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PostMar 28, 2021#26

There's a fundraiser for resorting the fountain. Consider helping out

https://www.gofundme.com/f/historic-fou ... ntain-park

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PostApr 12, 2021#27

quincunx wrote:There's a fundraiser for resorting the fountain. Consider helping out

https://www.gofundme.com/f/historic-fou ... ntain-park
Love that weird fountain. I gave.

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PostJul 24, 2021#28

$400k building permit application submitted for a restaurant at 802 N Kingshighway. Does anyone know what it will be? I'm guessing drive thru fast food.

PostMay 22, 2023#29

^There was a demo permit issued Jan 18, 2023 with the description "Future Dominos."

PostMay 22, 2023#30

The Kingsway Opportunity Zone map has an "11" on the Euclid School, indicating a rehab is planned. I'd wager 9 and 10 mean new homes and rehabbed homes. Not sure about 13 at Page and Taylor. New construction of some sort.

Kingsway Opportunity Zone Map.png (1.26MiB)

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PostNov 08, 2024#32

Seriously though, an $800k grant? And nothing? "building the dream equity management"?

This city is so ridiculously corrupt. STL is really just a microcosm. A city built DIY and fast and then slowly destroyed by the bureaucracy.

This reporter Hawkins is a legit reporter. This is important sh*t that needs exposed. Where the money?

PostNov 08, 2024#33

Expose all of this scam bureaucracy!!!!

It's only the tip of the iceberg.

PostNov 08, 2024#34

I like Fountain Park a lot. I looked into a property 15 years ago. Also love Enright. Problem is, there is too much money to be scammed in the professional victim game and the welfare industrial complex. A trillion dollars wouldn't make people happy or fix it.

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PostNov 08, 2024#35

This is a three-sentence article that leaves me with far more questions than answers.

I'm not going to grab a pitchfork and flaming torch until I know more. 

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PostNov 08, 2024#36

There is a video in the article

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PostNov 08, 2024#37

Oh, maybe my work computer wasn't showing the video. I'll check it out on my phone. 

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PostNov 08, 2024#38

Most of the video is about fears of gentrification from a neighbor - not surprised LeeHarveydipsh*t didn’t point that out.

Nothing in this report suggests any party to this development is failing to perform under the grant.

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PostNov 08, 2024#39

Theses are both LRA buildings
Building the Dream Equity Management LLC
Development: Building the Dream
Neighborhood: Fountain Park
Address: 4919 Maple Ave.; 4948 Maple Ave.
Funding Award: $839,292
Source of Funds: CDBG/HOME
Housing Type: For Sale - Rehab
Units: 2
Total Development Cost: $1,234,292
https://www.stlouis-mo.gov/government/d ... s-2023.cfm

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PostNov 08, 2024#40

JaneJacobsGhost wrote:
Nov 08, 2024
Most of the video is about fears of gentrification from a neighbor - not surprised LeeHarveydipsh*t didn’t point that out.

Nothing in this report suggests any party to this development is failing to perform under the grant.
I mean, ok then. Wait, are you saying this lady would get priced out of the neighborhood if they put in windows at the house across the street and saved it from complete collapse and being an empty lot?

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PostNov 08, 2024#41

I’m saying you misrepresented the story because you’re a hack

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PostMay 28, 2025#42

Frustrating that they are writing off the building .

KSDK - Historic church collapse prompts bold rebuilding vision in St. Louis

https://www.ksdk.com/article/news/local ... 133c6e49b3

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PostMay 29, 2025#43

Probably a lot cheaper to tear down and rebuild than to fix the complicated and historic church. Doesn't bode well for the other historic churches that were damaged, especially those without owners or with dwindling congregations

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PostMay 29, 2025#44

I really don't want to hear, "It's too expensive." There's plenty of money. We rebuild Florida every freaking year.

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PostMay 29, 2025#45

quincunx wrote:
May 29, 2025
I really don't want to hear, "It's too expensive." There's plenty of money. We rebuild Florida every freaking year.
Errr...Thing is...not really comparable. The way they build stuff in Florida and what our historic infrastructure is made from...vastly different. In Florida, buildings are designed to be minimal and cheap. Stucco and cinderblock. I agree, I'd always prefer our historic structures be preserved. But, whole different ballgame with old brick and heavy granite. Florida can afford to rebuild every year because it's slapdash to begin with. 

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PostMay 29, 2025#46

Where would the money come from to fix it? These old and complicated churches require mind boggling amounts of money just to keep maintained, let alone rebuild. They have very limited use cases and even if they are still used by a church, the congregation they serve was likely quite poor even before the tornado made things worse. Even if the neighborhood gentrified, the younger generations simply aren't going to church anymore.

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PostMay 29, 2025#47

Why are we so quick to let government off the hook?
We're incapable of fixing these old building our ancestors had no problem building?
The state could postpone the tax cuts passed this session by a year. There's $300M. I know, they don't want to. Well, if we give up out of the gate they certainly won't. They have plenty of money to subsidize driving and give stadium welfare.
We also have several local billionaires.
There's plenty of money.

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PostMay 29, 2025#48

^Yeah, rebuilding after the most destructive tornado St. Louis has seen in decades should receive ample funding from the government in any kind of functioning society. 

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PostMay 29, 2025#49

Well that is the obvious answer, but unfortunately that is simply not the reality of our federal and state government right now. Even if there ends up being a pot of money available for rebuilding, fixing/rebuilding these old churches would probably not be the most effective use compared to fixing/rebuilding housing. I love living in a city with so many steeples and churches around every corner, I wish I was wrong but many of these will ultimately be doomed.

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PostMay 29, 2025#50

^ I think you're right.  Even building back large brick homes could be questionable, when you could build two or three new homes for the same cost.  It's one thing if a home has full replacement insurance, but most do not and any relief/rebuilding funds could likely be used more efficiently.

It is really unfortunate, but the built landscape of much of the tornado impacted area will likely change permanently.

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