What modern amenity would you be willing not to have in your home?
Nice! Thanks Grover... anyone know much about Laclede Town beyond the 2 pieces of scrap that can be found online?
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^ By the way - I hate you for posting those pics. What a HUGE, HUGE loss for St. Louis. Of course I likely only say that because today much of that area is now open fields. Demolition of like places has occurred in other places, but is often replaced by like density, etc. 
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Grover wrote:^ By the way - I hate you for posting those pics. What a HUGE, HUGE loss for St. Louis. Of course I likely only say that because today much of that area is now open fields. Demolition of like places has occurred in other places, but is often replaced by like density, etc.
The section east of SLU needs to be developed with a well thought-out plan. I would love to see mixed-use buildings line Olive to mirror the buildings on the north side of the street. Once you get past Pappy's there really isn't much there. An old Landmarks Association newsletter featured a shot of how that stretch used to look, and there were some beautiful buildings there.
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I like how that whole area is nice and green now.
DeBaliviere wrote:Grover wrote:^ By the way - I hate you for posting those pics. What a HUGE, HUGE loss for St. Louis. Of course I likely only say that because today much of that area is now open fields. Demolition of like places has occurred in other places, but is often replaced by like density, etc.
The section east of SLU needs to be developed with a well thought-out plan. I would love to see mixed-use buildings line Olive to mirror the buildings on the north side of the street. Once you get past Pappy's there really isn't much there. An old Landmarks Association newsletter featured a shot of how that stretch used to look, and there were some beautiful buildings there.
Maybe we can build a federally funded, mixed-income neighborhood with pastel colored townhouses and civic features, and a countercultural artist scene, and a pub with a softball team.
The architect that led the team responsible for Laclede Town's inception and design was Washington DC based Chloethiel Woodard Smith. Here is a link to a fascinating bit of visuals on a large scale residential project built in the nation's capitol contemporaneous to Laclede Town, called Capitol Park. The first page is a short history on Capitol Park, but follow the link to the photo gallery and get a real haunting glimpse of what Laclede Town looked like, as Capitol Park was very similar. Laclede Town didn't need to die a slow, painful death, but became too big for its own management control. Here's the link:
http://capitolparkii.org/information/history.html
P.S. follow the 'archives' link for some interesting marketing brochures for the project from the era.
http://capitolparkii.org/information/history.html
P.S. follow the 'archives' link for some interesting marketing brochures for the project from the era.
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"anyone know much about Laclede Town beyond the 2 pieces of scrap that can be found online?"
I lived there for 18 months. I was one of the first tenants in the building at 60 North Ewing, the high rise in Laclede East/Breakthrough.
What did you want to know? Design of the units, social/cultural aspects, etc. Have lots of memories and good experiences for the short time I lived there, but don't want to prattle on unnecessarily.
I lived there for 18 months. I was one of the first tenants in the building at 60 North Ewing, the high rise in Laclede East/Breakthrough.
What did you want to know? Design of the units, social/cultural aspects, etc. Have lots of memories and good experiences for the short time I lived there, but don't want to prattle on unnecessarily.
I seem to remember an article in the Post some time ago that covered the history of Laclede Town. Perhaps Bonwich could dig it out of the archives?
steveinphila wrote:"anyone know much about Laclede Town beyond the 2 pieces of scrap that can be found online?"
I lived there for 18 months. I was one of the first tenants in the building at 60 North Ewing, the high rise in Laclede East/Breakthrough.
What did you want to know? Design of the units, social/cultural aspects, etc. Have lots of memories and good experiences for the short time I lived there, but don't want to prattle on unnecessarily.
Hi Steve,
I believe I just read a comment made by you in another St. Louis City forum regarding a woman's (now removed from St. Louis) faulty memory of the actual location of Pruitt Igoe... I'm very interested in learning of the design of units, overall design, and to see many photos beyond the surprisingly small amount available on the web. Are you on the former resident Facebook group? I've seen accounts of a few former residents on Commonspace, and I'm about to read the most recognized book on the history of BAG by Benjamin Looker, which reportedly has some vivid descriptions of the Circle Coffeeshop and the pub. Thanks for the replies! We should all really know more about the history of special places and projects in St. Louis history, and what SLU and Harris Stowe have done with the land offers no clues or respect. It's likely this project could have been saved.
One of my professors showed us some old slides he had taken from a helicopter of the area. I'll have to check if he has digitized those yet. Her was in the process of doing all of his slides, but I am not sure how far he has gotten.
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To John W:
No, that was not me in the city forum about Pruitt-Igoe, nor am I a member of Facebook. However, if there is a group of ex Laclede Town residents, I would be very interested in joining.
I no longer have pictures taken during my residency in Laclede Town. Oddly, I do have a rental brochure from Breakthrough West (the brown cedar townhouses between Compton and Channing) that has floor plans, subsidized and market rental rates, and income restrictions.
I've tried twice to make a long detailed posting of some design elements of Laclede Central, East, West and Park and well as recollections of daily living there (all of them good, BTW, I don't have a single bad thing to see about my residency there), but every time I try to post it disappears. I
suppose I'm being timed out. John W. or anyone else intersted can email me at scraigs@verizon.net.
I hope I'm not violating forum rules by posting an email address. You can certainly flag the post of it is.
No, that was not me in the city forum about Pruitt-Igoe, nor am I a member of Facebook. However, if there is a group of ex Laclede Town residents, I would be very interested in joining.
I no longer have pictures taken during my residency in Laclede Town. Oddly, I do have a rental brochure from Breakthrough West (the brown cedar townhouses between Compton and Channing) that has floor plans, subsidized and market rental rates, and income restrictions.
I've tried twice to make a long detailed posting of some design elements of Laclede Central, East, West and Park and well as recollections of daily living there (all of them good, BTW, I don't have a single bad thing to see about my residency there), but every time I try to post it disappears. I
suppose I'm being timed out. John W. or anyone else intersted can email me at scraigs@verizon.net.
I hope I'm not violating forum rules by posting an email address. You can certainly flag the post of it is.
Steve,
I'd love to see a detailed posting (on Laclede Town specifically, as is the purpose of this line-itemized forum for conciseness), and you should contact any of the moderators (administrators) if you are experiencing any difficulties. I'm going to e-mail to you an aerial photo of Breakthrough west (the prefab apartments with cedar panel siding) that dates to its construction.
John w.
I'd love to see a detailed posting (on Laclede Town specifically, as is the purpose of this line-itemized forum for conciseness), and you should contact any of the moderators (administrators) if you are experiencing any difficulties. I'm going to e-mail to you an aerial photo of Breakthrough west (the prefab apartments with cedar panel siding) that dates to its construction.
John w.
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hey steve,
If you're getting timed out, try typing your post in Word and then copy paste here.
If you're getting timed out, try typing your post in Word and then copy paste here.
Stl Public Radio - St. Louis art project on a historic black community a finalist for national arts funding
http://news.stlpublicradio.org/post/st- ... ts-fundingLois Conley of St. Louis grew up in Mill Creek Valley, where everything was in walking distance, and neighbors kept a close eye on each others' children.
“You felt safe; You felt protected. Everybody knew everybody,” Conley said.
I presume they'll post audio soon. Interesting she says the bit about few buildings having indoor plumbing was part of the propaganda.
StLPR - Wednesday: St. Louis Author Vivian Gibson Discusses 'The Last Children of Mill Creek
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StLPR - Wednesday: St. Louis Author Vivian Gibson Discusses 'The Last Children of Mill Creek
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