Pretty positive Biondi gets hard for "premature demolitions."
***** that guy. For real. He is destroying half the city. I formally challenge Biondi to a boxing match for demo rights to all future SLU properties. Bring it, jack*ss.
Still find it absurdly amazing that the absolute ugliest, most vile, most "the City is scary!" hunk of land in STL City is right next to SLU, is very much for sale, and that the University hasn't bothered to make a move on it: The former Federal Mogul industrial site between Forest Park Parkway and 64/40. Every time I drive past it, I think they could film the ending fight scene of RoboCop there.
Federal Mogul remains to crumble, but 100+ year old student housing is getting the treatment. Sure isn't logical.
Nooo! Last time I was in those houses they weren't all that bad. Certainly not worse than some of SLUs other housing. I bet if SLU offered to sell, someone would buy and renovate them. They are a unique housing option on campus.
Speaking of Federal Mogul, why doesn't the EPA make them clean up the property? The company is around isn't it? I imagine that pollution on the site is a major redevelopment issue.
One of the best things about the post-dorm college experience is the varied "found" housing in which students invariably live and visit during their 4+ years -- the single-family-units-turned-three-flats, the garden (ie: basement) economy-units, the former funeral homes, the store-top studios, the carriage houses and the alley-entrance apartments.
All the buildings torn down and all the homes demolished should and could have added to that experience. Instead, SLU is turning its central city campus into more and more of a commuter college.
I have fond college memories of the sometimes random places I and my friends ended up some nights living on campus -- poker (and beer) in somebody's concrete basement, lawn chairs (and beer) on an industrial roof, listening to music (with beer) in some green-carpeted, wood-paneled shotgun house owned by an old dude who sold weed. A run-down three-flat with a DJ booth, a pet teacup pig, and a room full of mattresses (don't ask).
In its effort to make everything its own and to fit in its prescribed "plan," SLU is destroying the very crucial college fabric that makes it such an important experience.
Kevin B wrote:One of the best things about the post-dorm college experience is the varied "found" housing in which students invariably live and visit during their 4+ years -- the single-family-units-turned-three-flats, the garden (ie: basement) economy-units, the former funeral homes, the store-top studios, the carriage houses and the alley-entrance apartments.
All the buildings torn down and all the homes demolished should and could have added to that experience. Instead, SLU is turning its central city campus into more and more of a commuter college.
I have fond college memories of the sometimes random places I and my friends ended up some nights living on campus -- poker (and beer) in somebody's concrete basement, lawn chairs (and beer) on an industrial roof, listening to music (with beer) in some green-carpeted, wood-paneled shotgun house owned by an old dude who sold weed. A run-down three-flat with a DJ booth, a pet teacup pig, and a room full of mattresses (don't ask).
In its effort to make everything its own and to fit in its prescribed "plan," SLU is destroying the very crucial college fabric that makes it such an important experience.
You definitely just described a key reason I often wish I'd gone to an urban university (Although by senior year many of my Mizzou friends did live in some interesting places over on East Campus.)
I was thisclose to going to SLU, and if I were an alumnus of the institution I can't even begin to imagination how livid I would be with the leadership now, especially given how upset I already am about it.
insomniacafe wrote:You definitely just described a key reason I often wish I'd gone to an urban university (Although by senior year many of my Mizzou friends did live in some interesting places over on East Campus.)
I was thisclose to going to SLU, and if I were an alumnus of the institution I can't even begin to imagination how livid I would be with the leadership now, especially given how upset I already am about it.
I'm not thrilled, but it has nothing to do with the impending demolition of these buildings - they're nothing to get too fired up about, IMO.
With regards to Kevin B's point, what's really disappointing is the widespread demolition in Gaslight Square/Grand Center/Mill Creek Valley. So many interesting houses, apartments and other buildings were systematically torn down in those areas, and they would have been perfect for students and would have made for more of a "college town" environment.
SLU is turning its central city campus into more and more of a commuter college.
SLUMSL indeed.
I'm going to have to disagree. Saying that SLU is becoming more of a commuter school is simply not accurate. Especially when looking at how many more students actually live on or adjacent to campus as opposed to 10-20 years ago.
For example:
University Heights Lofts
The Flats
PW Shoe Lofts
Spring Street Lofts
Those all have opened up in the past 5-6 years.
Also, it's just my opinion, but the demo of these language house isn't something I'm too concerned about.
SLU is turning its central city campus into more and more of a commuter college.
SLUMSL indeed.
I'm going to have to disagree. Saying that SLU is becoming more of a commuter school is simply not accurate. Especially when looking at how many more students actually live on or adjacent to campus as opposed to 10-20 years ago.
For example:
University Heights Lofts
The Flats
PW Shoe Lofts
Spring Street Lofts
Those all have opened up in the past 5-6 years.
Also, it's just my opinion, but the demo of these language house isn't something I'm too concerned about.
I tend to agree. I don't know what the exact percentage occupancy all of SLU housing is at, but it seems, since my freshman year at SLU, that there's been a shortage of housing. If they built more, people would live in it. And then, like you said, any "Commuter" statistics have to be greatly inflated due to the fact that those apartments you mentioned, not to mention the Lindell-Vandeventer/Moolah/Coronado/Lindell Towers apartments all right off campus on the north side. Is it really "commuting" in the sense of UMSL if people are living RIGHT off campus and walking to class and renting apartments with/next to each other in buildings that border the campus?
At any rate, my hope is that they build a big, new residence hall that can house many more people per square foot than these old houses, but knowing SLU it'll probably be a grassy/gravel lot or parking or something.
Was this from a time when everyone was SURE we were going to start using metric (cause, you know, it makes sense)? Or is the millimeter just the standard for measuring cigarette length?