urbanSTL

Gone Corporate wrote:Past is prologue. Let's move on. Let's get this sucker built.

Generally I agree with you, but get <i>what</i> built? Those renderings are just speculation on the developer's part. The power plants and trolley are "what if" scenarios. The 10,000 houses only get built if other developers do that. We have the starting point to a dialogue and the developer thinks it's the end point.



We should be reading the redevelopment ordinance carefully, asking where TIF dollars will go, asking what private banks will take a risk on the project, etc. So much is unknown.



Everyone would be happy if the Civitas urban fantasy came true. There won't be any argument about that "vision." However, McEagle is not asking the city to approve that vision but for public subsidy and redevelopment powers. I think we can all move past the vision, acknowledge how great it is that McEagle embraced a very urban vision, and get down to brass tacks on the specifics of what power the developer gets and how.

ecoabsence wrote:We should be reading the redevelopment ordinance carefully, asking where TIF dollars will go, asking what private banks will take a risk on the project, etc.

In the meeting, they said the TIF dollars will go to TIF areas A and I for the new office part on 22nd Street at 40, as well as to TIF area B, at the foot of the Mississippi bridge on Cass. These sections were shown in yellow on the plan. The rest of the areas were "per market conditions".



This leads me to believe that the TIF money will be spent in the next 5-15 years downtown, while the ordinance will impose a lot of indentures & restrictions and stifle any other development north of Delmar. The trees at P-I will just get higher as we wait for "market conditions". Business as usual for StL.

goat314 wrote:video with renderings I guess.



http://www.fox2now.com/news/ktvi-jaco-n ... 9316.story

-RBB

Barbara and sounds like Sheila Rendon are on KMOX right now with Charlie Brennan.