issue now that they aim for same-day delivery.

http://www.newser.com/story/153913/amaz ... ivery.html

^ Short of Amazon creating their own home delivery service to eliminate reliance on UPS and FedEx, I have never been able to comprehend how same-day delivery would ever be feasible. The only type of same-day delivery that works is picking up an item from a retail store by one's self.

[Amazon CFO Tom Szkutak] did note that Amazon is aggressively opening new fulfillment centers with the goal of reducing shipping times, saying, “We’ll continue to work on behalf of customers to serve them even better.” But he repeated that it’s not feasible to do same-day shipping “on a broad scale.”

mill204 wrote:^ Short of Amazon creating their own home delivery service to eliminate reliance on UPS and FedEx, I have never been able to comprehend how same-day delivery would ever be feasible. The only type of same-day delivery that works is picking up an item from a retail store by one's self.

[Amazon CFO Tom Szkutak] did note that Amazon is aggressively opening new fulfillment centers with the goal of reducing shipping times, saying, “We’ll continue to work on behalf of customers to serve them even better.” But he repeated that it’s not feasible to do same-day shipping “on a broad scale.”

Amazon same-day delivery is already available in ten metro areas and is likely to expand over time. For an idea of how it works, take a look here: http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/ ... =200105970

Might be mistaken, but believe one of the reasons you have big warehouses in Metro East, beyond the cheaper cost of greenfield development, is a pretty big tax advantage on the property/warehouse itself. I believe the property taxes have been exempted for the most part.

It's a shame that we have finally missed out on the opportunity to bring in a world class retailer like IKEA. Another win for KC

http://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/morn ... -city.html

thedude wrote:It's a shame that we have finally missed out on the opportunity to bring in a world class retailer like IKEA. Another win for KC

http://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/morn ... -city.html

IMHO St. Louis spends way too much time trying to be Chicago, ignoring the fact that in the meantime, KC has made itself St. Louis with its wins on Google Fiber, IKEA (love 'em or hate 'em, it's still a "win" overall), etc.

So, let me get this straight. The way the article is written, not only did Hadley fall through, but IKEA chose KC because Hadley fell through. I was not aware of the fact that Hadley fell through, nor was I aware of the fact that IKEA in St. Louis hinged upon their locating at Hadley or they would choose KC. Maybe I am reading into this way too much, but that is the way the article sounds. Anyone shed some light on this?

Is the prevailing view here that we are not getting an IKEA because KC is getting one?

I don't know if I buy that.

"Joseph Roth, an Ikea spokesman, said the Kansas City store does not diminish St. Louis' chances.

"They are completely separate trade areas in our mind," he said. "We still recognize the customer base that exists for us in St. Louis. We just have not committed to a time frame yet or found the perfect site."

But he said they did find that perfect site in Kansas City."

http://www.stltoday.com/business/column ... f6878.html

I can only hope and pray that this thread will now begin the long, slow decline to the bottom of the trash heap where it belongs.

http://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/morn ... nship.html

I had not paid attention to this. That is too bad. Kind of eye-opening that
IKEA announced plans to build in KC 10 days after Pace pulled out of this deal.
I think there is a good chance that IKEA's decision had something to do
with Pace pulling out of the Hadley deal. What is the law on emminent domain?
Is there any chance RH uses ED to get this property? Since Pace pulled out, that may be why IKEA spokespeople said they have yet to find a suitable site in St. Louis.
I am positive that IKEA would be better off in the heart of the STL metro area, in close proximity to one of the busiest retail areas in the Midwest, versus a burb in KS.
I think Hadley would have had the space to house an IKEA.

As cool as an IKEA would be in RH, I'd rather see that area used for a mixed use development. However, with Menards going in, it will be a retail area anyway. IKEA would have looked great, driving east, with Clayton to the north, Brentwood to the south and the modern 170 interchange. That area is booming and an IKEA would have made it that much more booming. I'd prefer a soccer stadium, but we know that was a pipedream. With the new Drury going in, I think Hadley will happen, at some point. I would be fine with IKEA anywhere in the region, but that Hadley site is perfect.

welp...I guess we can start scouting locations for a Nebraska Furniture Mart

i vote for a century21
http://www.c21stores.com/stores

Ridiculous:

http://www.stlmag.com/Blogs/SLM-Daily/O ... yAnd-IKEA/

http://www.kansascity.com/2012/10/01/38 ... -is-a.html

I thought it was funny how KC is really focused on the fact that they scored an IKEA and they have something St. Louis does not. That complex over there in KC is as strong as ever.

And while I’m not into the St. Louis rivalry thing, having Ikea come here does make Kansas City feel a bit more cosmopolitan.

This is big consumer news too. Just ask the folks in St. Louis who’ve been dying to get an Ikea for years.
“I guess the bright side is that now we’ll have another option in Kansas City,” a St. Louis Post-Dispatch columnist told readers, “but still, I don’t think that’s going to be much consolation to the Ikea fanatics in town.”

If anything, I hope we get an IKEA so we don't have to listen to KC folks rubbing it in. They only have 3 things I envy. The Plaza, an MLS Soccer Stadium and IKEA. Oh and I forgot to mention the fountains. . .

And the race track.

I find it extremely amusing that KC residents would associate IKEA with "cosmopolitan."

DogtownBnR wrote:They only have 3 things I envy. The Plaza, an MLS Soccer Stadium and IKEA. Oh and I forgot to mention the fountains. . .

So just the stadium? Not the team as well?

^I'm not sure about wanting their team, but A TEAM, yes.

I'd be more interested in seeing World Cup Qualifiers, various teams coming in from Europe for exhibition games, versus MLS. (Not saying I wouldn't support or watch our MLS team)

I left one thing off of the list.. Brush Creek. I wish River Des Peres was like Brush Creek and not a smelly cesspool. I know BC is natural, but there has to be something that can be done to make RDP more attractive.