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The first group, arriving throughout the week, includes 121 refugees. They are being sent to New York; Chicago, Illinois; Syracuse, New York; St. Louis, Missouri; and other cities, the International Organization for Migration said.

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goat314 wrote:Who controls how many refugees we can take? We took a very large number of Bosnians and look what they have done for the community. I think one of the biggest things St. Louis needs is more diversity! When I lived in South Florida for a few years, the diversity was what I liked the most about the area and it definitely made things less racially polarizing. It forced you to work with people that were not "just like you" and I think thats definitely a good thing. When your always around people that think, look, and feel like you....it breeds ignorance! and sometimes I feel like thats what St. Louis suffers from. Think about it, some of the coolest and most successful places in the region are the most diverse. Think of the Delmar Loop for example.

Isn't the Loop nothing more than spoiled rich Wash U Kids, local hippies and posers?



Sounds pretty homogenous to me

migueltejada wrote:

goat314 wrote:Who controls how many refugees we can take? We took a very large number of Bosnians and look what they have done for the community. I think one of the biggest things St. Louis needs is more diversity! When I lived in South Florida for a few years, the diversity was what I liked the most about the area and it definitely made things less racially polarizing. It forced you to work with people that were not "just like you" and I think thats definitely a good thing. When your always around people that think, look, and feel like you....it breeds ignorance! and sometimes I feel like thats what St. Louis suffers from. Think about it, some of the coolest and most successful places in the region are the most diverse. Think of the Delmar Loop for example.

Isn't the Loop nothing more than spoiled rich Wash U Kids, local hippies and posers?



Sounds pretty homogenous to me

That is such a stupid misconception. I walked the entire stretch of Delmar last weekend and it was not only the most vibrant pedestrian district in STL (easily), but it was amazingly diverse wth cultures, races, ages and lifestyles. You obviously haven't spent much time out of your car on Delmar lately. It's one of the few commercial districts that actually works (now when the hell are we going to get a real supermarket).

innov8ion wrote:

migueltejada wrote:

goat314 wrote:Who controls how many refugees we can take? We took a very large number of Bosnians and look what they have done for the community. I think one of the biggest things St. Louis needs is more diversity! When I lived in South Florida for a few years, the diversity was what I liked the most about the area and it definitely made things less racially polarizing. It forced you to work with people that were not "just like you" and I think thats definitely a good thing. When your always around people that think, look, and feel like you....it breeds ignorance! and sometimes I feel like thats what St. Louis suffers from. Think about it, some of the coolest and most successful places in the region are the most diverse. Think of the Delmar Loop for example.

Isn't the Loop nothing more than spoiled rich Wash U Kids, local hippies and posers?

For Miguel, I'll pull a CS and simply say, "No."

I might have said "yes".

goat314 wrote:^ Yeah Juice, his comment was a perfect example of how polarization breeds ignorance, he also said that U-City was lilly white in another thread. I'm pretty sure there is at least as many Blacks as Whites in U-City if not more.

Sure - north of Delmar. South? You wish. Everything between Delmar and the FPP is whitebread country, with a few students and the occasional minority mixed in for good measure.



Yeah, I guess I forgot to include the 5 people who either frequent the church's chicken or beg for money. And the families who take their kids to Fitzs on weekends. How could I have forgotten them?



Ignorance? Oh please Goat. Get out of the classroom and look around for once. If anything is more insular and self-masturbatory, it's academia. Hell, most of the planning problems are CAUSED by academics who think their new theory is the answer.



And by the by - I used to love the loop, back when no one else did (hippies and homeless and all). I was going there to buy baseball cards and comics from Front Page News with my friend when I was like 10 years old. Now? Hyper trendy super garbage. But gosh it's got the Pageant and Pin Up Bowl!

brody wrote:So what St. Louis community do you love now?

People are gonna roll their eyes, but I love Ladue, mostly the stretch of retail along Clayton Road from Warson to the the Jr High. It's one of the few remaining areas of unique shopping and mid-century suburban character left. Yeah, the prices are beyond most people's budgets (including mine), but it's a walkable (if autocentric), quaint, and overall nice places to be.



Other places on my list are Downtown Kirkwood & Webster Groves, though both are starting to go the way of the Loop (overpopular chain-ified), and Dogtown.



Downtown Alton is really cool too the one time I was there. Now that's a place that should be far far busier than it actually is

Hey, a new page! Sounds like a good time to go back to the topic!

throatybeard wrote:How did a thread about folks from Bhutan get turned into an argument about the Loop?



Oh yes, MiguelTejada, the guy who thinks you're racist if you don't like the NBA.

I never said that. I said you were racist because you didn't want an NBA TEAM in St. Louis, with your only explanation being you didn't like the NBA game. Whether or not my logic is wrong, you sir or madam, are a total fool if you'd willingly turn away a professional sports franchise and all the money, jobs and potential prestige it would bring, solely because you don't like the game they play. I'm not a soccer fan, but would hardly begrudge stl an MLS team. Would you?



Now back on topic, I'm in favor of refugees as long as they make good food and don't create more problems than they'll solve. ATM, everything is going smoothly. I wish them the best.

Please get back on topic.

Xing, I tried, but since no one wants to listen...



Found the old post throaty - I accused you of being racist because you said STL and Pittsburgh (two of the whitest major cities in the US) for being the best sports town for not having an NBA team. I still stand by my point that not wanting an NBA team cause you don't like the NBA is totally, incredibly, farcically self-centered. Prove me wrong.



J - My age is irrelevant (though I am certainly older than the age range you put up there). Fact of the matter is that the Loop was (and still is to a consistently decreasing degree) an edgy but fun place. Now it's got upper class baby and furniture stores a few blocks down from tattoo parlors, not to mention a bowling alley bar that serves martinis. I'm saying the culture of the area is changing - and changing faster than people want to admit. Star Clipper is a great example (and I like the store) - but it's a clean, fancyish comic book store. WHO KEEPS A FANCYISH COMIC BOOK STORE?



I also never compared the strip in Ladue to the Loop Jason, so get your facts straight before you get stupid. And yes, I would take out of towners there if they asked me for a place with a unique shopping offer. Just depends on their budget!