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Delor between Morganford and Ridgewood

Delor between Morganford and Ridgewood

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PostFeb 04, 2010#1

Drove this way yesterday for the first time in quite awhile. For some crazy reason the street has been significantly widened. The trees normally planted in the grassy strip between the sidewalk and the street are in little concrete islands separated by the gutter from sidewalk.
Google streetview shows just how wide this stretch of Delor was already.

Delor streetview prior to widening.


I failed to take pics.

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PostFeb 04, 2010#2

It was widened just enough to keep passing cars from sideswiping parked cars, which was a big problem. I think there may be a thread floating around here somewhere.

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PostFeb 04, 2010#3

MattnSTL wrote:It was widened just enough to keep passing cars from sideswiping parked cars, which was a big problem. I think there may be a thread floating around here somewhere.
Seems like a crazy and expensive solution to a problem that has some other root cause. I'm not arguing whether you are correct or not as to the reason but look at the streetview here and tell me that it makes sense.

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PostFeb 11, 2010#4

lukethedrifter wrote:
MattnSTL wrote:It was widened just enough to keep passing cars from sideswiping parked cars, which was a big problem. I think there may be a thread floating around here somewhere.
Seems like a crazy and expensive solution to a problem that has some other root cause. I'm not arguing whether you are correct or not as to the reason but look at the streetview here and tell me that it makes sense.
I'm not sure what you're trying to show with that image. Clearly, the street wasn't wide enough to accommodate two cars passing each other with cars parked on either side. That's fine for side streets. My own street is like that. But Delor was just too narrow to handle its (perhaps unplanned) status as a throughway between Kingshighway and Morganford. That also made it a tricky and dangerous street to cross on foot, too.

The recent widening seems like a pretty low-impact solution to me. All that was lost was that grassy strip. What strikes you as "crazy" about it?

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PostFeb 11, 2010#5

The curbs look old - what Delor actually widened? If so, my problem would be that the tree strip may be too narrow to plant trees - the city requires that it be x inches wide.

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PostFeb 11, 2010#6

The street view is from before it was widened by about a foot on each side. The tree lawn has been completely eliminated and there are bump outs that contain trees and fire hydrants.

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PostFeb 19, 2010#8

Uggh, I can't stand Idiot Davis. "You Paid For It" was worth watching about 10 years ago, but he hasn't had a good story in a long time.

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PostFeb 19, 2010#9

And my response:
WAIT! More than $809,955 for repaving a street and $3,000 for trees and the whole freaking report is about the trees!?!?!?! Why not focus on the wasted money for widening the street!??! Our local press is incredibly incompetent. I would gladly pay $3,000 for more trees. In fact, think of how many trees the city could buy and plant with the $806,955 spent on the street itself. And sure, the street trees will need maintenance. Why is THAT news? We're really going to ambush a alderman and twist his arm until he concedes that tree roots may grow? What a waste.
Just love the a**holes who say things like "trees are a hazard". You know what STREETS are a hazard, THAT'S where people get hurt. Trees don't hurt people.

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PostFeb 20, 2010#10

Wow. I could only make it through 30 seconds of Elliot asking the same question over and over. Trees that damage sidewalks are large trees with shallow roots. Me thinks that the designers would be smart enough to plant ornamental trees that won't do that sort of damage.