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Thankfully, it's not just us. A guy on my Facebook friends list posted this the other day regarding his hometown newspaper in Jackson, Tennessee...



"Discovered that the Jackson Sun has stopped allowing comments on their site. I applaud them. One less haven for idiots."

Grover and I are working together -- with all of you, if you'd like to help. Just join the Facebook fan page and add the inane comments from stltoday.com to the wall. We decided against the blog concept because we felt that the more we could involve the community, the more successful it would be.



http://stltomorrow.org

innov8ion wrote:Grover and I are working together -- with all of you, if you'd like to help. Just join the Facebook fan page and add the inane comments from stltoday.com to the wall. We decided against the blog concept because we felt that the more we could involve the community, the more successful it would be.



http://stltomorrow.org

Fair enough, but I think it would be cooler/funnier to be able to type in "stltodaycomments.com" or something.

^ Trademark infringement is probably more amusing from the outside looking in.

innov8ion wrote:^ Trademark infringement is probably more amusing from the outside looking in.

hehe...Fair Use doesn't cover that, huh?

At least this one has the gonads to put her thoughts in a letter to the editor with her name and location. Still just as stupid, but at least not cowardly



"Ironic isn’t? There’s now a smoking ban in place in St. Louis City, but it seems there’s a crack and heroin dealer on every corner! Talk about not being able to see the forest for the trees!



Kim A. Knutsen



Webster Groves"

southsidepride wrote:At least this one has the gonads to put her thoughts in a letter to the editor with her name and location. Still just as stupid, but at least not cowardly:



"Ironic isn’t? There’s now a smoking ban in place in St. Louis City, but it seems there’s a crack and heroin dealer on every corner! Talk about not being able to see the forest for the trees!



Kim A. Knutsen



Webster Groves"

Isn't there a section online of letters to the editor where people can post responses? Defenders of the city...mount up!

sorry, should have provided a link



http://www.stltoday.com/blogzone/letter ... y-of-vice/

Grover wrote:I've set up a blog to highlight the worst comments on STL Today. It's called "The Best of STL Today Comments"



Link: http://bestofstltodaycomments.blogspot.com/



I'm more than happy to give anyone here authorship so we can all add comments as we see them.....

This blog was created to highlight the absurdly ignorant, intolerant, sometimes hateful and ultimately unproductive comments found on the Post-Dispatch website www.stltoday.com.



The Post-Dispatch should not allow comments on their STL Today website that they would not be comfortable printing above the fold on the front page of their Sunday edition. Their continued facilitation of ignorance and hate is an abdication of journalistic responsibility.

This link doesn't work - are you using the Facebook group instead?

Moorlander wrote:This link doesn't work - are you using the Facebook group instead?

Yes. Try this instead- it has a link to the Facebook page:



http://www.stltomorrow.org

Just posted this anti-semitic comment from stltoday to http://stltomorrow.org

drumming umpire wrote:Nice try, troylifer. Read the talmud. It states that any non-jew can be killed, injured, or cheated without it being a sin on the jew.

The St. Louis metropolitan area is a classic study in polarization and could benefit from increased levels of understanding in such issues as race, sexual orientation, class, geography (city vs. county), religion, etc. The Post-Dispatch acknowledges this in maintaining a blog titled, "Conversations on Race" yet surprisingly fosters a commenting environment that encourages the spread of ignorance which serves to divide us. Our aim is to compile a running list of stltoday.com comments to highlight that this problem is no mere exaggeration and needs to be addressed. Additionally, that the Post-Dispatch admits it is too lazy to effectively handle this problem is not only disheartening, but irresponsible.



Learn more about this issue here: http://j.mp/STLtodayIgnorance and please join our Facebook Fan Page here: http://j.mp/STLtomorrow. United, we can stand up against ignorance and spur the Post-Dispatch to take action.

Post a vulgar comment while you’re at work, lose your job



LINK

^ If only Mr. Greenbaum took his moderating duties seriously enough to implement the suggestions that Innov8ion has posted here more than once. Anonymity generally works out well on this forum because there is a certain standard of behavior here. If the Post-Dispatch wants to continue allowing comments following articles, columns, and blog postings on STLtoday.com, it really needs to strip away posters' anonymity and make them accountable for what they say.

A Google News search shows this is already picking up national attention.



Seriously, they let all the racism and hate speech slide, but a misfired joke is enough to rat someone out and get them fired?



His only beef with the individual was that they posted a rude comment to his site. He could have simply banned them and walked away. Instead, he chose to act even more juvenile than the poster in question, and is proud of the consequences of his action.



While my opinion of the P-D has slid since the Lee buyout, I certainly thought it still had some integrity left. Mr. Greenbaum, on the other hand, has demonstrated today that he does not.

I heard the word posted was not the word rhyming with Wussy, but in fact the word rhyming with Punt.

Grover wrote:^^ Multiple people who claim to have seen it have said that it does rhyme with wussy.

Not to be totally crass, but considering what the topic of the conversation was, that word would make more sense.



I'm amazed Lee's lawyers let Greenbaum respond to the comments.

^ Drop the links or it never happened...

innov8ion wrote:^ Drop the links or it never happened...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/1 ... 62406.html



http://arstechnica.com/web/news/2009/11 ... ensues.ars

^ Here's Kurt Greenbaum's response: http://j.mp/39ELrZ. And a link to more articles on the same topic: http://news.google.com/news/more?um=1&c ... UMPDIngxXM



If only Mr. Greenbaum were more stringent with racist comments than off-color jokes... The individual posted the comment anonymously and Kurt violated his (and all of our) trust by going out of his way to punish him. And in retrospect he had the gall to gloat and call the man he effectively got fired a jack*ss? Doesn't this witch-hunt violate journalistic integrity?

http://twitter.com/kgreenbaum/status/5778019649 wrote:RT @kgreenbaum Amazed at the readers who comment in defense of a jack*ss who posted a vulgarity on our site -- and lost his job.

I wouldn't wish a firing on anyone, especially in today's economy, and hope that Kurt retains his job for both he and his family's sake. But the Post-Dispatch has got to be readying itself for one hell of a lawsuit!



It goes without saying, but I hope this serves as a wake-up call for @kgreenbaum and the P-D to SERIOUSLY review and unfark the commenting policy. It is way past due... - http://stltomorrow.org