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FPSE and Botanical Garden development

FPSE and Botanical Garden development

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PostSep 18, 2010#1

Was surprised no one picked up on this, 20 million in rehab and new construction-

http://www.stltoday.com/business/articl ... d0f91.html

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PostSep 18, 2010#2

This will be terrific for the area. Haven't really checked in the prior infill mentioned in the article yet, but as long as it is within context this will be great.

Are there any residents that could possibly weigh in on my next comment?

Why not put bars/pubs on some of (a lot) the corners. Since they are starting from scratch, I think there is a great opportunity here to give the area a new dynamic. (Jumping on Chicago again, but something like lincoln park) Bars could be on the end of blocks with dense housing in the middle. I think it would be cool.

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PostSep 20, 2010#3

This sounds great, I like the idea of new "style savvy" construction with "clean lines" to compement the existing homes. And an I-64 interchange at Tower Grove seems positive as well. But, isn't this in Botanical Heights, not FPSE?

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PostSep 20, 2010#4

It's all 17th Ward and often grouped together. The I-64 interchange is in FPSE.

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PostSep 20, 2010#5

Are they getting rid of the Boyle & Vandeventer exits?

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PostSep 20, 2010#6

Nope. Tower Grove will be eastbound exit and westbound entrance and will be connected to the existing Boyle Street exit that will continue to serve westbound exit and eastbound entrance.

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PostSep 20, 2010#7

Love this plan, especially the modern infill. That said, I was talking to a local real estate appraiser this weekend who does not see the plan succeeding, specifically because of the infill. He said that it has been proven time and time again that there isn't much of a market for modern infill in St. Louis. I can really only think of a couple examples, and from what I have observed, "For Sale" signs don't disappear all that quickly. Somebody please prove me wrong, because I would love to see this.

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PostSep 21, 2010#8

I'll save my opinion on real estate appraisers and simply say that modern infill hasn't been attempted in sufficient numbers to know how it will work in St. Louis. There are modern homes in the city of course, but just a few here and there. You can't put one here, one there and judge whether modern infill works or not.

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PostSep 21, 2010#9

Anyone have any renderings of what they propose?

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PostSep 21, 2010#10

iceburg wrote:Love this plan, especially the modern infill. That said, I was talking to a local real estate appraiser this weekend who does not see the plan succeeding, specifically because of the infill. He said that it has been proven time and time again that there isn't much of a market for modern infill in St. Louis. I can really only think of a couple examples, and from what I have observed, "For Sale" signs don't disappear all that quickly. Somebody please prove me wrong, because I would love to see this.
Heh...odd timing. My wife and I were recently talking about building a modern infill home in the next 5-7 years.

If any of you get the magazine Dwell, they have some beautiful examples.

http://www.dwell.com/

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PostSep 21, 2010#11

Framer wrote:Anyone have any renderings of what they propose?
I posted a link to more info awhile ago on another thread but can't find where.... I think the 17th Ward blig is where I originally saw it.

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PostApr 04, 2011#12

My wife and I went and talked to the folks behind this development this past weekend, and I came away very impressed. They are in the process of building a "model" and I believe that they will also be completing a rehab in the near future, and I am excited to see the actual buildings. It is also nice that members of the group will be living in the neighborhood, and therefore have a vested interest in its success.

My wife and I are parents to two young sons and are a looking to stay in the city. This development holds many of the items on my list of "wants", including proximity to quality education choices (City Garden Montessori, Language Immersion Charter, and St. Margaret of Scotland), LEED certification, and distance to work. We just have to decide if we think others will feel the same way. There is a bit of a pioneer feel to it right now, as I remember this street as the "wild west".

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PostAug 05, 2013#13

And the redevelopment keeps on rolling -



this project has already been truly transformative, and I think they are just hitting their stride

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PostNov 15, 2013#14

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crim ... 5e636.html

This is cray. I can understand being a little protective of the neighborhood that you live in (you should be) but this guy is weird and totally against the free will of others (and people who paint fire hydrants I guess).

From the article:

“When this neighborhood was ghetto, I toughed it out,” Scott said. “Now that it’s nice, I want to stay and enjoy it.”

But prosecutors say Scott is “the block bully” who targeted victims who were trying to do good things in the neighborhood. He doesn’t like outsiders coming in and deciding how the neighborhood should be.

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Funny how you could probably find people saying the same things when the North Side was changing years ago ( but those people were racists though I'm sure).

If the new music venue on Manchester plays music that this guys endorses is it ok? If they play music he doesn't like is it bad for the neighborhood?

He needs to remember the de facto motto of New York City in the 1970s. "Mind your own f*cking business".

PostNov 15, 2013#15

I should add that I can certainly understand how one can become agitated toward City Hall however!