yeah, yeah - and if you guys ever compiled an all time greatest typos section I'm sure I would figure prominantly as well.....
who is the Michael Shermer guy?
who is the Michael Shermer guy?
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I really enjoy some of this crazy stuff, but maybe there should just be a non-urban or 'other' issues section to toss all this off-topic stuff in. I don't want it to be deleted, but I don't want it to clog up real information . . .
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If the PO-LICE ever are looking for Selma Hayak's stalker they can
always refer to this Mark of U. City post to find a person of interest.
always refer to this Mark of U. City post to find a person of interest.
The demolition for the Solae headquarters is almost complete, two of the structures are completely gone, and the one on the corner should be fully down within days.
http://www.clayco.oxblue.com/cam6
http://www.clayco.oxblue.com/cam6
Atlas wrote:What's amazing to me is that no one has stopped to educate themselves on the matter. I was at a party over the weekend and a few people who are religious fundamentalists were talking about the issue and asking each other questions like, "Would a clone be considered human?" I'm laughing to myself at the stupidity of their questions. I've also had conversations with people who said they are voting no because their church simply told them to. As Tysalpa said, do you really think that the issue is about growing human's and one day we'll see ourselves hanging out at a bar somewhere? This is about stem cell research, finding cures using a very promising technology. Let's move past the 16th century witch hunt mentality and look at the issue for what it is. Once upon a time it was considered wrong and immoral to dissect the human body
Once upon a time it was considered right and moral by the scientific community to sterilize the retarded and lobotomize the mentally ill. So, what is your point?
markofucity wrote:and yes - I see the point made above. It is a debate about when an entity becomes fully human, with all the legal protections that involves. That's the only real issue that underlies this issue and abortion. Problem is that I don;t beleive anyone can definatively answer that question. Its always going to be a matter of philisophic conjectrure. Society DOES have to make a choice though. What always gets me is that it seems as if we have ... abortion IS legal. It makes no sense to draw the "when does human life begin" line at different places on diffrent issues. If stem cell research cannot proceed because an embryo (or blastocyte) is a human being - then abortion cannot be legal when the pregnancy is voluntary and presents no undue threat to the mother. You can't have it BOTH ways. I'm not saying that the topic shouldn;t be debated - but the law should be consistent.
The law is already inconsistent. In many states, if I run over a pregnant woman, and both she and the child die, I will be charged with two counts of homicide, or manslaughter, depending on the circumstances. Yet, if the mother decides to terminate the pregnancy, well then that is perfectly acceptable. In one case the child is considered a human life with rights, in the other case he or she is not. Interesting, no?
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i agree. that is inconsistent - and that troubles me as well.
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The site for the new Solae headquarters has now been cleared. I hope the new building moves along quickly. Looking at the drawings again I'm pretty excited. I think the CWE will continue to have some beautiful historic buildings, but a modern research center is a welcome addition.
Ihnen wrote:The site for the new Solae headquarters has now been cleared. I hope the new building moves along quickly. Looking at the drawings again I'm pretty excited. I think the CWE will continue to have some beautiful historic buildings, but a modern research center is a welcome addition.
So is that's what's going between the Cortex building and the Metrolink line?
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It is inside the Cortex West Redevelopment zone, and directly south of the Cortex 1 incubator on Forest park Parkway.
I really like the looks of this building even with the loading dock showing, but I wish there were more renderings of other elevations. It looks like the structure meets the streets, but it's really not that clear as for what I can see. Still, I'm excited about this.
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more pics from the signs at the site (I suppose one could figure out the orientation of the building from where the signs are posted - assuming the three were posted where they were for a purpose. But I didn't):
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Yes, thanks for posting those pix, Grover. I really like the building...glad I'm not seeing any surface parking lots, although the last photo shows perhaps a bit too much grass for an urban setting. Maybe a fountain here surrounded by a little plaza might be more fitting (...?).
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^ Agreed - the green space looks out of place, but I don't know about a plaza/fountain either. I haven't seen a site plan for the whole of CORTEX, if there is one, but I hope there's something of a campus in mind - maybe with a couple retail slots centrally located. Currently, workers can't easily walk to eat (OK -maybe that's a stretch, as Bread Co. and Euclid aren't that far). I really hope there's a focus for the area though - a plaza would be great if it were near a signature building. I say preserve the building below (it's 1/2 block from a possible METRO stop at Sarah) and centrally located within CORTEX) and put in a cafe/etc., then orient development towards this. I know there will be some surface lots and garages, but these should be placed at the edges. Garages should back up against existing BJC/Wash U and possibly close to Duncan/Vandeventer where it may be able to serve future retail along FPP (Target, etc.?).
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Grover,
You have been phenomenal lately in adding to the forum, thanks!
You have been phenomenal lately in adding to the forum, thanks!
Grover, I love that old building. It was a site office for one of the rail companies or something correct? So interesting to drive by and see it in the midst of the more "industrial" big buildings.
Grover wrote:^ Agreed - the green space looks out of place, but I don't know about a plaza/fountain either. I haven't seen a site plan for the whole of CORTEX, if there is one, but I hope there's something of a campus in mind - maybe with a couple retail slots centrally located. Currently, workers can't easily walk to eat (OK -maybe that's a stretch, as Bread Co. and Euclid aren't that far). I really hope there's a focus for the area though - a plaza would be great if it were near a signature building. I say preserve the building below (it's 1/2 block from a possible METRO stop at Sarah) and centrally located within CORTEX) and put in a cafe/etc., then orient development towards this. I know there will be some surface lots and garages, but these should be placed at the edges. Garages should back up against existing BJC/Wash U and possibly close to Duncan/Vandeventer where it may be able to serve future retail along FPP (Target, etc.?).
That brick building with the animal heads is awsome! It's GOT TO be saved!
I can't for the life of me figure out that new Solae building. Is it "U" shaped, or is that glass building on the left of the middle rendering actually the existing CORTEX building? Anyone have a site plan that shows both of these buildings and how they relate to each other?
I can't for the life of me figure out that new Solae building. Is it "U" shaped, or is that glass building on the left of the middle rendering actually the existing CORTEX building? Anyone have a site plan that shows both of these buildings and how they relate to each other?
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I have to admit that the third view has me baffled. However, from the first to the second is like walking from the right side of the structure to the left. The most prominent corner in the second is the distant left corner in the first.
Maybe something like this can be done to the grain elevator.
http://www.nationaltrust.org/Magazine/a ... 113006.htm
http://www.nationaltrust.org/Magazine/a ... 113006.htm
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Yes indeed. I'll be talking about this to anyone and everyone who will listen until it's either torn down or converted.
Talk about a true Transportation Oriented Development (TOD). A Sarah METRO stop would be at your front door and if retail finds its way to FPP/Spring, even better. It's very close to the Ford Motor Lofts on FPP and there is a lot of space for new development. Looking at a map the site is isolated from other residential, but the views and transportation would be fantastic. I doubt anything of more than six stories will be build within CORTEX due to the land area involved.
All I need is someone who can secure a loan for $200M, someone with experience bringing an historic renovation and new construction of this size to fruition, someone with the vision to make sure it lives up to its promise, let's see . . . a receptionist, a realtor - what am I leaving out? (Oh, a couple barrista's to serve up tasty treats in my new cafe in THIS building across the street! (Please PM all CV's.)
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Talk about a true Transportation Oriented Development (TOD). A Sarah METRO stop would be at your front door and if retail finds its way to FPP/Spring, even better. It's very close to the Ford Motor Lofts on FPP and there is a lot of space for new development. Looking at a map the site is isolated from other residential, but the views and transportation would be fantastic. I doubt anything of more than six stories will be build within CORTEX due to the land area involved.
All I need is someone who can secure a loan for $200M, someone with experience bringing an historic renovation and new construction of this size to fruition, someone with the vision to make sure it lives up to its promise, let's see . . . a receptionist, a realtor - what am I leaving out? (Oh, a couple barrista's to serve up tasty treats in my new cafe in THIS building across the street! (Please PM all CV's.)