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PostJul 23, 2019#677

I don't mind the spiderweb thing but the red brick is bugging me.  I think its the clash between the brick pattern and the spiderweb.

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PostJul 23, 2019#678

^It's gonna be covered with plants:

"The project’s landscape architect, dLandstudio, Inc., in collaboration with Scott Woodbury, director of Shaw Nature Reserve (part of Missouri Botanical Garden), have designed the sculptural garden to flourish year-round, with native Missouri plants chosen specifically to survive St. Louis’ hot summers and harsh winters."

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PostJul 24, 2019#680

Swiped from STL From Above:


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PostJul 24, 2019#681

framer wrote:Swiped from STL From Above:
Love the Midtown skyline.

If all goes well, that parking lot in the bottom right will disappear. Maybe not this cycle, but eventually. 

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PostJul 24, 2019#682

The Honey Bears mural is the latest commission by The Gateway Foundation. 

https://keeparthappening.org/who-we-are ... oney-bears

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PostJul 25, 2019#683

^^ Chris, is the parking lot above part of Lawrence Group plan for phased infill.   Trying to get my bearings straight and if correct, anyone heard any rumblings from them on their Mid-town plans?  Got the impression that all their efforts have gone into Foundry as of late which makes sense, a big project with a lot of components to make it happen.

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PostJul 25, 2019#684

dredger wrote:^^ Chris, is the parking lot above part of Lawrence Group plan for phased infill.   Trying to get my bearings straight and if correct, anyone heard any rumblings from them on their Mid-town plans?  Got the impression that all their efforts have gone into Foundry as of late which makes sense, a big project with a lot of components to make it happen.
It’s apart of a potential project that I am working on with others. It was once part of Lawrence Group’s master plan, but I think they went all in on Angad and City Foundry. They seem to be positioning their developments to attract people first and reduce the amount of vacant space before going for Infill.

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PostAug 15, 2019#685

Anyone have a back story to the story?  or simply a mutual change for Grand Center or for the President/CEO or for both?   Going to Chris comments,  it will be interesting to know who might be behind the next potential project as most of the developers seem to have their hands full across the city/central corridor but not necessarily in Grand Center itself which is understandable with the current momentum all over the place. 

https://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/new ... s_headline

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PostJan 19, 2020#686

Noted work being done on the University Club apartments the other day.
Don't recall any announcements though.
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PostFeb 29, 2020#687

This building at 3868 Washington was sold recently. Anyone know who bought it or what plans they may have?


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PostMar 01, 2020#688

^ permit issued for interior demo with a multi-family new use  but I don't know any details.

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PostMar 01, 2020#689

The building is owned by Stephen and Amy Levin. They own Helix Realty, which owns some other apartment buildings in St. Louis including the one at the Northwest corner of Union and Delmar. I don't know how many apartments they intend pon putting into this building but total building permits applied for and issued total $515,000.

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PostMar 01, 2020#690

Weird. Such an unlikely candidate for residential. The building is long, wide and flat; not much opportunity for good views from the units. 

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PostMar 02, 2020#691

framer wrote:
Mar 01, 2020
Weird. Such an unlikely candidate for residential. The building is long, wide and flat; not much opportunity for good views from the unit
perfect candidate for another one of these:

Screenshot_2020-03-01 St Louis.jpg (2.39MiB)

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PostMar 02, 2020#692

^Yeah, that'd work, but it would cost quite a bit more than $515,000.  

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PostMar 02, 2020#693

$515K will buy a lot of demo, though. If that's all that they've applied for so far. That might be enough to shore up the walls, knock down the interior, and start digging for a new foundation. Might just be the sitework to get things rolling. And that new-build behind a lower and older facade has been an occasional thing since at least Moonrise now. If that's what this becomes it would be, what, the fourth example in town, more or less? (Counting Moonrise, the above apartment, and Southwest Bank, if you'll grant that.)

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PostMar 02, 2020#694

I think with the Moonrise they built a new building that looked like the old one.

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PostMar 02, 2020#695

quincunx wrote:
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I think with the Moonrise they built a new building that looked like the old one.
My understanding is that they salvaged the facade and rebuilt it. But either way, the precedent is clear enough: new building behind old facade. Which is basically what you see in the other projects as well. The proportions of old and new vary a bit, but all of them involve some of both. So . . . maybe this will continue that trend? We will see, I suppose.

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PostMar 03, 2020#696

For a trip down memory lane...
Vanishing STL - Moonrise Hotel rises in The Loop
The [sic] did salvage all the stonework, and that will be re-incoprorated in the new building. I believe the brick will be new but matching the old.
http://vanishingstl.blogspot.com/2008/0 ... -loop.html

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PostMar 03, 2020#697

^Look, we're talking about an entirely different project. My basic point stands: Moonrise was an early local example of a trend placing contemporary architecture behind historic facades in order to blend them into an existing streetscape. I don't even think you're honestly trying to dispute that. I think you just want to be right that they "tore down the old building and built new." Okay, fine. They tore down the old building and built new . . . incorporating some meaningful design elements of the old building in what would be perhaps the first local instance of a trend that will hopefully include the building we're discussing. Maybe. Can we all move forward now and quit waving our architectural genitals at one another? It's really not attractive.

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PostMar 03, 2020#698

I wouldn't want someone to mistakenly say that the Moonrise was a new build behind a preserved portion of a building when it's actually a replication. Winding you up was some icing on the cake, lol :D

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PostMar 03, 2020#699

^If that's what makes you happy then you have my sincere sympathy.

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PostMar 03, 2020#700

^Yeah, the Moonrise reconstructed the facade of the funeral home.... Then again y'all, it's probably a damn great thing that they didn't just put a restaurant in a former mortuary, making me all the more satisfied with the Moonrise Hotel constructed the way it was. After all, nothing says "fine dining ambiance" as remembering how corpses used to be displayed on the wall next to your table as you're working on your free range sea bass. Too many questions from smartass patrons on how fresh tonight's special is, and everyone asking for "another cold one" or "gimme a cocktail, and make it stiff". Endless questions of "ghosts". Quite honestly, it would be inhospitable and in fact disrespectful to its former iteration to just roll out tables and a wet bar into the middle of a funeral home for the sake of historical legacy. Imagine walking into dinner at a new restaurant you don't know, looking around, recognizing the back wall's facade, and remembering clearly how your Uncle Harold was laid out on display under the back left lighting while your mother wept her eyes out over him going too soon, then while reliving this being asked why you're not paying enough attention to your date, or being asked how long it takes to pick an appetizer. Yeah, tearing it down then rebuilding the street front anew? Probably a good idea here. 

Then again, the Moonrise is in the Loop, so let's keep that there maybe. I definitely dig what's possible with making 3868 Washington taller while keeping the streetfront building intact and incorporated into something new. Guess we'll see what develops. 

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