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Fire at the Hyde Park Turnverein

Fire at the Hyde Park Turnverein

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PostJul 04, 2006#1

From the P-D:


Firefighters battle blaze at old athletics complex

By Joel Currier

ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH

07/04/2006



St. Louis firefighters were working early today to put out a three-alarm blaze that engulfed an abandoned athletics complex near the Hyde Park neighborhood.



The fire broke out shortly before 11 p.m. at Turnverein Hall, in the 3600 block of North 20th Street, between Salisbury and Mallinckrodt streets.



Dozens of firefighters used at least seven pieces of equipment to spray water on the flames and extinguish smoke billowing from the three-story brick building.



Witnesses said they saw teenagers shooting fireworks into the boarded-up athletic complex before it caught fire. No information was immediately available from police.



Shelley Dressel, 28, of Hazelwood, grew up in the neighborhood, and said the complex once housed facilities for gymnastics, a bowling alley, basketball and racquetball courts.



Dressel, who was in the neighborhood visiting her mother, said she used to take gymnastics lessons at the facility as a child. "It was like the neighborhood YMCA. There was everything in that building. It was a cool place."



The fire did not appear to be threatening any neighboring houses, but it spread from the north end of the complex to the south, engulfing all three structures on the site.

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PostJul 04, 2006#2

That is really unfortunate, I wonder if the building will be rebuilt or left as is?

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PostJul 04, 2006#3

This is very sad; the Turnverein has long been one of my favorite buildings in that area, and is steeped in history. :-(

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PostJul 05, 2006#4

The building will most likely be left as is. If anything is done, it will be torn down.

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PostJul 05, 2006#5

While the fire is tragic, news reports that proclaim the building a "total" loss are wrong. The 1898 gymnasium section on Mallinckrodt has a steel structure and survived the fire with almost no structural damage.

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PostJul 05, 2006#6

no structural damage meaning that the steel frame is all that's remaining? are the brick shells of the buildings still there? are the other two buildings entirely gone?

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PostJul 05, 2006#7

Vacant properties in Hyde Park and ONSL really need to be stabilized before we lose any more of them - first the Emigrant House, now this. Between high winds and fires, pretty soon there might not be much left to save.

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PostJul 05, 2006#8

By no major structural damage, I mean that the steel skeleton seems stable and the masonry walls remain except for missing sections of their parapet walls. I have not yet been inside of the wreckage, so I can't say for sure what the situation is. But the exterior looks hopeful.



Check out some photos on my website:

http://www.eco-absence.org/stl/turnverein/fire.htm



You'll see that the gym section on the south looks okay.

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PostJul 06, 2006#9

You know, I hate to sound synical, but I think the Turnverine has a date with the wrecking ball. No one wanted to rescue it when it was in "decent" shape, is someone going to do it now, at likely triple the cost?

Oh, I hope I'm wrong...dead wrong...I hope I have to eat my words...but...

I also heard a rumor the other day that some residents want Bethlehem Lutheran torn down and that whole block fitted with new "affordable housing". This is likely what will happen with the Turnverine sight. Yeah, all this fantastic history and....phtttt...who cares?

For crying out loud, this wonderful old neighborhood has been crumbling, rotting and burning away for decades. This is one one St. Louis' greatest old neighborhoods and but for a precious few, it seems, couldn't care less...go figure.

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PostJul 06, 2006#10

A fire on July 4th. Gee, I wonder what caused that...

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PostJul 07, 2006#11

thank you for the link to the pictures. i'll have to go up there myself but god the photographs alone are some of the most depressing things i've seen in awhile.