Predict away!
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Blues Make the Playoffs
Albion breaks ground
The value engineered 7th Street connector sucks and fails to deliver as intended, but is swath of fresh concrete, sapling trees and new paint.
Optimist and Engineer Club sites see new proposals
Paul McKee gets sued by multitude of northside property neighbors
2 more student oriented projects are proposed near SLUH
The tower projects at the Armory officially die.
Cardinals trade for Cease
Cardinals win Central
The curse of the Chemical building is lifted, construction begins.
Albion breaks ground
The value engineered 7th Street connector sucks and fails to deliver as intended, but is swath of fresh concrete, sapling trees and new paint.
Optimist and Engineer Club sites see new proposals
Paul McKee gets sued by multitude of northside property neighbors
2 more student oriented projects are proposed near SLUH
The tower projects at the Armory officially die.
Cardinals trade for Cease
Cardinals win Central
The curse of the Chemical building is lifted, construction begins.
Predicting that 2024 will be a big year for infrastructure projects in the city. Development news and construction will depend on interest rates and construction costs.
Development
1 - Gateway South begins construction. Rehab of Crunden Martin Building and Site Cleanup
2 - 12-story student housing on Laclede breaks ground
3 - SLU Hospital Tower at Grand and Chouteau breaks ground
4 - Delmar Loop Mixed use project in University City advances
5 - Rams Settlement Funds Clarity. (Top 5 Ideas set by end of Q2).
6 - AHM's Downtown Projects break ground later than expected in Q2 or Q3 as interest rates come down.
7 - Target opens in Midtown, becomes huge success. Speculations regarding ongoing Steelcote phases.
8 - Pier Property Group's developments begin (Forest Park Flats in CWE and School Adaptive Reuse in FPSE).
9- Cortex K residential component begins construction as interest rates come down. (Q3-Q4).
10- Albion Tower news. Either tabled, redesigned, or construction start.
11- Chemical Bldg ongoing rehab
12- Delmar Maker District and Kingsway Development continue progressing. New restaurants, offices, and spaces open.
13- The Bridge at Delmar and Euclid breaks ground.
14- Plans and Renderings released for Clinton Peabody housing by Trivers.
15- Steady growth year for City Foundry, with lease-ups and top-out of student housing component on Forest Park Parkway.
16- Hotel construction at Market and Jefferson
17 - Old North Scattered Single Family Home Development
18 - Tabernacle CDC continues construction on Greater Ville homes
19- Near Southside continues to see small-scale infill projects proposed
20 - 3 Towers in Clayton begin construction
Infrastructure
1 - Construction timeline set for Future 64 project, which includes an at-grade Forest Park Parkway, Grand intersection.
2 - 20th Street Connector Project begins construction (City SC to St. Louis Avenue).
3 - Jefferson Avenue infrastructure project complete.
4 - Metrolink discussions continue. Design at 30-%. More renderings, station design information.
5 - Great Rivers Greenway begins Brickline Greenway segment on Market Street that will run from City SC to Harris Stowe.
6 - Tower Grove Connector Begins Construction
7 - Tucker Blvd Infrastructure Project Begins.
8 - First section of Hodiamont Greenway Implemented.
9 - Timeline set for resurfacing of arterial roads, safety enhancement projects per COVID funds.
Hopeful Predictions
- JC Midtown 7-story apartment building breaks ground
- Infill for Downtown
- BPV Tower Announcement
- Engineer's Club and Optimist Bldg News
- Midtown and Grand Center Infill Announcements
- North Riverfront Progress, Warehouse Rehab announcement, GRG riverfront park news
- Transit Oriented Development at Delmar Station Announced by Wash U, private partners.
- Skinker and Delmar project announcement
Development
1 - Gateway South begins construction. Rehab of Crunden Martin Building and Site Cleanup
2 - 12-story student housing on Laclede breaks ground
3 - SLU Hospital Tower at Grand and Chouteau breaks ground
4 - Delmar Loop Mixed use project in University City advances
5 - Rams Settlement Funds Clarity. (Top 5 Ideas set by end of Q2).
6 - AHM's Downtown Projects break ground later than expected in Q2 or Q3 as interest rates come down.
7 - Target opens in Midtown, becomes huge success. Speculations regarding ongoing Steelcote phases.
8 - Pier Property Group's developments begin (Forest Park Flats in CWE and School Adaptive Reuse in FPSE).
9- Cortex K residential component begins construction as interest rates come down. (Q3-Q4).
10- Albion Tower news. Either tabled, redesigned, or construction start.
11- Chemical Bldg ongoing rehab
12- Delmar Maker District and Kingsway Development continue progressing. New restaurants, offices, and spaces open.
13- The Bridge at Delmar and Euclid breaks ground.
14- Plans and Renderings released for Clinton Peabody housing by Trivers.
15- Steady growth year for City Foundry, with lease-ups and top-out of student housing component on Forest Park Parkway.
16- Hotel construction at Market and Jefferson
17 - Old North Scattered Single Family Home Development
18 - Tabernacle CDC continues construction on Greater Ville homes
19- Near Southside continues to see small-scale infill projects proposed
20 - 3 Towers in Clayton begin construction
Infrastructure
1 - Construction timeline set for Future 64 project, which includes an at-grade Forest Park Parkway, Grand intersection.
2 - 20th Street Connector Project begins construction (City SC to St. Louis Avenue).
3 - Jefferson Avenue infrastructure project complete.
4 - Metrolink discussions continue. Design at 30-%. More renderings, station design information.
5 - Great Rivers Greenway begins Brickline Greenway segment on Market Street that will run from City SC to Harris Stowe.
6 - Tower Grove Connector Begins Construction
7 - Tucker Blvd Infrastructure Project Begins.
8 - First section of Hodiamont Greenway Implemented.
9 - Timeline set for resurfacing of arterial roads, safety enhancement projects per COVID funds.
Hopeful Predictions
- JC Midtown 7-story apartment building breaks ground
- Infill for Downtown
- BPV Tower Announcement
- Engineer's Club and Optimist Bldg News
- Midtown and Grand Center Infill Announcements
- North Riverfront Progress, Warehouse Rehab announcement, GRG riverfront park news
- Transit Oriented Development at Delmar Station Announced by Wash U, private partners.
- Skinker and Delmar project announcement
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All right, I'll bite. I'm terrible at this, but here goes.
Sports:
The Cards continue to play like crap.
The Blues turn it around.
City StL wins the division again, and goes a bit deeper in the playoffs, but probably still comes up short.
The Battlebudgies win it all.
Some not sports:
We land a second TATL, most likely a lower cost carrier.
The super powered incentive bill passes. (That's kind of a dream, but there's a few little things in it that might grease the way.)
We see an uptick in major music tours, thanks to the new Chesterfield studio. (Should probably figure out how many we had this year to see what an uptick would look like, but . . . I bet we'll have one.)
I'll keep it to that.
Sports:
The Cards continue to play like crap.
The Blues turn it around.
City StL wins the division again, and goes a bit deeper in the playoffs, but probably still comes up short.
The Battlebudgies win it all.
Some not sports:
We land a second TATL, most likely a lower cost carrier.
The super powered incentive bill passes. (That's kind of a dream, but there's a few little things in it that might grease the way.)
We see an uptick in major music tours, thanks to the new Chesterfield studio. (Should probably figure out how many we had this year to see what an uptick would look like, but . . . I bet we'll have one.)
I'll keep it to that.
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Sheesh, leave some for the rest of usdylank wrote: ↑Jan 09, 2024Predicting that 2024 will be a big year for infrastructure projects in the city. Development news and construction will depend on interest rates and construction costs.
Development
1 - Gateway South begins construction. Rehab of Crunden Martin Building and Site Cleanup
2 - 12-story student housing on Laclede breaks ground
3 - SLU Hospital Tower at Grand and Chouteau breaks ground
4 - Delmar Loop Mixed use project in University City advances
5 - Rams Settlement Funds Clarity. (Top 5 Ideas set by end of Q2).
6 - AHM's Downtown Projects break ground later than expected in Q2 or Q3 as interest rates come down.
7 - Target opens in Midtown, becomes huge success. Speculations regarding ongoing Steelcote phases.
8 - Pier Property Group's developments begin (Forest Park Flats in CWE and School Adaptive Reuse in FPSE).
9- Cortex K residential component begins construction as interest rates come down. (Q3-Q4).
10- Albion Tower news. Either tabled, redesigned, or construction start.
11- Chemical Bldg ongoing rehab
12- Delmar Maker District and Kingsway Development continue progressing. New restaurants, offices, and spaces open.
13- The Bridge at Delmar and Euclid breaks ground.
14- Plans and Renderings released for Clinton Peabody housing by Trivers.
15- Steady growth year for City Foundry, with lease-ups and top-out of student housing component on Forest Park Parkway.
16- Hotel construction at Market and Jefferson
17 - Old North Scattered Single Family Home Development
18 - Tabernacle CDC continues construction on Greater Ville homes
19- Near Southside continues to see small-scale infill projects proposed
20 - 3 Towers in Clayton begin construction
Infrastructure
1 - Construction timeline set for Future 64 project, which includes an at-grade Forest Park Parkway, Grand intersection.
2 - 20th Street Connector Project begins construction (City SC to St. Louis Avenue).
3 - Jefferson Avenue infrastructure project complete.
4 - Metrolink discussions continue. Design at 30-%. More renderings, station design information.
5 - Great Rivers Greenway begins Brickline Greenway segment on Market Street that will run from City SC to Harris Stowe.
6 - Tower Grove Connector Begins Construction
7 - Tucker Blvd Infrastructure Project Begins.
8 - First section of Hodiamont Greenway Implemented.
9 - Timeline set for resurfacing of arterial roads, safety enhancement projects per COVID funds.
Hopeful Predictions
- JC Midtown 7-story apartment building breaks ground
- Infill for Downtown
- BPV Tower Announcement
- Engineer's Club and Optimist Bldg News
- Midtown and Grand Center Infill Announcements
- North Riverfront Progress, Warehouse Rehab announcement, GRG riverfront park news
- Transit Oriented Development at Delmar Station Announced by Wash U, private partners.
- Skinker and Delmar project announcement
Already happeneddylank wrote: ↑Jan 09, 20244 - Delmar Loop Mixed use project in University City advances
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Anyone have predictions regarding AT&T ( I think I know the answer), the airport redo progress, the mass timber tower near City Park and 2024 crime trends?
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My crime prediction is we see a few more months of decline and then some stabilization. I’m also hoping and predicting that the NARRATIVE on crime starts to improve midway through the year or so. It takes awhile for people to actually believe the numbers being reported.DogtownBnR wrote:Anyone have predictions regarding AT&T ( I think I know the answer), the airport redo progress, the mass timber tower near City Park and 2024 crime trends?
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- Downtown East St. Louis sees another historic rehab announcement
- Funding secured for central spine of Brickline, construction starts on the announce North Side section
- The Landing gains some retail momentum
- GRG reopens the flood gate blocking the North Riverfront Trail (PLEASE)
- Housing market for single family goes nuts again
- New Steelcote project announced
- Iron Hill gets an announcement maybe going with a phased approach instead of all at once
- Wash U announces plans for one or two of their Loop properties
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I suppose I should add it to my own list, but I'm very much expecting the airport to continue moving forward according to their timeline. They got the FAA conditional approval about when they expected it, I think. They should be getting the environmental review rolling. Once that's completed, maybe sometime this year, it's supposed to be eighteen months before construction starts, and the terminal building itself isn't the first stage. I wouldn't really expect demo to start before late next year at earliest. But it all seems to be moving along according to plan. I don't believe they're anticipating the project be completed until nearly 2030, so they have a few years yet.DogtownBnR wrote: ↑Jan 10, 2024Anyone have predictions regarding AT&T ( I think I know the answer), the airport redo progress, the mass timber tower near City Park and 2024 crime trends?
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This year, I’m predicting five things…
1. A formal redevelopment plan for the Railway Exchange is announced. The plan will be phased and focus mainly on housing and include space in the old department store section for a new store (like Target) so that Downtown can get a new retail amenity. The proposal will be from an out of town firm (I’m not ruling out DSG, they did Butler Brothers).
2. Green Street has already collapsed and is operating on a skeleton crew. Their Armory Towers are officially canceled and their FPSE holdings get listed on the market. Midas assumes 100% responsibility on 10 South Central. Sterling Bank finds a new partner for 50 Bemiston. Both projects don’t advance this year.
3. Cara Spencer announces a new run for Mayor. Another candidate also enters the race with the intent of being the “Slay/Krewson” alternative. This sets up for a competitive mayoral election in the spring.
4. Additional Amtrak service is announced between St. Louis and Chicago and KC. I’ll also say that at least one of the new service options will be an “express”, cutting travel time down a bit.
5. On the sports side of things… after a disastrous year, the Cardinals make a playoff run and achieve it, but fall short in the post season. City SC, learning what they did from this season, goes all the way and wins. Battlehawks also win it all and continue to have record attendance for their league. The win leads to St. Louis collectively giving the finger to the NFL.
1. A formal redevelopment plan for the Railway Exchange is announced. The plan will be phased and focus mainly on housing and include space in the old department store section for a new store (like Target) so that Downtown can get a new retail amenity. The proposal will be from an out of town firm (I’m not ruling out DSG, they did Butler Brothers).
2. Green Street has already collapsed and is operating on a skeleton crew. Their Armory Towers are officially canceled and their FPSE holdings get listed on the market. Midas assumes 100% responsibility on 10 South Central. Sterling Bank finds a new partner for 50 Bemiston. Both projects don’t advance this year.
3. Cara Spencer announces a new run for Mayor. Another candidate also enters the race with the intent of being the “Slay/Krewson” alternative. This sets up for a competitive mayoral election in the spring.
4. Additional Amtrak service is announced between St. Louis and Chicago and KC. I’ll also say that at least one of the new service options will be an “express”, cutting travel time down a bit.
5. On the sports side of things… after a disastrous year, the Cardinals make a playoff run and achieve it, but fall short in the post season. City SC, learning what they did from this season, goes all the way and wins. Battlehawks also win it all and continue to have record attendance for their league. The win leads to St. Louis collectively giving the finger to the NFL.
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My overly optimistic sports predication is that the UFL gets some actual momentum and finds some stability with decent 10000+ average attendance for about half of the teams. Perhaps STL can move past being a team that is powered by spite, I like going to the games but the vibes are just always so dark and angry
This sounds like the realized dream we've all been fighting for.Chris Stritzel wrote: ↑Jan 12, 2024This year, I’m predicting five things…
1. A formal redevelopment plan for the Railway Exchange is announced. The plan will be phased and focus mainly on housing and include space in the old department store section for a new store (like Target) so that Downtown can get a new retail amenity. The proposal will be from an out of town firm (I’m not ruling out DSG, they did Butler Brothers).
sh*t, I would celebrate just a ground level CVS/Walgreens.
OK, predictions pulling for most part by others. Agree, region on the cusp of some serious infrastructure work.
Infrastructure
- Raise (formerly TIGER, so on) grant for Brickline or 20th street connector or both. St. Louis and the region has been passed over the last couple of rounds if not mistaken. With new soccer stadium comes new infrastructure around it.
- Grand & FPP at grade intersection gets funded. Engineering full steam ahead. First big step of the rebuilt Parkway/I64 intersection redo
- Lambert secures Fed/DOT Grant to keep Single Terminal proposal moving forward at brisk pace, momentum builds
- St Louis county gets grant for Lambert roadways, freightway improvements on north side of airfield as Boeing project moving forward helps land further Fed transportation grants.
- Brightline will reach out and propose additional Lincoln Corridor service on 1-2 year pilot basis by end of year - test the waters with a daily roundtrip trainset and on board ticketing (an added fee to buy via Amtrak). Most likely propose an express service skipping over some of the lesser used stations such as Alton, etc but keep Springfield or any college towns on the station stop list. On car service/employee base will be out of St. Louis with to take advantage of minimum wage in the trainset. Brightline 1st midwest choice is probably Chicago to Milwaukee but Amtrak will not want to give up route and Nimbyism on that corridor has been extensive. So Lincoln Corridor 2nd best Midwest choice/
- 3rd river runner w at least one daily to St. Joe gains momentum. 2025 start at earliest as the biggest question will be having sufficient trainsets to make it happen. Missouri would love to see Brightline propose it but think their is too many hurdles and not enough ridership to support from Brightline's perspective it is a better bet for them to take the trainset and put it to test on a midwest corridor with already a strong ridership history.
Development
- AHM wood tower only one of proposed towers going forward in near term. Permitting by end of year with early 2025 ground breaking AHM group not as dependent on interest rates so they will steadily progress there west downtown vision, including moving up the wood frame tower as others hold off due to interest rates as well as the cheaper engineered wood construction is starting to get a foothold in America.. In other words, they have the advantage in getting to market first on next high rise development.
- Drury Inn moves forward on West Downtown, revamp, rebuild along with new hotels nearby on former Wells Fargo Securities campus.
- Old Muni Courts building sees a legit residential infill on back lot - mixed use, mid rise in line with recent Cupples Spruce Street development
- City gets serious about 909 Chestnut, Railway Exchange and to lesser extent Chemical Building by moving forward with setting aside some of RAMs settlement funds for large square project development, public private partnership. City might not lead but will put some money on the table
- Convention Center will move forward with phase II as powers to be resolve additional funding needed. Some more Rams settlement dollars to CVC as well as some street rebuilds, sidewalk repairs to near northside.
- Foundry Hotel phase introduced and permitting by end of year to break ground in early 2025. Foundry partners in talks with Green Street to take over Armory. Armory along with pedestrian becomes a long term vision.
- One or two suburban older office buildings get demo. Feds lowering interest rates towards end of year will spark residential construction as office/commercial markets remain flat for near future.
My only political prediction,
- Mayor Jones re-election as long as the good downward trend on crime/homicide continues. Simple as that
Infrastructure
- Raise (formerly TIGER, so on) grant for Brickline or 20th street connector or both. St. Louis and the region has been passed over the last couple of rounds if not mistaken. With new soccer stadium comes new infrastructure around it.
- Grand & FPP at grade intersection gets funded. Engineering full steam ahead. First big step of the rebuilt Parkway/I64 intersection redo
- Lambert secures Fed/DOT Grant to keep Single Terminal proposal moving forward at brisk pace, momentum builds
- St Louis county gets grant for Lambert roadways, freightway improvements on north side of airfield as Boeing project moving forward helps land further Fed transportation grants.
- Brightline will reach out and propose additional Lincoln Corridor service on 1-2 year pilot basis by end of year - test the waters with a daily roundtrip trainset and on board ticketing (an added fee to buy via Amtrak). Most likely propose an express service skipping over some of the lesser used stations such as Alton, etc but keep Springfield or any college towns on the station stop list. On car service/employee base will be out of St. Louis with to take advantage of minimum wage in the trainset. Brightline 1st midwest choice is probably Chicago to Milwaukee but Amtrak will not want to give up route and Nimbyism on that corridor has been extensive. So Lincoln Corridor 2nd best Midwest choice/
- 3rd river runner w at least one daily to St. Joe gains momentum. 2025 start at earliest as the biggest question will be having sufficient trainsets to make it happen. Missouri would love to see Brightline propose it but think their is too many hurdles and not enough ridership to support from Brightline's perspective it is a better bet for them to take the trainset and put it to test on a midwest corridor with already a strong ridership history.
Development
- AHM wood tower only one of proposed towers going forward in near term. Permitting by end of year with early 2025 ground breaking AHM group not as dependent on interest rates so they will steadily progress there west downtown vision, including moving up the wood frame tower as others hold off due to interest rates as well as the cheaper engineered wood construction is starting to get a foothold in America.. In other words, they have the advantage in getting to market first on next high rise development.
- Drury Inn moves forward on West Downtown, revamp, rebuild along with new hotels nearby on former Wells Fargo Securities campus.
- Old Muni Courts building sees a legit residential infill on back lot - mixed use, mid rise in line with recent Cupples Spruce Street development
- City gets serious about 909 Chestnut, Railway Exchange and to lesser extent Chemical Building by moving forward with setting aside some of RAMs settlement funds for large square project development, public private partnership. City might not lead but will put some money on the table
- Convention Center will move forward with phase II as powers to be resolve additional funding needed. Some more Rams settlement dollars to CVC as well as some street rebuilds, sidewalk repairs to near northside.
- Foundry Hotel phase introduced and permitting by end of year to break ground in early 2025. Foundry partners in talks with Green Street to take over Armory. Armory along with pedestrian becomes a long term vision.
- One or two suburban older office buildings get demo. Feds lowering interest rates towards end of year will spark residential construction as office/commercial markets remain flat for near future.
My only political prediction,
- Mayor Jones re-election as long as the good downward trend on crime/homicide continues. Simple as that
^Yes, the next round of municipal elections is spring of 2025. Mayor and half of Board of Aldermen will be on the ballot.
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It’s not crazy to expect at least one candidate to enter the race by the end of the year.
^I absolutely expect one or two candidates to announce they are running for Mayor before the end of 2024. They would be wasting valuable campaign time if they wait longer. But it's impossible to predict that Mayor Jones will win re-election as a 2024 prediction since there is no election in 2024.
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Here’s my predictions for fun
Gateway south inches closer to a potential ground breaking
Still no movement on both AT&T & chemical buildings however that could completely change with StL inc involvement
No construction on Tucker Blvd improvements
St.Louis sees a uptick in immigrants
No movement or announcement on BPV expansion
Taylor family announces its intent to move enterprises world headquarters downtown
AMH begins construction on at least one of its downtown west projects
Albion sets potential construction date
Cortex awakens finally
St.Louis gets safer this year as crime levels continue to decline
St.Louis sees another record hottest year possibly
wettest
St.Louis goes another winter without a major snowstorm
Cardinals start the season off not great but still find a way to make the playoffs barely
Blues miss the playoffs
CitySC miss the playoffs
Still no expansion of whataburger into St.Louis
In-N-Out burger announces plans to expand in St.Louis
Buckees announces plans to build a stop in St.Louis
Modot plans to replace poplar street bridge in its long term vision
Green street survives being dissected however Lux Living is no more.
In all this’ll be a positive year for St.Louis proper & region with continued job growth a positive inflow of immigrants declining crime & maybe some out of the blue surprises in a positive way. Fingers crossed & here’s to a great 2024 for all of us.
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Gateway south inches closer to a potential ground breaking
Still no movement on both AT&T & chemical buildings however that could completely change with StL inc involvement
No construction on Tucker Blvd improvements
St.Louis sees a uptick in immigrants
No movement or announcement on BPV expansion
Taylor family announces its intent to move enterprises world headquarters downtown
AMH begins construction on at least one of its downtown west projects
Albion sets potential construction date
Cortex awakens finally
St.Louis gets safer this year as crime levels continue to decline
St.Louis sees another record hottest year possibly
wettest
St.Louis goes another winter without a major snowstorm
Cardinals start the season off not great but still find a way to make the playoffs barely
Blues miss the playoffs
CitySC miss the playoffs
Still no expansion of whataburger into St.Louis
In-N-Out burger announces plans to expand in St.Louis
Buckees announces plans to build a stop in St.Louis
Modot plans to replace poplar street bridge in its long term vision
Green street survives being dissected however Lux Living is no more.
In all this’ll be a positive year for St.Louis proper & region with continued job growth a positive inflow of immigrants declining crime & maybe some out of the blue surprises in a positive way. Fingers crossed & here’s to a great 2024 for all of us.
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Why isn't AHM group not as dependent on interest rates? That makes no sense. The reality is that they are much more dependent than Dewitt / Cordish and Albion West development teams. Both seasoned national developers. If I had to guess, the only proposed tower that breaks ground next year is 3800 Laclede.dredger wrote: ↑Jan 13, 2024OK, predictions pulling for most part by others. Agree, region on the cusp of some serious infrastructure work.
Infrastructure
- Raise (formerly TIGER, so on) grant for Brickline or 20th street connector or both. St. Louis and the region has been passed over the last couple of rounds if not mistaken. With new soccer stadium comes new infrastructure around it.
- Grand & FPP at grade intersection gets funded. Engineering full steam ahead. First big step of the rebuilt Parkway/I64 intersection redo
- Lambert secures Fed/DOT Grant to keep Single Terminal proposal moving forward at brisk pace, momentum builds
- St Louis county gets grant for Lambert roadways, freightway improvements on north side of airfield as Boeing project moving forward helps land further Fed transportation grants.
- Brightline will reach out and propose additional Lincoln Corridor service on 1-2 year pilot basis by end of year - test the waters with a daily roundtrip trainset and on board ticketing (an added fee to buy via Amtrak). Most likely propose an express service skipping over some of the lesser used stations such as Alton, etc but keep Springfield or any college towns on the station stop list. On car service/employee base will be out of St. Louis with to take advantage of minimum wage in the trainset. Brightline 1st midwest choice is probably Chicago to Milwaukee but Amtrak will not want to give up route and Nimbyism on that corridor has been extensive. So Lincoln Corridor 2nd best Midwest choice/
- 3rd river runner w at least one daily to St. Joe gains momentum. 2025 start at earliest as the biggest question will be having sufficient trainsets to make it happen. Missouri would love to see Brightline propose it but think their is too many hurdles and not enough ridership to support from Brightline's perspective it is a better bet for them to take the trainset and put it to test on a midwest corridor with already a strong ridership history.
Development
- AHM wood tower only one of proposed towers going forward in near term. Permitting by end of year with early 2025 ground breaking AHM group not as dependent on interest rates so they will steadily progress there west downtown vision, including moving up the wood frame tower as others hold off due to interest rates as well as the cheaper engineered wood construction is starting to get a foothold in America.. In other words, they have the advantage in getting to market first on next high rise development.
- Drury Inn moves forward on West Downtown, revamp, rebuild along with new hotels nearby on former Wells Fargo Securities campus.
- Old Muni Courts building sees a legit residential infill on back lot - mixed use, mid rise in line with recent Cupples Spruce Street development
- City gets serious about 909 Chestnut, Railway Exchange and to lesser extent Chemical Building by moving forward with setting aside some of RAMs settlement funds for large square project development, public private partnership. City might not lead but will put some money on the table
- Convention Center will move forward with phase II as powers to be resolve additional funding needed. Some more Rams settlement dollars to CVC as well as some street rebuilds, sidewalk repairs to near northside.
- Foundry Hotel phase introduced and permitting by end of year to break ground in early 2025. Foundry partners in talks with Green Street to take over Armory. Armory along with pedestrian becomes a long term vision.
- One or two suburban older office buildings get demo. Feds lowering interest rates towards end of year will spark residential construction as office/commercial markets remain flat for near future.
My only political prediction,
- Mayor Jones re-election as long as the good downward trend on crime/homicide continues. Simple as that
^ Could very well be mistaken but understand that AHM is made up of mostly private investors who have cash on hand. Question then becomes how much of there own cash do they want to front the project.
Say you want to buy a house and you have the cash to put a down payment of 40 or 50% versus someone who has to scrape together every dollar and add a 401k loan or two to get a 20% down payment together. The person with cash in hand has a lot more financial freedoms and options IMO
Say you want to buy a house and you have the cash to put a down payment of 40 or 50% versus someone who has to scrape together every dollar and add a 401k loan or two to get a 20% down payment together. The person with cash in hand has a lot more financial freedoms and options IMO
You are mistaken. AHM isn’t made up of an independently wealthy group of owners that can fund the 35%-40% of total project costs required to get the project out of the ground and built.dredger wrote: ↑Jan 13, 2024^ Could very well be mistaken but understand that AHM is made up of mostly private investors who have cash on hand. Question then becomes how much of there own cash do they want to front the project.
Say you want to buy a house and you have the cash to put a down payment of 40 or 50% versus someone who has to scrape together every dollar and add a 401k loan or two to get a 20% down payment together. The person with cash in hand has a lot more financial freedoms and options IMO
Not to mention, they haven’t done a ground up project as an ownership group of any scale. You have to start somewhere but that does make it harder in the best of times. It makes it even more difficult in the hardest of times (current environment).
And even even if they could self fund that is not how a development of that scale works. For example, the Cordish / DeWitt development team are independently wealthy. Billionaires. They will likely still go out to equity markets / groups for some of their capital stack.
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Green Street is dead already, selling assets and executives already formed another company called HaloPlatinumBlues wrote: ↑Jan 13, 2024Here’s my predictions for fun
Gateway south inches closer to a potential ground breaking
Still no movement on both AT&T & chemical buildings however that could completely change with StL inc involvement
No construction on Tucker Blvd improvements
St.Louis sees a uptick in immigrants
No movement or announcement on BPV expansion
Taylor family announces its intent to move enterprises world headquarters downtown
AMH begins construction on at least one of its downtown west projects
Albion sets potential construction date
Cortex awakens finally
St.Louis gets safer this year as crime levels continue to decline
St.Louis sees another record hottest year possibly
wettest
St.Louis goes another winter without a major snowstorm
Cardinals start the season off not great but still find a way to make the playoffs barely
Blues miss the playoffs
CitySC miss the playoffs
Still no expansion of whataburger into St.Louis
In-N-Out burger announces plans to expand in St.Louis
Buckees announces plans to build a stop in St.Louis
Modot plans to replace poplar street bridge in its long term vision
Green street survives being dissected however Lux Living is no more.
In all this’ll be a positive year for St.Louis proper & region with continued job growth a positive inflow of immigrants declining crime & maybe some out of the blue surprises in a positive way. Fingers crossed & here’s to a great 2024 for all of us.
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Many still refuse to believe the numbers. What will it take? Even if down 90% there will still be enough to hear about that it would still sound like a lot.Debaliviere91 wrote: ↑Jan 10, 2024My crime prediction is we see a few more months of decline and then some stabilization. I’m also hoping and predicting that the NARRATIVE on crime starts to improve midway through the year or so. It takes awhile for people to actually believe the numbers being reported.DogtownBnR wrote:Anyone have predictions regarding AT&T ( I think I know the answer), the airport redo progress, the mass timber tower near City Park and 2024 crime trends?
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I think this prediction ended up being fairly accurate. The perception is changing, but you are right, there is still many people who aren’t on board.quincunx wrote:Many still refuse to believe the numbers. What will it take? Even if down 90% there will still be enough to hear about that it would still sound like a lot.Debaliviere91 wrote: ↑Jan 10, 2024My crime prediction is we see a few more months of decline and then some stabilization. I’m also hoping and predicting that the NARRATIVE on crime starts to improve midway through the year or so. It takes awhile for people to actually believe the numbers being reported.DogtownBnR wrote:Anyone have predictions regarding AT&T ( I think I know the answer), the airport redo progress, the mass timber tower near City Park and 2024 crime trends?
We still have a lot of crime even with the declines, so that doesn’t help. We just have to continue chipping away.
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