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"Skinnytown" Developments (Morganford Rd.)

"Skinnytown" Developments (Morganford Rd.)

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PostSep 11, 2006#1

A posting on Mayor Slay.com today updates us on some new developments in "Skinnytown," or the stretch of Morganford between Arsenal and Chippewa.


Morganford Road, between Chippewa and Arsenal, is now attracting significant interest from people interested in opening new businesses. Up next? An art gallery, day spa, and restaurant in the 3100 block.


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With the Tin Can, Grove Furnishings, Stella Blues, the Vintage Haberdashery and these three new businesses, this section of town seems like a hot area.

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PostSep 11, 2006#2

What is the origin of Skinnytown? This is the first I have heard of that designation.

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PostSep 11, 2006#3

arent' we supposedly one of the "fatest" cities in the country .... maybe we used to have a skinny segment

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PostSep 11, 2006#4

A rehabber in Dutchtown said that several rehabbers in the area have dubbed the area "Skinnytown" since the business district is rather compact (the street isn't that wide for the height of some of the buildings). The same could be said of the Cherokee Business District, I suppose, but for some reason I do get the sense that Morganford is more cramped.



Anyhow, I'm not sure how widespread the term is, but I really liked it. It catches the eye, so I wanted to help spread it.

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PostSep 11, 2006#5

We ate at the Tin Can on Saturday night and sat outside. The mix of people on Morganford is very diverse - and the area has a pretty cool vibe to it now.



The clientele at the 7-11 is still shady as hell though.

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PostSep 11, 2006#6

DeBaliviere wrote:We ate at the Tin Can on Saturday night and sat outside. The mix of people on Morganford is very diverse - and the area has a pretty cool vibe to it now.



The clientele at the 7-11 is still shady as hell though.


That's a pretty rough crowd over there. About the only 7-11 "rougher" is the downtown one. I'm shocked any time I go in there and I don't get panhandled or there isn't some sort of drama going down.

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PostSep 11, 2006#7

Third roughest 7-11 is Bates and Virginia. (not to get off topic)

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PostSep 11, 2006#8

Go to the BP across the street if you want even rougher.

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PostSep 11, 2006#9

dweebe wrote:That's a pretty swarthy crowd over there. About the only 7-11 "rougher" is the downtown one. I'm shocked any time I go in there and I don't get panhandled or there isn't some sort of drama going down.


Are you sure "swarthy" is the adjective you're looking for here?

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PostSep 11, 2006#10

Didn't someone say that 7-11 is shutting down?

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PostSep 12, 2006#11

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dweebe wrote:That's a pretty swarthy crowd over there. About the only 7-11 "rougher" is the downtown one. I'm shocked any time I go in there and I don't get panhandled or there isn't some sort of drama going down.


Are you sure "swarthy" is the adjective you're looking for here?


No. I apologize and didn't know the true meaning until looking it up just a moment ago. I didn't hear the term until a month or two ago and heard it used refering to a dive bar in Granite City.


Didn't someone say that 7-11 is shutting down?


It's the 7-11 way down at the Gravois intersection.

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PostSep 12, 2006#12

Ah.

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PostSep 19, 2006#13

Last weekend I checked out T.F.A.'s new 6,000-ft furniture warehouse that opened recently on MarganFard. If you like the TFA on South Grand, definitely check out this new space. It's open to the public Friday-Sunday I believe.



I asked them about the nickname "Skinnytown" and they had never heard district referred to that.

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PostSep 20, 2006#14

Business picks up on Morganford

Jim Merkel

Of the Suburban Journals

South Side Journal

09/20/2006



When the Tin Can Tavern and Grille opened at 3157 Morganford Road in March 2005, its location was a matter of economics.



"It was one of the areas that we could afford to purchase a building," said Josh Alt, an owner of the Tin Can.



"There was really nothing going on when we got down here," Alt said. "When we came down here, probably 80 percent of them were boarded up."



There's been enough activity on the area of Morganford south of Arsenal Street to attract the attention of Mayor Francis Slay in his blog, www.mayorslay.com.



"Morganford Road, between Chippewa and Arsenal, is now attracting significant interest from people interested in opening new businesses." Slay wrote. "Up next? An art gallery, day spa and restaurant in the 3100 block."



Once people saw the Tin Can in business, some things started happening, Alt said.



A business association started for the area and the mayor and the local alderman, Joseph Vollmer, D-10th Ward, took an interest in the street, Alt said.



Business is great, Alt said. "It's actually better than what we had expected it to be," he said.



The Tin Can specializes in home-style food and canned beer, Alt said.



"The street itself, it's just a natural area for business development," said Bill Waggoner of Grove Furnishings, 3169 Morganford Road.



The business, which specializes in handcrafted furniture made by local artisans, has been in existence for about a year and a half.



"It gets better by the day and with the other things going on, it's picked up significantly within the last year," Waggoner said. He's expecting banner sales at Christmas.



"We've got a couple of buildings that are under construction and a couple of businesses that should be open within the next few months," Waggoner said.



Among his positions, Waggoner is president of the Tower Grove Business Association, which covers the area from Interstate 44 to Chippewa Street and from South Grand Boulevard and South Kingshighway Boulevard. It mostly includes businesses in the "interior" of that area and not on Kingshighway or Grand.



"It's actually a pretty natural progression. Most of the area around us is developed or being developed," Waggoner said.



Among the renovation projects going on is at 3182-84 Morganford.



Morganford Plaza LLC bought a former bakery at that location and is renovating it to be a full-service restaurant and catering outlet. On the Connecticut Street side of the building there will be a doughnut and pastry shop.



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PostOct 02, 2006#15

The car wash next to the 7-11 is currently for sale, listed at $425k. For the love of God and all that is holy, please somebody buy it and tear it down!

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PostOct 03, 2006#16

Third roughest 7-11 is Bates and Virginia. (not to get off topic)



Go to the BP across the street if you want even rougher.


No kidding! There's potential along that stretch of Virginia Avenue, which the owners of Iron Barley recognize, but there's so much work to do.



That's why I'm glad to see that stretch of Morganford Road coming back to life. And the difference that's been made in just the last year or two is amazing. Give it 2-3 more years and we could really have another vibrant stretch there.



Getting rid of that car wash and the 7-11 would be a great start. And frankly, I wouldn't shed a tear if every 7-11 in the city closed. They're all a bit shady IMHO.

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PostOct 05, 2006#17

The car wash next to the 7-11 is currently for sale, listed at $425k. For the love of God and all that is holy, please somebody buy it and tear it down!


I smell speculation, there is no way that property is worth that.



At that price the property will be vacant and blighted until the owner is forced to sell through eminent domain is used.

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PostOct 05, 2006#18

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The car wash next to the 7-11 is currently for sale, listed at $425k. For the love of God and all that is holy, please somebody buy it and tear it down!


I smell speculation, there is no way that property is worth that.



At that price the property will be vacant and blighted until the owner is forced to sell through eminent domain is used.


But I thought eminent domain was evil?



Seriously though: that's a bit high but not obnoxious. Even a rough self serve car wash is worth a couple hundred thousand. (my dad looked at buying one)

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PostNov 19, 2006#19

Along with all the commercial/business development, there has been a lot of positive residential development in those first 3 blocks starting at Arsenal Morganford and heading South. Buildings that were vacant and boarded up during the summer of 2005 are now actively changing, already looking nice, and -- looking at the plans the owners have -- heading into much nicer territory.



It should be interesting to see how the residential improvements will pair with the commercial developments in shaping the area for the coming years.


Citylover wrote:Business picks up on Morganford

Jim Merkel

Of the Suburban Journals

South Side Journal

09/20/2006



When the Tin Can Tavern and Grille opened at 3157 Morganford Road in March 2005, its location was a matter of economics.



"It was one of the areas that we could afford to purchase a building," said Josh Alt, an owner of the Tin Can.



"There was really nothing going on when we got down here," Alt said. "When we came down here, probably 80 percent of them were boarded up."



There's been enough activity on the area of Morganford south of Arsenal Street to attract the attention of Mayor Francis Slay in his blog, www.mayorslay.com.



"Morganford Road, between Chippewa and Arsenal, is now attracting significant interest from people interested in opening new businesses." Slay wrote. "Up next? An art gallery, day spa and restaurant in the 3100 block."



Once people saw the Tin Can in business, some things started happening, Alt said.



A business association started for the area and the mayor and the local alderman, Joseph Vollmer, D-10th Ward, took an interest in the street, Alt said.



Business is great, Alt said. "It's actually better than what we had expected it to be," he said.



The Tin Can specializes in home-style food and canned beer, Alt said.



"The street itself, it's just a natural area for business development," said Bill Waggoner of Grove Furnishings, 3169 Morganford Road.



The business, which specializes in handcrafted furniture made by local artisans, has been in existence for about a year and a half.



"It gets better by the day and with the other things going on, it's picked up significantly within the last year," Waggoner said. He's expecting banner sales at Christmas.



"We've got a couple of buildings that are under construction and a couple of businesses that should be open within the next few months," Waggoner said.



Among his positions, Waggoner is president of the Tower Grove Business Association, which covers the area from Interstate 44 to Chippewa Street and from South Grand Boulevard and South Kingshighway Boulevard. It mostly includes businesses in the "interior" of that area and not on Kingshighway or Grand.



"It's actually a pretty natural progression. Most of the area around us is developed or being developed," Waggoner said.



Among the renovation projects going on is at 3182-84 Morganford.



Morganford Plaza LLC bought a former bakery at that location and is renovating it to be a full-service restaurant and catering outlet. On the Connecticut Street side of the building there will be a doughnut and pastry shop.



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PostNov 20, 2006#20

Matt Drops The H wrote:A posting on Mayor Slay.com today updates us on some new developments in "Skinnytown," or the stretch of Morganford between Arsenal and Chippewa.
I prefer "MoFo" over "Skinnytown", but I don't know if it'll take off.

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PostDec 12, 2006#21

RUmor has it that a local grocery (think Trader Joe's) will be opening on Morganford late next spring. I have heard this from a couple of people, but this is the most direct reference I have been able to find:http://15thwardstl.org/node/216 Anyne familiar with the project?

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PostDec 12, 2006#22

None of that makes it sound like TJ's will open on Morganford. It sounds like a pre-emptive strike by an independent to not let TJ's steal all the thunder. If/when TJ's comes to StL City I believe it would be in a more dense, heavily travelled area - maybe Spring and FPP.

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PostDec 13, 2006#23

The grocery opening on Morganford will be run by Patrick Horine who set up the Farmer's Market in Tower Grove Park this year. I don't know if this will mean the end of the Farmer's Market or not.

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PostDec 15, 2006#24

I have no link, but I seem to remember the farmer's market organizers saying that after the success of this year they were going to do it again in 2007. Since it is only held once a week, I think it can peacefully coexist with the grocer.

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PostDec 21, 2006#25

Conurbation wrote:RUmor has it that a local grocery (think Trader Joe's) will be opening on Morganford late next spring. I have heard this from a couple of people, but this is the most direct reference I have been able to find:http://15thwardstl.org/node/216 Anyne familiar with the project?


There was an article in Wednesday's South Side Journal about the new grocery store. It will open in 2007.

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