Does St. Louis have a five star hotel? i know im being random and off topic, but does it? because if not someone should build one.
I believe the Ritz was a 5 star hotel at one point...
I think the Westin and Renaissance are 4 star, als the Hyatt at Union Station...
the Four Seasons at te4h Pinnacle Casino is supposed to be built to 5 star standards, but youc an't just be a 5 star hotel, it takes a few years
I think the Westin and Renaissance are 4 star, als the Hyatt at Union Station...
the Four Seasons at te4h Pinnacle Casino is supposed to be built to 5 star standards, but youc an't just be a 5 star hotel, it takes a few years
The Four Seasons / Pinnacle is to be five star.
The Ritz Carlton is Five Star.
There are many 4 star including Westin, Chase Park Plaza and Renaissance Grand to name a few.
The Ritz Carlton is Five Star.
There are many 4 star including Westin, Chase Park Plaza and Renaissance Grand to name a few.
The Ritz is NOT a 5 star and never was. There aren't many 5 stars in the US. I think Chicago has fewer than 3.
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From the St. Louis Commerce Magazine.....
Here is a link to a list of all the four and five star hotels in the country for 2006
http://www.hotel-online.com/News/PR2005 ... Stars.html
The Ritz-Carlton, St. Louis, received the 2006 Mobil Four-Star Award for the second consecutive year from the Mobil Travel Guide, developer of the Mobil star rating program for lodgings, spas and restaurants. The award is presented to hotels that demonstrate an ongoing commitment to superlative service and hospitality while providing luxurious accommodations. The Ritz-Carlton, St. Louis, is the only four-star hotel in Missouri.
Here is a link to a list of all the four and five star hotels in the country for 2006
http://www.hotel-online.com/News/PR2005 ... Stars.html
AAA also releases diamond ratings for hotels based on similar criteria as the Mobil Travel Guide - doing actual investigative work by sending real people to research the hotels. Most of the internet sites rely on user ratings. St Louis has four 4 Diamond hotels and no 5 diamond hotels.
Chase Park Plaza
The Ritz-Carlton, St. Louis
Westin St. Louis
Hyatt Regency St. Louis At Union Station
The AAA ratings are updated every 12 months while the Mobile Travel Guide ratings are updated every 18 months
Chase Park Plaza
The Ritz-Carlton, St. Louis
Westin St. Louis
Hyatt Regency St. Louis At Union Station
The AAA ratings are updated every 12 months while the Mobile Travel Guide ratings are updated every 18 months
Not sure why everyone keeps calling the hotel at the Pinnacle Casino a Four Seasons. There are barely a dozen urban Four Seasons hotels in the country. Pinnacle may have dangled that name to butter up the Mayor's office, but I have yet to see any confirmation that that is what the property will be. If a contract had been signed, you can be sure Four Season's name would be all over Pinnacle's website. I'm sure it will be a decent hotel, but my money would be on something along the lines of a Crowne Plaza, Hyatt or Omni. MAYBE a Sofitel, but even that is a stretch. I really doubt it is going to be a 5 star hotel. How many 5 star chains are going to want to be above a casino (outside of Vegas),
Pinnacle may not be a Four Seasons, really? Just watch it be topped off with a Ramada Inn sign. LOL.
mcarril wrote:AAA also releases diamond ratings for hotels based on similar criteria as the Mobil Travel Guide - doing actual investigative work by sending real people to research the hotels. Most of the internet sites rely on user ratings. St Louis has four 4 Diamond hotels and no 5 diamond hotels.
Chase Park Plaza
The Ritz-Carlton, St. Louis
Westin St. Louis
Hyatt Regency St. Louis At Union Station
The AAA ratings are updated every 12 months while the Mobile Travel Guide ratings are updated every 18 months
The Renaissance St. Louis Suites Hotel and the Renaissance Grand Hotel also have been given the AAA 4 Diamond rating according to the 2006 AAA Missouri Tourbook.
Thank you for the clarification.
I have contacted Pinnacle on the flagship of the new property. My response reads:
"Our 200-room Four Seasons hotel and spa is scheduled for completion in St. Louis in 2007. It will be connected to the new casino on the historic Laclede's Landing via an elevated pedestrian walkway."
Their website reads:
"Five star luxury hotel with 200 guestrooms and adjoining luxury spa
The project features two hotels, including a five-star property and an Embassy Suites. The five-star hotel will include 200 rooms, a spa, two fine restaurants and a magnificent pool and entertainment area off the hotel lobby overlooking the Gateway Arch. At night, the hotel tower will light up in an arc reminiscent of the Arch from the side of the tower and across the top, creating a signature mark for the property and a stunning new addition to the city skyline."
http://www.pinnaclestlouis.com/
I have contacted Pinnacle on the flagship of the new property. My response reads:
"Our 200-room Four Seasons hotel and spa is scheduled for completion in St. Louis in 2007. It will be connected to the new casino on the historic Laclede's Landing via an elevated pedestrian walkway."
Their website reads:
"Five star luxury hotel with 200 guestrooms and adjoining luxury spa
The project features two hotels, including a five-star property and an Embassy Suites. The five-star hotel will include 200 rooms, a spa, two fine restaurants and a magnificent pool and entertainment area off the hotel lobby overlooking the Gateway Arch. At night, the hotel tower will light up in an arc reminiscent of the Arch from the side of the tower and across the top, creating a signature mark for the property and a stunning new addition to the city skyline."
http://www.pinnaclestlouis.com/
What is the classification for a "Five Star Hotel"?
Amenties? Room pricing?
What is the difference between Five Star and Four Star?
So, I'm guessing.....
Motel 6, Howard Johnson, Travelodge is a One Star
Days Inn, Fairfield Inn, Comfort Inn, Hampton Inn is a Two Star
Courtyard at Marriot, Hilton, Marriot, Radisson, Ramada are Three Star
Embassy Suites, Doubletree, Renaissance, Hyatt, Inter-Continental are Four Stars
Amenties? Room pricing?
What is the difference between Five Star and Four Star?
So, I'm guessing.....
Motel 6, Howard Johnson, Travelodge is a One Star
Days Inn, Fairfield Inn, Comfort Inn, Hampton Inn is a Two Star
Courtyard at Marriot, Hilton, Marriot, Radisson, Ramada are Three Star
Embassy Suites, Doubletree, Renaissance, Hyatt, Inter-Continental are Four Stars
^The ratings are very subjective, so don't expect any definitive answer as to what the difference is between 4 and 5 stars. It's just like restaurant ratings, it has to do with service and quality, all of the expected basics must be performed perfectly and it really must exceed expectations in some way. A 5 star restaurant is one that really stands out nationally and internationally, just like a 5 star hotel. There are only a few dozen in the U.S.
There are only a handful of chains that are usually 5-star: Swissotel, Ritz, Pennisula, Shangi-La, Four Seasons, etc., but even these chains don't always rate 5 stars, e.g. the Ritz here. And, sometimes a Marriott, Hilton or Omni can be a 5 star, it just depends...
There are only a handful of chains that are usually 5-star: Swissotel, Ritz, Pennisula, Shangi-La, Four Seasons, etc., but even these chains don't always rate 5 stars, e.g. the Ritz here. And, sometimes a Marriott, Hilton or Omni can be a 5 star, it just depends...
It also takes time to become a 5 star/5 diamond hotel... the Four Seasons may eventually become that, but you ahve to be established for a certain amount of time before you are given a 5th star, it is one of the criteria.
it is very subjective, but if you look at the criteria, its pretty easy to figure out...
the consistant 5 star hotels seem to be four seasons, J.W. Marriott, St. Regis, Sofitel
every time a hotel is rated, they are given a list of criteria in which they need to improve to gain another star/diamond. An example of this is that last year the Sheraton City Center wasa 3 star hotel...they have been trying to get a 4th star, so they added wet bars to every room as that was one criteria that they were short...so next time they can pitch that.
All I can say a bout a 5 star hotel is that it may not make sense until you stay in one...then you really understand what makes a hotel 5 stars
it is very subjective, but if you look at the criteria, its pretty easy to figure out...
the consistant 5 star hotels seem to be four seasons, J.W. Marriott, St. Regis, Sofitel
every time a hotel is rated, they are given a list of criteria in which they need to improve to gain another star/diamond. An example of this is that last year the Sheraton City Center wasa 3 star hotel...they have been trying to get a 4th star, so they added wet bars to every room as that was one criteria that they were short...so next time they can pitch that.
All I can say a bout a 5 star hotel is that it may not make sense until you stay in one...then you really understand what makes a hotel 5 stars
That's what I don't get: How can anyone claim a Hotel is going to be 5-star before its even built?
^The same way they can claim it is going to be a Four Seasons, or that they can claim that the casino will benefit Laclede's Landing, or that the design of the hotel and casino is a "Frank Lloyd Wright-inspired design". They just do it, with no basis in reality, expecting that people here won't ask too many questions...
^ tough crowd. I'm sure there's very specific industry standards that must be met and I'm sure they will be ...
I just checked the Exxon Mobil website (that's who gives out the official stars) and not a single hotel in St. Louis even scored 4 stars. That said, the Ritz wasn't listed at all so maybe it hasn't been reviewed (or they don't want to be), but the Ritz seems to score well in other places, 5 stars in NY, Palm Beach, Naples, Chicago and San Francisco. And as posted earlier, in the US, Mobil only lists 32 hotels as receiving 5 stars on their website. The Chase was listed as three stars as did several of the other hotels mentioned here. I wonder who else is giving out stars to explain the disparity. Maybe that someone is on the take, selling stars.
http://mobiltravelguide.howstuffworks.c ... hannel.htm
And on another note, I don't think it's that absurd to claim you are going to be a 5 star hotel before you even build it. I mean you knew the Wynn was going to be a 5 star property the moment he put it on a napkin. Now, whether they build what they say they are going to build, is another story.
And speaking of other stories--can we talk about who is going to stay at a five star hotel in St. Louis, each star adds $$$$ to the price of the room. Are the other premium hotels in St. Louis like the Ritz and the Chase, doing that well. I visit St. Louis a lot and those hotels don't seem to be that busy expect on graduation weekends and special things like that.
http://mobiltravelguide.howstuffworks.c ... hannel.htm
And on another note, I don't think it's that absurd to claim you are going to be a 5 star hotel before you even build it. I mean you knew the Wynn was going to be a 5 star property the moment he put it on a napkin. Now, whether they build what they say they are going to build, is another story.
And speaking of other stories--can we talk about who is going to stay at a five star hotel in St. Louis, each star adds $$$$ to the price of the room. Are the other premium hotels in St. Louis like the Ritz and the Chase, doing that well. I visit St. Louis a lot and those hotels don't seem to be that busy expect on graduation weekends and special things like that.
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I just checked the Exxon Mobil website (that's who gives out the official stars) and not a single hotel in St. Louis even scored 4 stars. That said, the Ritz wasn't listed at all so maybe it hasn't been reviewed
I just looked and the Ritz showed up as 4 stars, not sure what you were looking at.
http://mobiltravelguide.howstuffworks.c ... -hotel.htm
^ And if you go to kayak.com, which is the hotel search link that the Mobil Travel Guide provides, the Ritz is listed as 5 stars. 
So, who the hell knows...
http://www.kayak.com/h/hotel/14784
FYI, AOL hotel guide calls the Ritz, "the only 4 star, 4 diamond hotel in St. Louis", which is also kind of funny, considering it is not even in St. Louis.
So, who the hell knows...http://www.kayak.com/h/hotel/14784
FYI, AOL hotel guide calls the Ritz, "the only 4 star, 4 diamond hotel in St. Louis", which is also kind of funny, considering it is not even in St. Louis.
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