Developments Around SLU's Campus

BillikenLifer · PostApr 11, 2019#12019-04-11T21:57+00:00

SLU is in the process of tearing down what was formerly Laclede's, Diablitos, Pruellage Hall, and O Brien Hall. What is unclear is what will replace those sites in the near and long term future. Green space? Parking lots? New developments?

That area is really in demand right now with the Foundry development nearby, SLU should at least lease the buildings out until they have a plan for those sites. Otherwise it will just be classic SLU, taking up more valuable development space with parking lots and green space for the next 2 decades.....

framer · PostApr 12, 2019#22019-04-12T00:46+00:00

Could someone post some kind of a map showing exactly where these properties are?

mjbais1489 · PostApr 12, 2019#32019-04-12T01:48+00:00

Quick Google Map

chriss752 · PostApr 12, 2019#42019-04-12T03:18+00:00

mjbais1489 wrote: ↑
Apr 12, 2019

Quick Google Map

Seems like a very random placement of buildings. I don't see SLU replacing them with anything new. If they were contiguous, then I could see them building a new Hall or something but the random placement makes me think otherwise. Most likely parking lots and green space. Hopefully I'm wrong.

framer · PostApr 12, 2019#52019-04-12T04:50+00:00

Nice job (and quick work) on that map, mj. Thanks.

pattimagee · PostJul 02, 2019#62019-07-02T16:53+00:00

Anyone know what's being built by the Grand Forest Apartments on SLU's campus?

Black02AltimaSE · PostJul 02, 2019#72019-07-02T19:17+00:00

^Are you talking about the construction shown in photos on this thread?

https://urbanstl.com/new-slu-science-and-engineering-building-240-n-gra-t11583.html

pattimagee · PostJul 02, 2019#82019-07-02T19:23+00:00

I'll grab a photo tomorrow - its just north of where Forrest Park Ave starts to exit on Grand.

mjbais1489 · PostJul 02, 2019#92019-07-02T19:52+00:00

https://www.stltoday.com/business/local ... 516ae.html

Is it this? Across the street from the Foundry development - west of the Grand/FPP Intersection.

chaifetz10 · PostJul 03, 2019#102019-07-03T02:30+00:00

No, the location is just next to Chaifetz Arena - just on the other side of the Chaifetz back of house parking lot. Perhaps SLU is finally building the third major dorm?

Edit: this was a conceptual rendering from KWK years ago before the two other residential buildings were built. Again - this is not a rumor that this is what is being built. Just restating there was a proposal at one point for the area being discussed. https://www.kwkarchitects.com/projects/ ... university

pattimagee · PostJul 03, 2019#112019-07-03T15:44+00:00

I just drove by again this morning. Its in the south parking lot of the Marchetti Towers West. The footprint is almost exactly the size of one of the other Marchetti towers. Here's the photos I snapped quickly, sorry they aren't better:

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mjbais1489 · PostJul 03, 2019#122019-07-03T17:00+00:00

Thanks - that helps firm up the location which makes way more sense now. I can't imagine they're building a new tower before dealing with Reinart. Though maybe they're adding space now so they can renovate/tear down Reinart after this is done.

Ill head over to the basketball board and see if they have had any discussion or know anything.

gone corporate · PostJul 03, 2019#132019-07-03T17:15+00:00

^^The image posted by chaifetz10 certainly point to a great opportunity for SLU to replace outdated residential on clearly underutilized land with new dorms that'd be more attractive to students than current offerings. And as he noted, it is just conceptual and not meant to spur rumors. Indeed, no news stories from SLU on new construction have been put out recently, including whatever it is they're doing on the parking lots south of the Marchetti Towers.

Meanwhile, if I were to speculate, I'd think there's a great impetus for SLU to build new residential. Their 2 new dorm towers on Laclede (Grand Hall and Spring Hall) have both been impressive and can easily be said to have increased quality of life measures for students. There is much development going on near SLU, including the City Foundry, the rehab of the Armory, and everything Cortex. Land prices have been going up. As well, there's talk of redeveloping the depressed lanes of Forest Park Parkway at Grand (like what was done at FPP at Kingshighway), which would be highly disruptive to SLU students who reside at Reinert Hall (SW of the intersection, next to 64/40). Making a pure guess here, with no backing, and not wanting to start rumors: If I was in charge, I'd build new dorms on what's now the Grand Forest Apartments (the 2-story buildings clustered west of Chaifetz Arena); sell Reinert Hall to private developers in the wing; and immediately back roadway redevelopment of Grand at Forest Park Parkway.

dtwest · PostJul 03, 2019#142019-07-03T20:44+00:00

from the SLU’s website:
Saint Louis University is moving forward with plans to replace a 55-year-old, University-owned electrical substation that supplies power to about one-third of SLU’s north campus.
The existing substation is situated between Busch Student Center and McDonnell Douglas Hall. After considering a variety of options, SLU selected the St. Peter’s parking lot, south of Marchetti Tower East, as the new location.

pattimagee · PostJul 03, 2019#152019-07-03T21:09+00:00

Shucks, thanks for pulling that.

midwest_best · PostJul 04, 2019#162019-07-04T00:27+00:00

Makes sense. The existing substation is a total eye sore right in the middle of campus.

urbanitas · PostJul 04, 2019#172019-07-04T06:54+00:00

dtwest wrote: from the SLU’s website:
Saint Louis University is moving forward with plans to replace a 55-year-old, University-owned electrical substation that supplies power to about one-third of SLU’s north campus.
The existing substation is situated between Busch Student Center and McDonnell Douglas Hall. After considering a variety of options, SLU selected the St. Peter’s parking lot, south of Marchetti Tower East, as the new location.

Couldn't they find an old building to demolish for this?

billikens&bricks · PostJul 04, 2019#182019-07-04T15:30+00:00

gone corporate wrote: Meanwhile, if I were to speculate, I'd think there's a great impetus for SLU to build new residential. Their 2 new dorm towers on Laclede (Grand Hall and Spring Hall) have both been impressive and can easily be said to have increased quality of life measures for students. There is much development going on near SLU, including the City Foundry, the rehab of the Armory, and everything Cortex. Land prices have been going up. As well, there's talk of redeveloping the depressed lanes of Forest Park Parkway at Grand (like what was done at FPP at Kingshighway), which would be highly disruptive to SLU students who reside at Reinert Hall (SW of the intersection, next to 64/40). Making a pure guess here, with no backing, and not wanting to start rumors: If I was in charge, I'd build new dorms on what's now the Grand Forest Apartments (the 2-story buildings clustered west of Chaifetz Arena); sell Reinert Hall to private developers in the wing; and immediately back roadway redevelopment of Grand at Forest Park Parkway.

This.

Also, while it will never happen, I'd also reconnect Theresa Ave. through SLU's campus as part of the Grand/FPP roadway redevelopment.

debaliviere · PostJul 04, 2019#192019-07-04T19:33+00:00

gone corporate wrote: ^^The image posted by chaifetz10 certainly point to a great opportunity for SLU to replace outdated residential on clearly underutilized land with new dorms that'd be more attractive to students than current offerings. And as he noted, it is just conceptual and not meant to spur rumors. Indeed, no news stories from SLU on new construction have been put out recently, including whatever it is they're doing on the parking lots south of the Marchetti Towers.

Meanwhile, if I were to speculate, I'd think there's a great impetus for SLU to build new residential. Their 2 new dorm towers on Laclede (Grand Hall and Spring Hall) have both been impressive and can easily be said to have increased quality of life measures for students. There is much development going on near SLU, including the City Foundry, the rehab of the Armory, and everything Cortex. Land prices have been going up. As well, there's talk of redeveloping the depressed lanes of Forest Park Parkway at Grand (like what was done at FPP at Kingshighway), which would be highly disruptive to SLU students who reside at Reinert Hall (SW of the intersection, next to 64/40). Making a pure guess here, with no backing, and not wanting to start rumors: If I was in charge, I'd build new dorms on what's now the Grand Forest Apartments (the 2-story buildings clustered west of Chaifetz Arena); sell Reinert Hall to private developers in the wing; and immediately back roadway redevelopment of Grand at Forest Park Parkway.

I've heard rumors that SLU is looking to unload Reinert, which would fit with your theory. Grand Forest is in bad shape and needs to go.

dredger · PostJul 04, 2019#202019-07-04T19:45+00:00

billikens&bricks wrote:
gone corporate wrote: Meanwhile, if I were to speculate, I'd think there's a great impetus for SLU to build new residential. Their 2 new dorm towers on Laclede (Grand Hall and Spring Hall) have both been impressive and can easily be said to have increased quality of life measures for students. There is much development going on near SLU, including the City Foundry, the rehab of the Armory, and everything Cortex. Land prices have been going up. As well, there's talk of redeveloping the depressed lanes of Forest Park Parkway at Grand (like what was done at FPP at Kingshighway), which would be highly disruptive to SLU students who reside at Reinert Hall (SW of the intersection, next to 64/40). Making a pure guess here, with no backing, and not wanting to start rumors: If I was in charge, I'd build new dorms on what's now the Grand Forest Apartments (the 2-story buildings clustered west of Chaifetz Arena); sell Reinert Hall to private developers in the wing; and immediately back roadway redevelopment of Grand at Forest Park Parkway.
This.

Also, while it will never happen, I'd also reconnect Theresa Ave. through SLU's campus as part of the Grand/FPP roadway redevelopment.

Take these thoughts, add in the recent dorm construction and you have the makings of a different vision and more urban vision for their campus. A nice departure from the stand alone arena and very different mentality from the days of SLU buying, demolishing and land banking around the medical campus to the south. Maybe, just maybe...

pattimagee · PostSep 09, 2019#212019-09-09T18:46+00:00

I'm going to make a prediction. They just demo'd the electrical station just north of the Foundry at 3755 Laclede - right next to the hotel they are building over there also (from the consolidation mentioned upthread).

SLU just increased their freshmen class by 1900+ new students

Feels like the perfect spot for new dorms that can see into the foundry.

chriss752 · PostSep 09, 2019#222019-09-09T21:36+00:00

I got a message the other day saying that Paddy O's is looking to buy Humphrey's and reopen it. This could be a good thing.

debaliviere · PostSep 10, 2019#232019-09-10T15:31+00:00

chriss752 wrote:I got a message the other day saying that Paddy O's is looking to buy Humphrey's and reopen it. This could be a good thing.

I need this to happen. Someone needs to reopen that bar. With the closing of the Library Annex, there's no real competition for SLU students.

BillikenLifer · PostSep 16, 2019#242019-09-16T02:50+00:00

chriss752 wrote:I got a message the other day saying that Paddy O's is looking to buy Humphrey's and reopen it. This could be a good thing.

Amazing. Long overdue.

hebeters2 · PostNov 08, 2019#252019-11-08T05:19+00:00

Is student housing's party over?
https://www.educationdive.com/news/is-s ... er/566727/