Bangert Island

beer city · PostJan 30, 2019#12019-01-30T22:10+00:00

St. Charles seeks to expand its urban district, this will continue the Streets of St Charles towards the river

A few years a developer proposed a similar type of development called San Carlos - I believe the ask in incentives was way too high -

This could be a great development my guess is the images here are more massing study then actual design

For all of the shore line we have lack of actual riverfront development that we have is a missed opportunity

https://www.bangertisland.com/

RockChalkSTL · PostMay 01, 2019#22019-05-01T13:27+00:00

This would completely transform their riverfront.

framer · PostMay 01, 2019#32019-05-01T16:45+00:00

Update in today's PD:

https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/sta ... op-story-2

PostMay 01, 2019#42019-05-01T16:50+00:00

^Just to be clear, the land to the right in that photo is the actual "island", which contains a park and will not change. They hope to expand and stabilize the channel to the left of the island, creating something like the San Antonio Riverwalk (their words). The land to the left of the channel would then be available for development.

Ebsy · PostMay 02, 2019#52019-05-02T04:53+00:00

Is this not in a floodplain? Why on earth should taxpayers pay $2 million to assist St. Charles while just making flooding along the rest of the river worse?

Black02AltimaSE · PostMay 02, 2019#62019-05-02T13:47+00:00

I think the floodplain is mainly on the Maryland Heights side of the river at this point. The St. Charles side runs up hill pretty quick. As long as they account for higher water levels in the construction, I don't think they would have to worry too much and I don't think it would have any impacts up or down stream (like the Valley Park levy has had).

Tim · PostMay 02, 2019#72019-05-02T14:20+00:00

Here's a map of the floodplain in this area. The 100-year floodplain is blue. 500-year is orange. The stripes are the designated floodway.

While their work probably wouldn't have as severe of an effect on flooding as many of the larger levees in the area, it appears it would still be encroaching on the floodplain, which extends all the way up to S. Main Street.

walker · PostMay 02, 2019#82019-05-02T15:34+00:00

^ Great map, @Tim !

dredger · PostMay 02, 2019#92019-05-02T21:15+00:00

Interesting project. Can also agree why and the heck the state would, should throw a couple million dollars at it in the state budget when well within in means of St Charles County to support through local taxes.

Thanks to Tim's efforts above. You get a visualization on how some of the flood plain and wetland can be restored in dredging out the slough and restoring a good part of the original island, offer unique development opportunity and get some improvements in place for existing park. However, like everything else it is devil in the details and looking forward to continuation of this thread.

sc4mayor · PostMay 02, 2019#102019-05-02T21:45+00:00

Messenger's take:

https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/col ... op-story-2

STLEnginerd · PostMay 03, 2019#112019-05-03T04:01+00:00

I don't know I like phase I and a maybe on phase 2. Feel lik phase 3 is probably not a good idea. But since phase 3s almost never happen in St. Louis I say go for it.

symphonicpoet · PostMay 03, 2019#122019-05-03T07:01+00:00

You know, I think I like Messenger's sense of humor. Guys got a good wit on him.

sc4mayor · PostMay 03, 2019#132019-05-03T14:21+00:00

^ Yeah, I'm a fan. He's a good dude.

framer · PostNov 16, 2019#142019-11-16T03:35+00:00

St. Charles missed out on a $10 million federal grant, but they're still moving forward with this project:

https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/stc ... 56e60.html

sc4mayor · PostAug 14, 2020#152020-08-14T17:43+00:00

This project continues to move forward:
https://www.stltoday.com/business/local ... 85162.html

Basically an extension of the "faux urban" Streets of St. Charles down to the waterfront. Bangert Island will remain a forested island and park. There may be a boardwalk built from the mainland to the island, however. Here is the Riverpointe website:
https://www.riverpointe-stc.com/

Phase One:

Phase One rendering:

Phase Two:

Phase Two rendering:

Phase Three:

Phase One rendering from the PD with relation to Streets of St. Charles.

framer · PostAug 14, 2020#162020-08-14T21:00+00:00

More info here:

https://www.constructforstl.org/st-char ... evelopers/

bwcrow1s · PostAug 15, 2020#172020-08-15T13:17+00:00

sc4mayor wrote: ↑
Aug 14, 2020
Phase One rendering:

I will say that building does look beautiful. If St. Charles can get all brick clad on that huge building, we need to push back in the City.

Laife Fulk · PostAug 15, 2020#182020-08-15T16:52+00:00

I believe all of those renderings are just conceptual in nature. They were done a few years ago so what eventually gets built could be completely different, and the clad brick is probably a best case scenario. In reality, I fully expect the final designs and exteriors to be identical to what's in the Streets of St. Charles.

GoHarvOrGoHome · PostAug 17, 2020#192020-08-17T14:52+00:00

Looks good, St. Charles is smart to expand its walkable riverfront. They can see the writing on the wall in the form of other aging suburbs to the east.

Hopefully the slowly liberalising St. Charles can eventually extend metrolink across the river. The case gets stronger with every dense building they add here. Would love to see it eventually cross at the old St. Charles Rock Rd (or further north on one of the existing bridges,) then follow the Katy Trail all the way down to the Family Arena.

framer · PostSep 15, 2020#202020-09-15T04:45+00:00

St. Louis Magazine:

https://www.stlmag.com/news/what-is-the ... SBKOEBn_sY

beer city · PostDec 04, 2020#212020-12-04T06:15+00:00

The basin is now gone from the project

St. Charles’ Riverpointe project proceeds, with some changes, despite pandemic – Mid Rivers Newsmagazine
https://midriversnewsmagazine.com/2020/12/01/86516/construction-on-st-charles-riverpointe-project-proceeds-despite-pandemic?fbclid=IwAR127cCqQGLjpI9MFfZ1Ju5RUaXk82YfV7KXTYaS56gM5q1AiRlhZ52MfOY

chriss752 · PostOct 23, 2021#222021-10-23T17:47+00:00

New images...

Ebsy · PostOct 23, 2021#232021-10-23T22:45+00:00

Hope it all drops into the river.

chriss752 · PostOct 24, 2021#242021-10-24T16:20+00:00

It's not made clear in any planning and zoning document submitted to the City of St. Charles, but I suspect that CRG will be the master developer behind this (similar to how they're involved at WIldhorse Village). The Lamar Johnson Collaborative is the architect and the ones who made these renderings, so it would make some sense to have integrated involvement here. Whether or not CRG takes on that role is yet to be seen or confirmed but you never know.

I do expect this to get done because it is St. Charles and the West Suburbs are still growing like weeds, but I really hope that this project, Wildhorse Village, and Downtown Chesterfield don't destroy Downtown St. Louis. I doubt they will since the people who will visit these "downtowns" aren't the same type of people that would visit Downtown St. Louis for anything other than a Blues and Cardinals game. But you never know until it's done I guess.

pop_scientist · PostOct 24, 2021#252021-10-24T17:07+00:00

chriss752 wrote: ↑
Oct 24, 2021
I do expect this to get done because it is St. Charles and the West Suburbs are still growing like weeds, but I really hope that this project, Wildhorse Village, and Downtown Chesterfield don't destroy Downtown St. Louis. I doubt they will since the people who will visit these "downtowns" aren't the same type of people that would visit Downtown St. Louis for anything other than a Blues and Cardinals game. But you never know until it's done I guess.

It definitely feels like the metro St. Louis area has adopted the LA / DC style of development...spread out pockets of development instead of a larger urban core.

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