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PostFeb 23, 2007#16

Like this building a lot - very atractive and contemporary - it will jump start new towers along Washington Avenue - and it will also look great looking west down Washington Avenue.

The gap between Downtown and Midtown is almost closed. Thank Goodness!
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PostFeb 23, 2007#17

matguy70 wrote:
The gap between Downtown and Midtown is almost closed. Thank Goodness!


Let's not break out the champagne just yet. Theres a lot of work to be done along the olive/market corridor before we can claim any sort of linkage.

PostFeb 23, 2007#18

Grover wrote:^ Oh yeah, that would make more sense, but that means there were a total of 42 rental/owner units downtown prior to 1988?


Would it really suprise you?



The numbers are never totally accurate, especially when you consider that there are units lost along with new ones (Colombus Square cleared some, the projects along tenth are defunct, and neighborhood gardens just came back on line, etc).
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PostFeb 23, 2007#19

The Central Scrutinizer wrote:/CAVEman



I will not allow them to tear down the wonderful Erlich's Dry Cleaners building!!!



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PostFeb 23, 2007#20

being a true optomist for a sec.



I've believed all along that development spurs development. I know in some (many) cases things get over build and the market stalls... But I just feel as more and more people move in and around dt, more services will be added and the bleek perception of dt begins to change. Just imagine this building completed along with BPV and all those 1000+ lofts coming online absorbed. Bring on the hustle and bustle.
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PostFeb 23, 2007#21

Anyone want to place bets on which new project breaks ground first:



- This one

- The Roberts Bros.'

- Park Pacific
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PostFeb 23, 2007#22

I like it! :lol:



The location: http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&z=18&ll ... 1&t=h&om=1
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PostFeb 23, 2007#23

Skyhouse already has an awesome website.



Skyhouse St. Louis
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PostFeb 23, 2007#24

^ "Urban life redifined" indeed - :shock:



The photo in the flash looking east is awesome. A new tower like this is probably worth more to St. Louis sybolically than in real terms. It's great to add density, but the message this tower (and the Park East) send is HUGE.
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PostFeb 23, 2007#25

Wooo Hoooooo! :D All that softening market stuff was starting to make me think the DT development snowball was losing momentum. That's obviously not true!



This sends a great message indeed.
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PostFeb 23, 2007#26

Grover wrote:^ "Urban life redifined" indeed - :shock:



The photo in the flash looking east is awesome.


Totally. Is there any way to post that image here on the forum? I wanted to get a good look at it, but it disappeared from the Flash presentation pretty quickly.
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PostFeb 23, 2007#27

^ not that i know of. one of the benefits of flash is that nobody can steal items or text from your website.
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PostFeb 23, 2007#28

Promotional Consideration from www.skyhousestlouis.com



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PostFeb 23, 2007#30

Their website says

GRAND OPENING MAY 5 2007



I wonder what they are referring to? a sales center? groundbreaking?



very misleading, I wonder how long the website has been around?



if they are hoping for a May 5th 2007 GRAND OPENING they are WAY behind schedule.



probly should be May 5th 2008, OR May 5th 2009



LOVE the look of the building and dont see why something like this couldnt have been done to the DAYS INN property Glass and lots of Balconies...



Register and show the interest..! :D
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PostFeb 23, 2007#31

All that AND a dog run! Now everyone should be happy -



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PostFeb 23, 2007#32

Grover wrote:All that AND a dog run! Now everyone should be happy


Everyone but migueltejada. He hates dogs.
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PostFeb 23, 2007#33

Many times individual balconies make a building look pretty gaudy. Not on this building; good design!
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PostFeb 23, 2007#34

Cool picture. It is great seeing a modern building in this location. We should give an award to the first new residential building that breaks ground. Or maybe we should wait until it is completed. Anyway, it is good news - a great way to start the weekend.



PS: I love modern buildings with balconies. More, more, more please.
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PostFeb 23, 2007#35

Not overly impressed with the base, but i'm sure that's just parking.... I love the tower over all and think that giant square cutout on the southwest side is pretty darn cool. I love the idea that everyone has a balcony. :D

-I love our old city, nothing can replace all the beautiful historic architecture we are so blessed to have. But what i love even more is a mix of new and old we are soon to experience with this project and others.
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PostFeb 23, 2007#36

A major reason for the location of this building is the "secured" view to the ESE. Lucas Park, the Central Library, the Shell Building and Christ Church Cathedral mean this building has some of the most attractive urban views in the entire region, and they won't be easily threatened.



Pricing will be very competitive for the nature of this project; my biggest fear is it might kill what little momentum the Park Pacific Cityside still has left.

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citywatcher wrote:Their website says GRAND OPENING MAY 5 2007



I wonder what they are referring to? a sales center? groundbreaking?
Sale center. A little homework on CIN and you can probably even figure out where it'll be.
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PostFeb 23, 2007#38

gerwitz wrote:A major reason for the location of this building is the "secured" view to the ESE. Lucas Park, the Central Library, the Shell Building and Christ Church Cathedral mean this building has some of the most attractive urban views in the entire region, and they won't be easily threatened.



Pricing will be very competitive for the nature of this project; my biggest fear is it might kill what little momentum the Park Pacific Cityside still has left.


Speaking of views, only bummer could be for those who bought units on the NE side of Ely Walker. They may end up losing their arch views but hard to tell.
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PostFeb 23, 2007#39

I love everything about this project. It marks an entirely new era for downtown St. Louis. I knew new construction was on the way, but this is sooner than I imagined. FANTASTIC.
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PostFeb 23, 2007#40

A few comments.



1. Good news. Regardless of how soft the residential market downtown might be, it is clear for downtown to make the next step in so many ways, new construction must proceed. Having another horse in that race (along with the BV, Park Pacific, and the Roberts Brothers) is a good thing. Given its location, I think this project almost immediately becomes the #2 favorite behind the BV to actually be constructed due to its location (over the Park Pacific because of rumors of poor sales and its isolated location).



2. Makes you wonder what else could be in that area if the City would ever take on the NLEC.



3. Miguel likes dogs just fine. Just not excitable ones that hump your leg. Those get put to sleep. :twisted: Seriously, not to screw with B-12, but downtown only needs so many do parks. The idea of proposing one in many places is a ubiquitous as proposing a Starbucks, so his comments are very valid.



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According to a midyear 2006 study by the Downtown St. Louis Partnership, 1,275 new rental units and 6,088 for-sale units had been added downtown since 1988. The partnership also says there are now 7,400 rental and for-sale units available downtown, a number expected to grow by 1,300 units in 2007.


Is this true? There have been a total of 7,358 units added downtown since 1988 and there are now 7,400 total units available? I hope I'm missing something - or else the market is f***ed.


As I have said before, the Downtown St. Louis Partnership uses inflated numbers because it takes in areas north of Cole into such calcuations. So, while there is no doubt that a large number of residential units have been constructed since 1988 and many since 2005, the number above are high.
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