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I've also noticed that Northside has been preparing the rest of that block for a project. They recently demolished a property to the south of the Cass building and appear to be assembling it into the larger parcel to the east.
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^ The only thing I'm aware of in the area is a plan for some kind of grocery.
This Cass Bank project is interesting and I hope it works out.
This Cass Bank project is interesting and I hope it works out.
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Im thrilled to the bones about this project as i really love this building hoping it comes to fruition.
^I think this is great on so many different levels. Historic preservation, veterans assistance, re-energizing a struggling area. I'd lost what little faith I had in the Northside project, but if these are the types of projects we will see I have some hope.
KSDK - 1 dead in fire at vacant former St. Louis Greyhound station
https://www.ksdk.com/article/news/local ... 77cc380a7d
https://www.ksdk.com/article/news/local ... 77cc380a7d
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Sad all around
Looking at google maps, it’s quite evident there was not a good situation at this site
One of the only buildings of note even left along this stretch north of cole, the warehouse complexes are unfortunately already gone. Felt like this was inevitable to lose yet another historic piece of north downtown.
Not sure there is a rougher entrance to a city in the country than Cass & Tucker off I-70
Looking at google maps, it’s quite evident there was not a good situation at this site
One of the only buildings of note even left along this stretch north of cole, the warehouse complexes are unfortunately already gone. Felt like this was inevitable to lose yet another historic piece of north downtown.
Not sure there is a rougher entrance to a city in the country than Cass & Tucker off I-70
Amazing what little ROI the $7090 Musial Bridge has been for the area, yet it's the Loop Trolley that gets mountains more derision.
The Stan wasn't built in an effort to revitalize its neighborhood; it was built to relieve congestion on the other river crossings.
^ Yep, would have to agree with Framer.
Some thoughts on revitalizing the neighborhood w Rams funds
- Get rid raised section of freeway between Wash Ave - Cass Ave to better connect convention space/near northside/landing
- Rebuild/pave streets, sidewalks, add lots off trees
- Convert Eads bridge and improve trail connections off river to near northside
- support more housing, multi unit, to town/row house to single
Some thoughts on revitalizing the neighborhood w Rams funds
- Get rid raised section of freeway between Wash Ave - Cass Ave to better connect convention space/near northside/landing
- Rebuild/pave streets, sidewalks, add lots off trees
- Convert Eads bridge and improve trail connections off river to near northside
- support more housing, multi unit, to town/row house to single
All more productive things that that $700M would have been better spent on.
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Lets not forget that the Stan Span was paid for by IL primarily. MoLeg barely threw a fistful of yen in the pot.
Sounds like its purpose was to make work, lol.Funding for the Mississippi River Bridge Crossing amounted to $670 million. Of that total, about 80 percent of the funding was used to build the main span and some approaches. Approximately $264 million state funds were used to move I-70 in Illinois, $57 million to relocate I-70 in Missouri and $346 million to build the bridge with FHWA funding.
https://www.americanmanufacturing.org/b ... ican-icon/The Stan Musial Veterans Memorial Bridge — now known as the “Stan Span” in the St. Louis area — proved to be a major success. Completed two months ahead of schedule in February 2014 and approximately $23 million under budget, the bridge created well-paying jobs for more than 3,400 American workers during varying phases of construction by following Buy America provisions.
Missouri wanted a toll bridge with EZ-Pass if I recall correctly.TheWayoftheArch_V2.0 wrote:Lets not forget that the Stan Span was paid for by IL primarily. MoLeg barely threw a fistful of yen in the pot.
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If we repeal property or income tax we’ll have to toll all the interstates
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I think that would require another public vote. Previous toll proposals were rejected by state voters.TheWayoftheArch_V2.0 wrote: ↑7:55 PM - Feb 12If we repeal property or income tax we’ll have to toll all the interstates
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Yeah, that was the problem with Stan Span. MoDOT wanted to toll but Missou-rah didn’t want it. They’ll figure it out when it hits every single service the state delivers.
When did we vote on tolls?Chris Stritzel wrote: ↑8:06 PM - Feb 12I think that would require another public vote. Previous toll proposals were rejected by state voters.TheWayoftheArch_V2.0 wrote: ↑7:55 PM - Feb 12If we repeal property or income tax we’ll have to toll all the interstates
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November 1993. Amendment 2. I doubt the electorate has gotten more pro-toll since then.quincunx wrote: ↑12:28 AM - Feb 13When did we vote on tolls?Chris Stritzel wrote: ↑8:06 PM - Feb 12I think that would require another public vote. Previous toll proposals were rejected by state voters.TheWayoftheArch_V2.0 wrote: ↑7:55 PM - Feb 12If we repeal property or income tax we’ll have to toll all the interstates
https://ballotpedia.org/Missouri_Amendm ... ure_(1992)
Doubt it, drivers have been conditioned to subsidies.
When MO had a waiver to potentially toll to pay for the rebuild I70, the financial study put the toll amount so high, it was politically impossible, $20-30 for cars, $70-90 for semis, IIRC. And that was in mid 2000s dollars. In other words drivers actually paying for the road was a non-starter. In the end it was subsidized with $2.7B in general revenue.
When MO had a waiver to potentially toll to pay for the rebuild I70, the financial study put the toll amount so high, it was politically impossible, $20-30 for cars, $70-90 for semis, IIRC. And that was in mid 2000s dollars. In other words drivers actually paying for the road was a non-starter. In the end it was subsidized with $2.7B in general revenue.