Any word on this? The Cabanne, Machacek and Carondelet branches are slatted for major renovations too but nothing seems to be happening. And SLPS' website doesn't offer any info.
BUMP for Innov8ion, since he mentioned it here in the Lucas Park thread in the Urban Living forum.urbanstlouis wrote:
Any new news regarding this? Are these renderings still acccurate?
TIA,
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^ I'll be planning a meeting soon with the President of the Library Foundation soon. I'll ask him then. The renderings do look beautiful!
Wow just saw these renderings for the first time. My only question is....where is the "stuff" -- books, DVDs, etc? It looks like a big space to heat and cool.
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bprop wrote:Wow just saw these renderings for the first time. My only question is....where is the "stuff" -- books, DVDs, etc?
Inside the library.
I assumed the addition is considered "in the library". So the point of the addition, as pictured, would be what now? Looks like a big empty space with people milling about, looking at nothing in particular. Even on the "inside". Oh, and one lady at a cafe table looking over a menu.
^ It looks like the majority of renderings are of the exterior. Who knows if the plan is even done? Have patience.
innov8ion wrote:^ It looks like the majority of renderings are of the exterior. Who knows if the plan is even done? Have patience.
Not being impatient; it's just that renderings usually highlight the best characteristics, and I'm wondering if the collections will expand or if the addition will provide mostly open space.
^ I think the best description of the renovation are described in a Post-Dispatch article that is no longer available in full, but parts of it are posted here: http://urbanstl.com/viewtopic.php?t=152 ... sc&start=0
Perhaps adding a shower area for the indigenous population which are sorely in need of a hygiene break.
I can't see spending the money down there until some kind of policy is put in place to run these guys and gals out. The 250,000 figger is way understated if you count the hobo's.
The guy the other day was snoring so loud a studious researcher couldn't concentrate.
I can't see spending the money down there until some kind of policy is put in place to run these guys and gals out. The 250,000 figger is way understated if you count the hobo's.
The guy the other day was snoring so loud a studious researcher couldn't concentrate.
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alphalfa wrote:Perhaps adding a shower area for the indigenous population which are sorely in need of a hygiene break.
I can't see spending the money down there until some kind of policy is put in place to run these guys and gals out. The 250,000 figger is way understated if you count the hobo's.
The guy the other day was snoring so loud a studious researcher couldn't concentrate.
Yeah, I don't see why we should have to tolerate that crap.
Why can't we just be the first city to privatize their library system? Private companies are perfectly capable of renting movies and such, can this not translate to paper? I would bet that the books would be in better condition and more readily available as well.
How much are they wasting a year on this?
Solves the homeless problem, too.
How much are they wasting a year on this?
Solves the homeless problem, too.
No thank you. The public's free and open access to millions of books and periodicals should never be taken away.
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the main library has a great selection on good music. they had the whole robert johnson CD collection but I think someone stole it. they were kinda smart. it was the whole box set. it's very disorgagizied.....i was looking for certian things and they might be last or first names....who knows. actually, an employee helped me out alot......i asked for Son House. She actaully was able to tell me they didn't have it. But she found American Anthology of Folk Volume 4.
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Framer wrote:No thank you. The public's free and open access to millions of books and periodicals should never be taken away.
Nor should the public's free and open ability to utilize this resource without having to smell someone from 50 feet away or sit next to someone snoring or get hit up for change on the front steps. That access is threatened today. At least at the Central Library.
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you know it is possible to keep the library free and open to the public while also enforcing rules of decency and respect for others. Privatizing the library is some sort of Ayn Rand fantasy. Roads are free too, but you aren't allowed to break traffic rules. When someone does that do you suggest privatizing them?
southsidepride wrote: Roads are free too, but you aren't allowed to break traffic rules. When someone does that do you suggest privatizing them?
Actually, he does. Bastiat thinks there should be no government at all. Only sweet, sweet capitalism. Because, there'd be no "men with guns" if we were all ruled by RoyalSoft/CitiMorgan/Wal-Agra. And I believe him!
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^ Obviously there are also lots of private roads and access is not impeded (assuming you pay - remember, we pay for public "free" roads as well). Many government services are privatized. I understand the principle of a "public" libraries, but I believe they have in fact become largely only for people without Internet access at home, those looking for a warm place to nap and those who chose to make the effort to rent "free" videos and cd's. I say "free" because it's cheaper for me to pay Blockbuster $5/mo to get two DVD's than it is for me to drive to the library a couple times a month, or buy a bus pass to take me there. Libraries are obsolete in many ways and will be forced to face a turning point in mission soon. I'm not sure privatization is the answer, but why not talk about it? Will libraries be for the poor? What services should they offer?
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southsidepride wrote:you know it is possible to keep the library free and open to the public while also enforcing rules of decency and respect for others.
Of course it is. Why aren't they doing it?
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What? Am I the only one who checks out books anymore? I didn't know I was so obsolete?
southsidepride wrote:What? Am I the only one who checks out books anymore? I didn't know I was so obsolete?
I do too. Don't worry about it. Although I've never denied my obsolescence--I get a kick out of being a living anachronism.
But to steer us back to topic, does this new plan mean the Olive entrance will be closed? I wouldn't be too happy about that.
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steve wrote:southsidepride wrote:What? Am I the only one who checks out books anymore? I didn't know I was so obsolete?
I do too. Don't worry about it. Although I've never denied my obsolescence--I get a kick out of being a living anachronism.
But to steer us back to topic, does this new plan mean the Olive entrance will be closed? I wouldn't be too happy about that.
No. I suspect it will just be moved out 50 ft or so.
Why would the Olive entrance close? The addition is on the Locust side which is considered the "back" entrance.
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Aren’t there issues with disability access from the Olive side? I know wheelchairs can get still in, I just thought it wasn't the most welcoming entry.
bprop wrote:Why would the Olive entrance close? The addition is on the Locust side which is considered the "back" entrance.
Looking at the renderings of the addition, it looks like they're intending it to be the new "main entrance." There is no entrance from the Locust St side at this point. For staffing and security reasons, I'd assume they would close the front. I could be wrong; that's why I asked.