Not sure about the Kings, but a recent walk through the Loop showed quite a few "coming soon" signs for new restaurants.
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Not sure where to put this, but here are some pics of the new artwork murals in the Loop.![]()
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Damn, these are great!!moorlander wrote: ↑Jun 06, 2025Not sure where to put this, but here are some pics of the new artwork murals in the Loop.
I am curious about other people's take on this. Since Covid, I've worried about the loop's momentum fading with a lot of businesses closing, but this year specifically, I feel like there's been a ton of new Asian restaurants opening that are bringing more life back. For example, the hotpot place where Froyo used to be, the noodle story place, which had been vacant previously, the new Umami Season hotpot place, the Tour Les Jours, and Paris Banh Mi further east.
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I am perfectly fine with this trend. Less touristy stuff and more interesting asian food to support the students at Wash U. It would be great for another "chinatown" area to rise up that is actually integrated into the city instead of having to go up to Olive.
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It does appear that the area is becoming a Chinatown light which is great. Maybe Delmar becomes a mix of different attractions with this trend emerging, the music, the small Black Business District to the east and the Delmar Maker despite tornado harm. Debaliviere strip becoming something could really bring the area into a new age.
I had a late Sunday lunch in a window seat at Blueberry Hill; there was a constant stream of pedestrians, which was good to see especially since Wash U is on Summer break.
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Has the growth in the Grove, or maybe Cherokee impacted the Loop? I was sad the see the theater close. I know we have a trend of moving our entertainment districts around. The Landing, Wash Ave etc.
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My perception is a lot less people from the county visit The Loop. In large part because the Pageant has much more competition.
I do see a larger presence of WashU students though.
I do see a larger presence of WashU students though.
Yes, the competition for drive-to walkability has steadily grown. The loop needs more people living nearby.STLCityMike wrote: ↑Jun 17, 2025Has the growth in the Grove, or maybe Cherokee impacted the Loop? I was sad the see the theater close. I know we have a trend of moving our entertainment districts around. The Landing, Wash Ave etc.
Those new apartments at the very western edge will be a great boost to the density in that area of the loop. Id love to see a few more high/mid-rise apartment buildings pop up between the Skinker intersection and Debaliviere
A big mistake when U City passed on the apt building and townhomes in 2014
Also needs Wash U to quit sitting on their property next to Delmar metrolink station as well. Seems like a great place to add more residences with access to a lot. Time to give up on the secondary campus/admin vision? Any thoughts?quincunx wrote: ↑Jun 17, 2025Yes, the competition for drive-to walkability has steadily grown. The loop needs more people living nearby.STLCityMike wrote: ↑Jun 17, 2025Has the growth in the Grove, or maybe Cherokee impacted the Loop? I was sad the see the theater close. I know we have a trend of moving our entertainment districts around. The Landing, Wash Ave etc.
Of course, will make my shameless plug that Forest Park Forever needs to take on Loop trolley park extension to the zoo. Need to expand regional draw by connecting Loop to Forest Park in multiple ways.
I was with my friends from out of town a couple weeks ago for the Kendrick Lamar concert. They absolutely loved the Loop, Cherokee, Morgan ford, which we're all packed and healthy commercial disricts. The Hill was actually super packed, I feel that neighborhood is becoming an attraction to itself. Downtown was relatively vibrant, but just appears rundown. The Foundry area of midtown was popular as well. The Grove was probably the sleepiest along Manchester.
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The Grove needs more daytime retail in a bad way, it really is a deadzone outside of dinner + going out time
^ My new home not to far away from Dallas Deep Ellum District and its murals. Feel the same way for Deep Ellum as it could definitely use some more retail and still plenty of space for more residences. On flip side can also see where the Galleria and Amazon prime sucks up most of the surrounding retail and makes it very difficult for old school commercial strip like the Loop to complete. Deep Ellum's case you got Downtown Nieman Marcus struggling as well as high end expanding Knox District nearby & a popular mall not too far from there. Not to mention all the packages I see delivered to my neighbors day in and day out.
1995 Deep Ellum would be far preferable to current-day Deep Ellum, though.
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Online retail is definitely a challenge. I use to avoid it, but it is the largest factor in my shopping as it is so convenient. I'd say the new Target is second, since it is less than a mile from me. If i need anything else immediate I find it in Richmond Heights.
I couldn't speak to 1995 but definitely trying claw its way back to some relevancy in the area as it relates to the music & art scene. Has a strong and growing restaurant scene w decent weekend nightlife crowd.jeff707 wrote: ↑Jun 18, 20251995 Deep Ellum would be far preferable to current-day Deep Ellum, though.
For sure. I go back once a year or so (unfortunately mostly for funerals of friends' parents at this point), and a friend from high school owns the Deep Ellum Art Company, which has been pretty fun to watch.dredger wrote: ↑Jun 18, 2025I couldn't speak to 1995 but definitely trying claw its way back to some relevancy in the area as it relates to the music & art scene. Has a strong and growing restaurant scene w decent weekend nightlife crowd.jeff707 wrote: ↑Jun 18, 20251995 Deep Ellum would be far preferable to current-day Deep Ellum, though.
