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Green Street proposing mixed-use development in Creve Coeur

Green Street proposing mixed-use development in Creve Coeur

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PostApr 26, 2023#1

I didn't see a thread on this, if one exist, please merge.

Mixed-use development, with apartments and hotel, would replace aging Creve Coeur shopping center in plan from Green Street

Green Street Real Estate Ventures plans a new apartment complex, hotel, retail space and a pedestrian plaza on a 10-acre site, including the existing Creve Coeur Plaza shopping center at 700 N. New Ballas Road, according to a concept plan the company submitted to the city.

The project would consist of nine new buildings, including a 270-unit apartment complex, a 76,300-square-foot hotel, two parking garages and a public “town center” space with a plaza and pocket park, according to the proposal. The plan also identifies 37,750 square feet of retail space.
“The development will be a vibrant, walkable, urban environment with a prominent gathering place,” Toby Martin, Green Street COO, said in its application to the city. “As proposed, this site concept plan will increase density and more thoughtfully activate a prominent site with high visibility.”
The Creve Coeur Planning and Zoning Commission will meet Monday to examine the concept, according to a public notice. If it approves, the developer would submit full plans at a later date, the city said.
A spokeswoman for Green Street said the firm would not give any more details on the development than can be found in the city filings, including the cost and financing, ahead of the public meeting Monday.
The shopping center, which spans 5 acres and dates to 1970, is owned by Creve Coeur Plaza Associates LLC, tied to Thomas R. Martin, along with a Green Street-related entity identified as GS 11700 Olive Investors LLC. St. Louis County last year had an appraised value for the shopping center of $8.7 million, according to county records. At one point in 2015, St. Louis startup Selequity, which developed a crowdfunding platform for real estate investors, took a $2.58 million investment stake in Creve Coeur Plaza, in one of the startup's first transactions.
https://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/news/2023/04/26/creve-coeur-plaza-redevelopment-apartments-hotel.html

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PostApr 26, 2023#2

Seems fine to me.

Prediction:
#1 complaint by opponents will be increase in traffic.

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PostApr 27, 2023#3

I see this as an overall improvement over what is there, but wish the residential fronted Ballas the way King's Landing does.  With going to an out parcel retail strategy it forces them to push the residential back.  Seems like they are trying to make up for this flaw with a pocket park and slapping a "town center" marketing label on the whole thing. 

And as a DIY Lawn Lord, I will miss Milbradt Lawn Equipment.  And those apartments will love being directly behind the firehouse. 

PostApr 27, 2023#4

And yes, I get that it is decent because the retail is street fronting, but still. 

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PostApr 27, 2023#5

I mean yeah its a little underwhelming but you can't really make Olive a walkable street.  Way too many cars moving way too fast.  There is no realistic way to move it in a positive direction because its a major arterial and there would be vehement opposition.  Better off turning you back to it and orienting to a street that can actually be pleasant.

If they can make New Ballas and Studt a walkable intersection I'd consider that a big step.  Even there this plan could do better but meh its ok.