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Builder Mark Morley sets sights on St. Louis City

Builder Mark Morley sets sights on St. Louis City

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PostApr 01, 2005#1

Builder Mark Morley sets sights on St. Louis

By Jack Naudi

Of the Post-Dispatch

04/01/2005



His company, which long concentrated on the suburbs, uses state and federal financial aid and the sales force of Mary "One" Johnson to give it a boost.



In the past, when Mark Morley looked for the hottest places to build houses, his search began and ended in the suburbs. His work can be seen from Jefferson County to St. Charles County.



But no more. Morley, the former president of builder Taylor-Morley Inc., has set his sights on St. Louis. His company, Morley Group LLC, is in the early stages of building up to 200 houses in the Ville neighborhood, across from Homer G. Phillips Senior Living Community.



"It's just an untapped market," he said. "You've got a big hole in the city."



St. Louis is a far different environment for Morley, who used to find the best patch of suburban open space, plop down houses and wait for buyers to come through the door.



Building in the city takes patience to work through a regulatory system that is more layered than in the suburbs, and political dynamics that are more complex.



"It's a slow incubation period," Morley said. "There are four or five different agencies you've got to pull together."



Building in the city also takes partners. In this case, there are three crucial ones for Morley.



The first is government. As with most new housing developments in the city, federal, state and local dollars are used to subsidize a portion of the costs. That brings down the price to buyers by tens of thousands of dollars.



A house that normally would sell for $180,000 is being priced at $115,000 to $120,000 in the second 10-unit phase being built by Morley.



With subsequent phases, the gap will narrow. By the fourth or fifth 10-unit phase, Morley expects the houses to sell at market rates.



Morley would be nowhere without another partner, a developer who can sell the houses. That's where Mary "One" Johnson comes in. One of her main tasks is selling the houses.



"The city is the new diamond," said Johnson, who has found success in several other house-building projects in the city.



Despite his suburban roots, Morley has the right approach to building in the city, Johnson said.



"We're interested in going into a community and working with the mayor and working with the alderpeople and building a neighborhood," she said. "That's what Mark wants to do, too."



Johnson said she has had little trouble finding clients, who include a large number of single-parent families looking to switch from renting to homeownership.



The final partner is a banker to provide construction loans. The loans mean Morley can pay contractors and subcontractors during construction.



Morley and Johnson chose National City Bank, which has worked with Johnson on other projects.



The government subsidies help reduce the bank's risk, said Scott Dallman, vice president of commercial lending for National City.



"We also look at Mark's ability to build a house, and Mary's ability to sell these homes," Dallman said.



Those factors will be more important in later phases, when the government subsidies drop away, and buyers pay full market rate for their houses.



Both Morley and Johnson figure they won't have any trouble attracting buyers. They will target suburbanites who are fed up with long drives to work.



"Urban flight is gone," Johnson said. "People are tired. They're tired of living in their cars."



Morley sees another reason for building in the city.



"What our community needs now is more housing for the city, for our core," he said.



Reporter Jack Naudi

E-mail: jnaudi@post-dispatch.com

Phone: 314-340-8223

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PostAug 22, 2005#2

Has there been any updates on what might be built across from the Homer G. Phillips Senior Living Community? I know the article said they were only in the early stages of building up to 200 houses in the Ville neighborhood and Mark Morley said it is a slow incubation period, but while looking through <A HREF="http://www.urbanstl.com/viewtopic.php?t=404">the Ville neighborhood</A> photo gallery, I was curious as to what these new homes might look like.

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PostAug 24, 2005#3

^The one rendering I saw of a few homes will not look like the homes in the pictures. The quality is not the same at all.



The rendering was so bad that I did not save it. Too fuzzy. Mary One Johnson's website (maryoneht.com), I believe, had the rendering. Searched, but could not find it.



The homes are starting at $88,000 from what I recall and they looked kind of cheap based on the rendering. Again, the rendering I saw was a while back. The images could have changed by now. The models were named, The Turner (Ike & Tina), The Nelly, The Sumner, and a few others.



I will check up on the progress of the area this weekend.

PostSep 08, 2005#4

These are photos of the new homes in The Ville area. The homes are very cheap looking. Perhaps these are the more affordable ones they are building. Overall, the original character of the new homes built thus far do not match the architecture of the neighborhood. There have been two blocks constructed.



In my opinion, The Ville is an old neighborhood with so much history that it is worthy of having architectural codes.
















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PostSep 08, 2005#5

THey are not horrible and they are new construction and should help keep people in the city which is good. A few trees would really go a long way to making the houses look better.

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PostSep 08, 2005#6

er, those look like crap on a stick regardless of secondary benefits. I agree with arch, the Ville is more than deserving of historic design guidelines, and complementary tax incentives that help cushion added costs of sticking to these guidelines in new construction and redevelopment.

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PostSep 08, 2005#7

These look much better than the half-vinyl/half-brick HUD homes scattered across North City. In fact, their massing is very similar to Pyramid homes or even New Town cottages. Sure, they're vinyl, not Pyramid's brick veneer or New Town's clapboard siding, but hey, these rather urban homes are then realistically affordable due to their cheaper materials.

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PostSep 09, 2005#8

ComandanteCero wrote:er, those look like crap on a stick regardless of secondary benefits. I agree with arch, the Ville is more than deserving of historic design guidelines, and complementary tax incentives that help cushion added costs of sticking to these guidelines in new construction and redevelopment.
Yeah, they are very cheap looking, in my opinion, and perhaps that has something to do with the fact that they are plopped down in the middle of a brick neighborhood, which is why I think powers-that-be or progressive stewards of the neighborhood should advocate more stringent designs to perserve the integrity of neighborhood and the structures left. Granted the neighborhood is not as strong as Soulard or Lafayette Square, builders, in my opinion, should not be able to throw up anything in the neighborhood. There's too much history - architectural and social - in this neighborhood. I don't even know if it is on the national historic registry.



southslider, the materials used definitely made the homes "affordable", and certainly that was attractive to some homebuyers, and in design they aren't that bad, but all vinyl in this neighborhood was a bad choice. I actually would consider moving to The Ville in a new or thoroughly renovated home, but I personally wouldn't spend $80,000-$88,000 on one of the above vinyl homes shown. For $20,000 extra I could live in New Town.



Perhaps the other models they are planning will look better. Nonetheless, I have seen lots of new homes go up throughout the city too, and these certainly aren't the worst new homes to go up in the city. However, to use all vinyl in an area that is mostly brick, this project sticks out like a sore thumb. Take a drive over there and see it for yourself. Perhaps the other homes might add a little balance once they are built.



This project sits off Annie Malone Drive off MLK. A few blocks away is St. Ferdinand. These are the types of homes you find.







The massively brick Homer G. Phillips is right down the street.







To see other homes in The Ville, visit this link....



The Ville

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PostSep 09, 2005#9

Seriously, just a few trees and a bit of time will make these houses look alot better. I don't love vinyl either, but with a bit better landscaping and some time (remember the rest of the homes in the area have had some 100 years to age) they will look fine.

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PostSep 11, 2005#10

Seriously, the only thing that time will do to these houses is make them look even worse. These types of houses were not built to last, and will be gone long before the rest of the neighborhood. This is the lack of long range vision that so many developers have. It is unfortunate.

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PostSep 12, 2005#11

Compare the photos above of the vinyl-clad houses of North City and compare them to the cottages (smallest homes) of New Town St. Charles



Other than vinyl verses wood-looking siding (I believe it's actually concrete like the siding in Botanical Heights), I don't see much difference in design. Very simple form with gables facing the street but no garages facing the street either.



Interestingly, the cottages sold-out fastest in New Town. New construction of affordable detached single-family housing in central locations close to jobs is highly desired but there are very few options. Thus, folks seeking new construction mostly settle for a close-in villa or a far-out subdivision.



Renovating older homes into newer open floor plans isn't for everyone, and can be very costly. Thus, if wishing to retain and attract families, the City will need to offer a mix of new and rehab. But the chances of affordable housing, at least owner-occupied, are much more likely to be achieved in new construction such as Morley's development.

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PostSep 16, 2005#12

The homes are cheap looking, IMO. They are especially cheap looking and unbefitting of the neighborhood - a neighborhood with more than its fair share of decay mind you. While it's great to see new affordable homes in this neighborhood, the development is visually an island unto itself amidst red brick.



Aesthetically, if these homes were built on the Pruitt-Igoe land, where there is little to no architecture to contrast except Murphy Park or O'Fallon Place, they would probably be more adequate and appealing. However, these do not contrast well the existing architecture of the neighborhood. It is not evident by the pictures. Even brick facades or siding could have melded the development better.



It's one thing to compare the Ville cottages to those in New Town ? architecturally and economically - which I understand, but another to compare the new Ville cottages to the existing architecture in the neighborhood. I don't usually get as incensed about vinyl siding as some people, but 100% vinyl homes in a sea of brick structures makes the development (thus far) look cheesy.



As I have suggested before, perhaps the other models will balance out the others.

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PostSep 16, 2005#13

Arch, do these homes have alleys in the back? I just noticed the electrical boxes out in front in this photo. Just curious as to whether these homes have alleys for services such as trash, misc utilities and parking. Also, as southslider had already pointed out, there aren't any garages facing the street... do these homes have rear facing garages, or no garages at all. Thanks!




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PostSep 16, 2005#14

Just look up "2601 Whittier, St. Louis, MO 63113," on maps.google.com and view the aerial of the Homer G. Phillips senior center and its surrounding blocks and you'll see alleys.



Otherwise go to the City Assessor on-line property records. Click for an interactive aerial and/or parcel map, and you'll see alleys.

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PostSep 17, 2005#15

They may be urban in design, but the fact that they're vinyl clad is a big factor in making them look "unurban" and "un-St. Louis". St. Louis is known as a brick city, one of the most of such in the nation...that's why it looks like an eastern city. The houses that originaly stood here were not frame houses. Therefore, these do not meet requirements for infill for St. Louis. Even if expensive redwood siding were used, they wouldn't fit in any better. Maybe a deep shade of vinyl rather than the pastel colors would have helped a little, but new construction really should be all brick to truely fit in. I wish someone would wake city hall up to this fact so they could enact legislature to ensure that the character of the city is not lost. The character of the city is indeed lost in these homes, even though they are not unattractive.

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PostSep 17, 2005#16

I don't think they look that bad. It's definitely not the best scenario, but they're trying to provide affordable housing in a neighborhood that isn't exactly flourishing. A project like this can give a jump start to a smaller community, and provide new home owners, which is a positive.



Are they the ideal design? No, but sometimes you have to take smaller steps in certain areas. It's not like they built this on Wash Ave in between loft buildings.

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PostSep 19, 2005#17

urbanstlouis wrote:Arch, do these homes have alleys in the back? I just noticed the electrical boxes out in front in this photo. Just curious as to whether these homes have alleys for services such as trash, misc utilities and parking. Also, as southslider had already pointed out, there aren't any garages facing the street... do these homes have rear facing garages, or no garages at all. Thanks!



Yes, there are alley ways. Not sure, but I don't recall seeing any garages. If I am not mistaken, I think there are parking spaces out back. Homeowners appeared to park on the street mostly.

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PostSep 21, 2005#18

Just like the Levitt towns of 60 years ago, with some time, some money, and some work each home will change and they won't look cookie cutter for long.

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JMedwick wrote:Just like the Levitt towns of 60 years ago, with some time, some money, and some work each home will change and they won't look cookie cutter for long.


Funny, I was thinking the same thing. Over the years the owners could add hedges, picket fences, trees, screened porches, shutters, bay windows, french doors, fireplaces, climbing rose bushes, etc. It could turn into a sweet street. Levitt provided dream homes for many people. On the other hand, Levittown is aiming low when compared with the existing building stock in St. Louis.

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PostSep 21, 2005#20

I wonder if the city will be planting street trees. That would help quite a bit.

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PostSep 21, 2005#21

Levittown houses also were built with materials that, while being "cheap" for their day, were infinitely better than these houses. Vinyl and chipboard doom these houses to lives of less than 50 years. In Levittown, many of the houses utilized steel cross-beams, durable wooden siding and all-timber framing.