Cabanne Townhomes

arch city · PostJun 30, 2007#12007-06-30T22:20+00:00

-West End City neighborhood

-12 attached townhouses

-2,053 sf each

-3 bedrooms/2.5 baths

-Brick and masonry/vinyl

-5800 block of Cabanne

-near Ivory Perry, Parkland and Porter Parks

-$2.5-million project

-Financed by St. Louis Bank

Developer: Building Investment Group

St. Louis City Board Bill #60

bastiat · PostJun 30, 2007#22007-06-30T22:41+00:00

Arch City wrote:

-West End City neighborhood

-12 attached townhouses

-2,053 sf each

-3 bedrooms/2.5 baths

-Brick and masonry/vinyl

-5800 block of Cabanne

-near Ivory Perry, Parkland and Porter Parks

-$2.5-million project

-Financed by St. Louis Bank

Developer: Building Investment Group

St. Louis City Board Bill #60

Are they trying to hold this area down permanently?

shimmy · PostJul 01, 2007#32007-07-01T02:52+00:00

Despite the vinyl, I don't think it looks too bad.

framer · PostJul 01, 2007#42007-07-01T05:07+00:00

That rendering's got to be distorted or something. I take it those are garage doors they're trying to hide?

trent · PostJul 01, 2007#52007-07-01T05:48+00:00

jcity · PostJul 01, 2007#62007-07-01T07:50+00:00

vomita

toastedravioli · PostJul 01, 2007#72007-07-01T16:40+00:00

Hilarious. It looks like a barn.

shimmy · PostJul 01, 2007#82007-07-01T19:03+00:00

Framer wrote:That rendering's got to be distorted or something. I take it those are garage doors they're trying to hide?

Yeah, I think that the garage will be below grade. Well, at least mostly.

ecoabsence · PostJul 02, 2007#92007-07-02T16:28+00:00

The design would be terrible on its own, but in the context where it is proposed (around the former Visitation Park) the design is outright mockery. That is an area of two and three story brick homes and apartment buildings in dazzling late Victorian styles.

Designs like this proclaim that this city isn't even trying to be great again.

debaliviere · PostJul 02, 2007#102007-07-02T17:34+00:00

Disgraceful. This neighborhood deserves much better.

That firm's other designs look pretty bad as well.

doug · PostJul 02, 2007#112007-07-02T18:37+00:00

This area used to be extremely wealthy with exceptional housing. It would be nicer to see what remains rehabbed rather than these ugly replacements.

moorlander · PostJul 02, 2007#122007-07-02T19:28+00:00

I don't hold up much hope for these( vomit emoticon here), but it would be be nice if they had a rendering that wasn't drawn in crayon. Anyone have a pic of the lot where these are proposed. It might help to see the surroundings.

doug · PostJul 02, 2007#132007-07-02T21:19+00:00

http://www.builtstlouis.net/northside/map-cabanne.html

Check them out or drive by yourself. It is a rather depressing sight as the area has so many great homes.

bastiat · PostJul 02, 2007#142007-07-02T21:56+00:00

They need to have a brick only ordinance in this area, like they are proposing on the Eastside. This area was once uppermiddle class, and should be in the future. Let's not permanently wreck it with crappy vinyl siding or subsidized apartments.

doug · PostJul 02, 2007#152007-07-02T22:06+00:00

That is a great idea, but would aldermen support these restrictions? Don't you think developers would pressure against such a "restriction?"

shimmy · PostJul 02, 2007#162007-07-02T22:11+00:00

Um, after reviewing builtstlouis, it appears that these will be the only(at least, in the far minority) single-story structures in the neighborhood.

jcity · PostJul 08, 2007#172007-07-08T23:08+00:00

the little idiot alderman in charge who's giving this the green light should be booted out of City Hall. I'd rather see these lots sit vacant, until quality construction can take it's place. Allowing crap to be thrown up (hehe) in a place that clearly was once a high end neighborhood is ridiculous. This area should demand better. I would consider buying a house of Cabanne Place, this new construction makes me think it would be a bad investment. Brick front, vinyl sided houses are tear-down candidates within 20 years. Again, I'd rather just see vacant grass lots than garbage housing. Who is the architect for these anyway?

doug · PostSep 27, 2007#182007-09-27T14:22+00:00

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Driving around Cabanne I see a lot of projects which are simply not good enough given its history. Moreover, if you drive on Cabanne west of Hamilton and look to your south you will see an example of horrible infill. Across the street to the west at 6015 is a shingle style Charles Ramsey home. That kind of BS shouldn't be allowed.

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shimmy · PostSep 27, 2007#192007-09-27T22:23+00:00

But yes, keep suburbia in the suburbs.

southsidepride · PostSep 28, 2007#202007-09-28T17:32+00:00

developments like this go back to the attitude that the city should be happy with whatever development it can get. They are thinking the city is like the desperate dude or chick looking to hook up before the ugly lights come on at 3a.m.

jcity · PostOct 11, 2007#212007-10-11T03:13+00:00

Driving around Cabanne I see a lot of projects which are simply not good enough given its history. Moreover, if you drive on Cabanne west of Hamilton and look to your south you will see an example of horrible infill. Across the street to the west at 6015 is a shingle style Charles Ramsey home. That kind of BS shouldn't be allowed.

I completely agree. This is like allowing Chesterfield McMansions on Portland and Westmorland. (ok there is one at westmorland and kingshighway). Cabanne is one of St. Louis city's best kept secrets. If I had the dough, I'd buy a house on this street. Unfortunately, this sh*t that is going up down the street really prevents this area from truly appreciating to maximum value and will prevent wealthier citizens from moving back in.

doug · PostOct 11, 2007#222007-10-11T03:48+00:00

Yes! McMansions destroy the historical continuity thus lower property values and are not as desirable as quality infill. It has been shown that people will pay more for traditional infill over suburban style homes and the pod. Most importantly, that infill have the same material as adjacent buildings. Check out that article published in the Journal of the American Planning Association. Given the City wants to maximize revenue, I would have thought this would be a consideration!