Hilton Heights in The Ville

Alex Ihnen · PostMar 05, 2007#262007-03-05T16:42+00:00

^ I'm a bit tired of "gentrification" being a bad word. There's good and bad, let just talk about what it really is.

As far as neighborhoods being traditionally one race - I say we clear all of ONSL, rebuilt the earthen mounds and invite anyone of Mississippian Culture descent to set up camp!

Now THAT'S old school urban!

thewayofthearch · PostMar 05, 2007#272007-03-05T17:13+00:00

Way better architecture than St. Chuck!

trent · PostMar 05, 2007#282007-03-05T17:53+00:00

There is just way too many single story homes for my taste.

Alex Ihnen · PostMar 05, 2007#292007-03-05T18:02+00:00

^ granted, but with 12 to a home it's really quite dense.

debaliviere · PostMar 05, 2007#302007-03-05T18:32+00:00

But where will the drive-thru Walgreen's go?

framer · PostMar 06, 2007#312007-03-06T05:18+00:00

And we could float a casino in one of those ponds!

doug · PostMar 06, 2007#322007-03-06T15:56+00:00

It's something about a historically black community, adding single family gated west County style subdivisions? Do we really want this in our City? Can we at least do some New Urbanism?

Urban Village is a good step forward. If we want to look at this from a class standpoint, shouldn't there be a mix of incomes accommodated? What I generally see on the North Side, and some newer developments in the South Side, is homogeneous construction of similar prices and materials. Rather similar to what is occurring in the suburbs. Again, it is possible to have heterogeneous hosing in terms of pricing and styles. Shouldn't this be considered? Do we want classes of people separated if integration works?

Moreover, will these be private streets? Gates keep pedestrians out. Why live in the City when there are walls and fences everywhere? I might as well move to West County.

To me this project seems regressive.

matt drops the h · PostAug 30, 2007#332007-08-30T03:47+00:00

Has anyone seen this rendering:

From here ?

Alex Ihnen · PostAug 30, 2007#342007-08-30T03:52+00:00

^ Nope. the basically look nice, but why don't developers build corner buildings? At least in the City of St. Louis this is what makes a block feel complete. Many of the old corner stores are condos - why not new residential construction. It would make a world of difference - oh wait, it's not in the single-family home design book our city was gifted in 1991.

MattnSTL · PostAug 30, 2007#352007-08-30T04:09+00:00

Decent looking, especially if that really is brick down the sides.

I agree about the corner buildings as well.

matt drops the h · PostAug 30, 2007#362007-08-30T04:18+00:00

I love the spacious porches. I see they have eschewed the Ville shotgun style. And I was totally going to say the same thing. Where is the corner house?

trent · PostAug 30, 2007#372007-08-30T14:59+00:00

There are a lot of neighborhoods that don't use the corner house. While I agree they should be used, I don't think it's necessary in this nabe.

doug · PostAug 30, 2007#382007-08-30T17:04+00:00

Too much of a setback.

matt drops the h · PostAug 30, 2007#392007-08-30T22:07+00:00

I think the scale looks right for the setback. These look like large structures. And I love the different colors. That's so lacking with most of St. Louis infill.

debaliviere · PostAug 31, 2007#402007-08-31T13:16+00:00

I don't mind the front setback so much as the excessive side yard on the corner house.

trent · PostAug 31, 2007#412007-08-31T15:07+00:00

I really like the sky.

Alex Ihnen · PostAug 31, 2007#422007-08-31T19:00+00:00

^ Me too, kind of reminds of a work by the master of light . . .

debaliviere · PostMay 20, 2008#432008-05-20T15:48+00:00

Dead:

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