Hey, tell me more about the Franklin School development. Is that the school that sits on the North side of Delmar like on 19th or so? And what is going in there? Thanks in advance.
Franklin School Apartments - 1801 Delmar Boulevard
Franklin School Apartments - 1801 Delmar Boulevard
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You're exactly right - 19th and Delmar. Here's some info:
Central West End developers Robert Wood and Pete Rothschild have purchased two former school buildings, the Temple Israel Annex at 5017 Washington Ave. and Franklin School at 814 N. 19th St.
Wood and Rothschild will create 79 apartments in the 81,000-square-foot Franklin School. The 69 one-bedroom and 10 studio apartments will feature exposed brick and 14-foot ceilings. A 2,000-square-foot, two-story amenities area will feature skylights and an indoor courtyard and atrium.
?Even though it?s an old building, it will have contemporary touches,? said Tim Estepp of Robert Wood Realty.
Outside, the grounds will feature greenery, walking paths and casual seating. Currently, the former school is surrounded by asphalt.
Construction on the Franklin School is scheduled to begin in the fall and will conclude in late 2006 or early 2007. The development will cost approximately $13 million. Because the building is more than 90 years old and has been listed on the National Register of Historic Places, it will receive historic tax credits, although the amount available is not yet known.
Central West End developers Robert Wood and Pete Rothschild have purchased two former school buildings, the Temple Israel Annex at 5017 Washington Ave. and Franklin School at 814 N. 19th St.
Wood and Rothschild will create 79 apartments in the 81,000-square-foot Franklin School. The 69 one-bedroom and 10 studio apartments will feature exposed brick and 14-foot ceilings. A 2,000-square-foot, two-story amenities area will feature skylights and an indoor courtyard and atrium.
?Even though it?s an old building, it will have contemporary touches,? said Tim Estepp of Robert Wood Realty.
Outside, the grounds will feature greenery, walking paths and casual seating. Currently, the former school is surrounded by asphalt.
Construction on the Franklin School is scheduled to begin in the fall and will conclude in late 2006 or early 2007. The development will cost approximately $13 million. Because the building is more than 90 years old and has been listed on the National Register of Historic Places, it will receive historic tax credits, although the amount available is not yet known.
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irocktheparty2000 wrote:Hey, tell me more about the Franklin School development.
According to the St. Louis Business Journal, these apartments will be marketed to people age 55 and up, or active adults.
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urbanstlouis wrote:irocktheparty2000 wrote:Hey, tell me more about the Franklin School development.
According to the St. Louis Business Journal, these apartments will be marketed to people age 55 and up, or active adults.
Do you have a link to the article? Thanks.
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MistaC01 wrote:Lookin' for a little senior lovin' IRTP2K?
Hey Now...More interested in any development that is happeing around Moon Brothers, especially further North up Delmar.
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I was just joking with ya man. Did you buy at moon? I thought I read a while back you bought somewhere else.
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MistaC01 wrote:I was just joking with ya man. Did you buy at moon? I thought I read a while back you bought somewhere else.
I have been interested in several developments including Dorsa, Moon and The Ventana. I am a buyer at Moon as think it's a very cool building, price is right and like the fact it is close to the action but not smack dab in the middle of it.
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Well then welcome neighbor! Glad to hear you chose Moon.
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irocktheparty2000 wrote:urbanstlouis wrote:irocktheparty2000 wrote:Hey, tell me more about the Franklin School development.
According to the St. Louis Business Journal, these apartments will be marketed to people age 55 and up, or active adults.
Do you have a link to the article? Thanks.
It is the print edition... there may be a link to the story this Monday.
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Developers market to 50+ age group
Patrick L. Thimangu
As local developers Robert Wood Realty and Rothschild Development prepare to convert the old Franklin School into apartments for people age 55 and up, there's a word they will avoid when promoting the property: seniors.
"We will be marketing the apartments to the 'active adult,' said Tim Estepp, associate developer at Robert Wood Realty Inc. "We don't say seniors."
Wood Realty and Rothschild Development are spending about $14 million to renovate the former Franklin School at 814 N. 19th St. into 65 one-bedroom and 10 studio apartments. The apartments will have exposed brick and 14-foot ceilings. The facility will feature a 2,000-square-foot indoor courtyard and atrium.
The idea of renting the Franklin School apartments to "active adults" rather than "seniors" might sound like a simple selling gimmick, but the wordplay signifies a larger, fundamental shift in the way builders are approaching the senior housing sector. Estepp said the reality is that many seniors seeking a place to live today are younger in age, lifestyle and spirit than their predecessors of past decades. They defy past stereotypes that painted residents of a "seniors" apartment complex as feeble folk who were just a step away from a nursing home, he said.
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Patrick L. Thimangu
As local developers Robert Wood Realty and Rothschild Development prepare to convert the old Franklin School into apartments for people age 55 and up, there's a word they will avoid when promoting the property: seniors.
"We will be marketing the apartments to the 'active adult,' said Tim Estepp, associate developer at Robert Wood Realty Inc. "We don't say seniors."
Wood Realty and Rothschild Development are spending about $14 million to renovate the former Franklin School at 814 N. 19th St. into 65 one-bedroom and 10 studio apartments. The apartments will have exposed brick and 14-foot ceilings. The facility will feature a 2,000-square-foot indoor courtyard and atrium.
The idea of renting the Franklin School apartments to "active adults" rather than "seniors" might sound like a simple selling gimmick, but the wordplay signifies a larger, fundamental shift in the way builders are approaching the senior housing sector. Estepp said the reality is that many seniors seeking a place to live today are younger in age, lifestyle and spirit than their predecessors of past decades. They defy past stereotypes that painted residents of a "seniors" apartment complex as feeble folk who were just a step away from a nursing home, he said.
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By Martin Van Der Werf
ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH
04/13/2006
SCHOOL DAYS: Franklin School, the long-abandoned 97-year-old edifice at 19th Street and Delmar Boulevard, finally is on the verge of rehabilitation. Co-developer Bob Wood says financing will close on May 1, and construction on the building, designed by noted school architect William B. Ittner, will begin this summer. Wood is planning senior citizen apartments.
He and frequent partner Pete Rothschild continue to make bets on the northwest part of downtown. Rothschild says they have acquired two more buildings: the former Jackrabbit Candy Co. building at 20th Street and Martin Luther King Drive, and a two-story building at 1911 Locust Street. Both will become housing.
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ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH
04/13/2006
SCHOOL DAYS: Franklin School, the long-abandoned 97-year-old edifice at 19th Street and Delmar Boulevard, finally is on the verge of rehabilitation. Co-developer Bob Wood says financing will close on May 1, and construction on the building, designed by noted school architect William B. Ittner, will begin this summer. Wood is planning senior citizen apartments.
He and frequent partner Pete Rothschild continue to make bets on the northwest part of downtown. Rothschild says they have acquired two more buildings: the former Jackrabbit Candy Co. building at 20th Street and Martin Luther King Drive, and a two-story building at 1911 Locust Street. Both will become housing.
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This is great news! I love the Ittner schools and I'm glad to see another one saved. You can see a picture of this one at http://www.builtstlouis.net/franklin.html
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Why would he mention "senior citizens", rather than the "active adults" vibe they have been selling it as. This may put some people off if all they do is read the Post and it's the first they've heard of it.
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The rehabilitation work at Franklin School looks very good. I am delighted to see some progress on the ragged, forsaken northern edge of downtown, and the rehab of a very interesting Ittner design.
The cornice has turned out decent, too. I was dismayed when the original, mostly-intact copper cornice was removed before Wood and Rothschild closed. The synthetic replacement gets the profile right, as well as a close a match to tarnished copper as is possible without using copper.
The cornice has turned out decent, too. I was dismayed when the original, mostly-intact copper cornice was removed before Wood and Rothschild closed. The synthetic replacement gets the profile right, as well as a close a match to tarnished copper as is possible without using copper.
Not sure I would call that area ragged and forsaken.......One wash ave is just one street over, two you have MOON Bros Carriage Lofts a stones throw away along with Majestic Stove and The Edge blds all in the area.
^And there's been quite a few modern office/warehouse type buildings built just to the north in the last few years.
Regarding the old folks: there is no reason old people should "retire" to the closed communities of West County, or the horribly suburban and prison-like Sullivan Place. Downtown is perfect for old folks as they can walk everywhere. This is great for their health as well as their good spirits. It is great to see a project simply for them. We need old people Downtown, especially since they have money to spend. Not only would this turn around the perception of crime, "hey old folks live there it's safe," but it also adds diversity.
^ Call me crazy, but I was under the impression that old people have been some of the few downtown residents in the past.
Of the paltry 806 downtown residents in 2000, 16% were over 65.
Of the 2,204 downtown west residents in 2000, almost 33% were over 65.
Plenty of old people downtown I would say.
Of the paltry 806 downtown residents in 2000, 16% were over 65.
Of the 2,204 downtown west residents in 2000, almost 33% were over 65.
Plenty of old people downtown I would say.
I was unaware of those numbers. Then why hasn't someone said that if old folks can live safely downtown, then why are you younger county folks scared?
Because the number of old people living downtown is not and never will be (or frankly should be) the abritor of whether downtown is safe. When you add up a total 2000 downtown population of 3,010, that is pathetic. Old people, young people, people of any age would feel unsafe and rightfuly so walking around streets deserted most non-lunch times of day. And if people feel unsafe, then that is what matters.
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Tuskegee wrote:Not sure I would call that area ragged and forsaken.......One wash ave is just one street over, two you have MOON Bros Carriage Lofts a stones throw away along with Majestic Stove and The Edge blds all in the area.
I would. The newer warehouses, old trucking companies, parking lots and other industrial uses create a barrier north of Washington. Visually, the quality is poor. The streets are dead, and deserted at night. Projects like Franklin School and the Majestic lofts are very helpful.
^Barrier, I think not. This particular area thrives on it being a bit quieter than living in all the hustle and bussle of Wash Ave. Those businesses are not there to be incredibly pleasing to the eye.
^I have to agree with you and ecoabsence.
The area is a virtual dead zone during the day and night - especially. I think it is a barrier to the flow of downtown. It was built at a time when the city was almost desperate for new jobs and construction. It was built to keep GPX's HQ's in the city. I once believed that it was okay for the warehouses to be plunked down in that location too, but my motivations were because I wanted the city to present a friendly face to developers and businesses - plus save another company from moving out of the city. Hindsight is 20/20, right? Too bad HTC's (Historic Tax Credits) weren't around in the mid 90's before the city lost the historic Lambert pharmaceuticals building, which the warehouse replaced.
But, I agree too that warehouses aren't necessarily built, nowadays, to be especially pleasing to the eye. What's done is done, but more could be done, I guess, to better connect the area. Perhaps in time.
The area is a virtual dead zone during the day and night - especially. I think it is a barrier to the flow of downtown. It was built at a time when the city was almost desperate for new jobs and construction. It was built to keep GPX's HQ's in the city. I once believed that it was okay for the warehouses to be plunked down in that location too, but my motivations were because I wanted the city to present a friendly face to developers and businesses - plus save another company from moving out of the city. Hindsight is 20/20, right? Too bad HTC's (Historic Tax Credits) weren't around in the mid 90's before the city lost the historic Lambert pharmaceuticals building, which the warehouse replaced.
But, I agree too that warehouses aren't necessarily built, nowadays, to be especially pleasing to the eye. What's done is done, but more could be done, I guess, to better connect the area. Perhaps in time.