We all have been doing really good at our jobs.quincunx wrote: ↑8:44 AM - Apr 24How does it go up $42M, 20% in one year?
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The $208 was after it paid out alot of refunds. There were refunds in 2024 too but not as much. I would say the baselines without refunds is about $227-230 starting in 2023
Taxable sales across the CIDs
The landing will stay above $2m per Q for entire 2026. I have some preliminary data for Q1 2026 from a few people down there
The landing will stay above $2m per Q for entire 2026. I have some preliminary data for Q1 2026 from a few people down there
always enjoy seeing this data. What's you take on why BPV was up so much 24 to 25?dbInSouthCity wrote: ↑1:55 PM - Apr 24Taxable sales across the CIDs
The landing will stay above $2m per Q for entire 2026. I have some preliminary data for Q1 2026 from a few people down there
$13M in pizza alone? I mean, Katie's is good, but not $13M good. LOLGoHarvOrGoHome wrote: ↑2:37 PM - Apr 24I assume it's mostly the opening of Katie's Pizza
I certainly don't have a better reason why BPV was up $13M those years but *any* restaurant in *any* city doing $10M in business is exceedingly rare and I am skeptical that Katie's did that. No matter, I fully believe Katie's is the main driver of most of that $13M delta. great to see the YOY bump and I hope we see 2026 end up in a good spot.dbInSouthCity wrote: ↑3:30 PM - Apr 24Katie’s BPV does around $10m a year
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When Busch is sold out, Katie’s does about $70,000 during that day. Now Busch hasn’t been sold out a lot lately but it doesn’t change the dynamic much. The window for Katie’s on a night game is still 5-7pm and it’s capacity and throughput in the same if it’s 45,000 at Busch or 25,000 and its capacity is much lower than that 25,000 number, while it will definitely do less biz but it’s not as of a fall off from 45,000 person game as you would expectsoulardx wrote: ↑3:58 PM - Apr 24I certainly don't have a better reason why BPV was up $13M those years but *any* restaurant in *any* city doing $10M in business is exceedingly rare and I am skeptical that Katie's did that. No matter, I fully believe Katie's is the main driver of most of that $13M delta. great to see the YOY bump and I hope we see 2026 end up in a good spot.dbInSouthCity wrote: ↑3:30 PM - Apr 24Katie’s BPV does around $10m a year
So, in the perfect scenario of 45K at all Cards home games in 2025, $70,000 x 81 home dates = $5.67M. where's the other $4.33M? All the fans from the Post Malone and Jelly Roll concert? I could see it, they *look* like they like pizza.dbInSouthCity wrote: ↑4:11 PM - Apr 24When Busch is sold out, Katie’s does about $70,000 during that day. Now Busch hasn’t been sold out a lot lately but it doesn’t change the dynamic much. The window for Katie’s on a night game is still 5-7pm and it’s capacity and throughput in the same if it’s 45,000 at Busch or 25,000 and its capacity is much lower than that 25,000 number, while it will definitely do less biz but it’s not as of a fall off from 45,000 person game as you would expectsoulardx wrote: ↑3:58 PM - Apr 24I certainly don't have a better reason why BPV was up $13M those years but *any* restaurant in *any* city doing $10M in business is exceedingly rare and I am skeptical that Katie's did that. No matter, I fully believe Katie's is the main driver of most of that $13M delta. great to see the YOY bump and I hope we see 2026 end up in a good spot.dbInSouthCity wrote: ↑3:30 PM - Apr 24Katie’s BPV does around $10m a year
DB, as downtown's PR guy who love throwing around data (that I too enjoy), I respectfully ask that you look even more closely at that $13M. Katie's and what?
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There are other 284 days in a year…..there was no cardinals in town Monday to yesterday but there was 20,000 people for a convention and probably another 5,000 for work travel, 11,000 residents, 59,000 workers and believe it or not people from Lafayette sq and soulard and metro east do come to BPV on a random day to get dinnersoulardx wrote: ↑4:16 PM - Apr 24So, in the perfect scenario of 45K at all Cards home games in 2025, $70,000 x 81 home dates = $5.67M. where's the other $4.33M? All the fans from the Post Malone and Jelly Roll concert? I could see it, they *look* like they like pizza.dbInSouthCity wrote: ↑4:11 PM - Apr 24When Busch is sold out, Katie’s does about $70,000 during that day. Now Busch hasn’t been sold out a lot lately but it doesn’t change the dynamic much. The window for Katie’s on a night game is still 5-7pm and it’s capacity and throughput in the same if it’s 45,000 at Busch or 25,000 and its capacity is much lower than that 25,000 number, while it will definitely do less biz but it’s not as of a fall off from 45,000 person game as you would expectsoulardx wrote: ↑3:58 PM - Apr 24I certainly don't have a better reason why BPV was up $13M those years but *any* restaurant in *any* city doing $10M in business is exceedingly rare and I am skeptical that Katie's did that. No matter, I fully believe Katie's is the main driver of most of that $13M delta. great to see the YOY bump and I hope we see 2026 end up in a good spot.
DB, as downtown's PR guy who love throwing around data (that I too enjoy), I respectfully ask that you look even more closely at that $13M. Katie's and what?
BPV has also leaned heavily into small concerts and its club nightlife with Ava
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To note; Union station was at about $100m revenue in 2025 but sales tax was only applicable to $79mdbInSouthCity wrote: ↑1:55 PM - Apr 24Taxable sales across the CIDs
The landing will stay above $2m per Q for entire 2026. I have some preliminary data for Q1 2026 from a few people down there
https://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/new ... -city.html
Police Board of Commissioners is suing the city, asking a court to compel the city to give the board an "adjusted allocation" of $67.6 million, which they say the city is underpaying the department.
The petition alleges the city intentionally withheld the Rams principal and unreserved general fund balances from calculations tied to the police department’s minimum allocation and says the city’s actions left “tens of millions of dollars” unavailable for police operations.
"Since 2022, the mayor and Board of Aldermen have discussed multiple plans to spend Rams settlement principal. Local press have reported that respondents are now discussing another new plan to spend the Rams settlement," the lawsuit states. "Specifically, the city intends to divert this money without consideration of its statutorily required use — public safety — to fund the various desires of the current elected officials of the city."
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I'd get banned if I said what would be morally justifiable to be done to the businesses owned by these thugs pretending to be cops. I'd be right, but I'd be banned.
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Police Board of Commissioners is suing the city, asking a court to compel the city to give the board an "adjusted allocation" of $67.6 million, which they say the city is underpaying the department.
The petition alleges the city intentionally withheld the Rams principal and unreserved general fund balances from calculations tied to the police department’s minimum allocation and says the city’s actions left “tens of millions of dollars” unavailable for police operations.
"Since 2022, the mayor and Board of Aldermen have discussed multiple plans to spend Rams settlement principal. Local press have reported that respondents are now discussing another new plan to spend the Rams settlement," the lawsuit states. "Specifically, the city intends to divert this money without consideration of its statutorily required use — public safety — to fund the various desires of the current elected officials of the city."
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I'd get banned if I said what would be morally justifiable to be done to the businesses owned by these thugs pretending to be cops. I'd be right, but I'd be banned.
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https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/cri ... -top-story
Police board is arguing that the city's $154 million in reserves and $230 million in Rams money is legally part of general revenue according to a 1955 Missouri Supreme Court ruling.
Graville pointed to a 1955 Missouri Supreme Court ruling defining general revenue as “all current income of the city, however derived, which is subject to appropriation for general uses.”
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I assume Graville has mental health issues because the Rams money and reserves cannot possibly be defined as "current income."
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Police board is arguing that the city's $154 million in reserves and $230 million in Rams money is legally part of general revenue according to a 1955 Missouri Supreme Court ruling.
Graville pointed to a 1955 Missouri Supreme Court ruling defining general revenue as “all current income of the city, however derived, which is subject to appropriation for general uses.”
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I assume Graville has mental health issues because the Rams money and reserves cannot possibly be defined as "current income."
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