Don't know if anyone has been there yet, but I went there for dinner last night, and it was outstanding. Great pasta, great salad, great price - we got two large meals for under $20, and it was delicious. They also have smaller portions and sandwiches for lunch, and it looks like the menu has something for everyone. Definitely worth checking out for a cheap meal.



At 7:00 last night, the place was mostly full, so I guess business has been brisk. Having more Webster students in the OPO will only help them. They should clean up during the Final Four.

outstanding and packed for lunch too. EXCELLENT prices as well.

I had lunch at the 10th Street Italian the other day. It was my first time there. Great food, but the dining area was a little small. The guy behind the register said it can get pretty crowded in there at times. He said once the weather gets nicer, they plan to add 5-6 tables outside on the sidewalk. I know Breve Espresso Cafe', just a little further down at 417 North 10th Street, has outside tables in warmer weather. Should be nice!

Well, DeBaliviere, you're going to be smack dab between two locations now!



I don't get there as often as I'd like, but I really like this place!

ThreeOneFour wrote:Well, DeBaliviere, you're going to be smack dab between two locations now!



I don't get there as often as I'd like, but I really like this place!

I'll still patronize the DT store though - it's perfect for dinnertime carry-out.

^ That makes sense. It's good to know there will be another good quality establishment in the hinterlands if I'm ever out in that direction, though.

Yeah - we used to get their dinner special as takeout all the time. 2 pastas, 2 salads (or soups), some garlic bread, and 2 of those great cookies for a little over $20. Great deal, but unforunately they've discontinued it...but it's still one of our favorite places. Best meatballs in town.

let me second that: the meatballs and the cookies at 10th street are out of control good. also check out the italian beef sandwich -- you will not be disappointed.

stlterp wrote:Yeah - we used to get their dinner special as takeout all the time. 2 pastas, 2 salads (or soups), some garlic bread, and 2 of those great cookies for a little over $20. Great deal, but unforunately they've discontinued it...but it's still one of our favorite places. Best meatballs in town.

We used to get the dinner special too, but then we realized that one huge order of pasta and a salad are plenty of food for two people!

10th Street is one of my favorite establishments downtown. The food is very good for a reasonable price and its fairly quick. I hope they are not discouraged by the lack of weekend night business. I think that in time they will be able to sustain longer hours.

The dinner special was great, because it was plenty of food for dinner and at least lunch the next day...

Another downtown restaurant forgets downtown residents.



10th Street Italian - a favorite that I visit at least 1-2 times a week for either dinner or lunch, and a favorite of many I know - has cut hours to close at 3 PM (although I was turned away today around 2:30 by the sight of all the chairs inside being put up).



Disappointing. I expected better from such a fantastic place.

1000washington wrote:Another downtown restaurant forgets downtown residents. Disappointing. I expected better from such a fantastic place.

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Would you rather them close down altogether? They probably understand their cost and revenue structure better than Joe Shmuckatelli.

JuiceInDogtown wrote:Unfortunately, I think it's safe to say that if the business was making money for dinner, they wouldn't start closing at 3pm. I might agree that they should at least give it a shot if they are a brand new place, but if they tried, you can't blame'm.

Exactly. I can think of other downtown businesses that don't stay open as long as I'd like. I'd like to get a latte at Espresso Mod in the evening, or go shopping at Macy's or some of the other newer downtown stores after 6 p.m., but business owners/managers know better than any of us what their business is like at various times of the day. So I don't see the point in complaining about it when there just isn't enough critical mass (yet) to warrant later hours in many cases.



What could and should be done, however, is something to entice people to come and/or stay downtown in the evening hours.



This is probably worthy of its own thread, but I heard a story on KTVI this morning about downtown parking. Apparently Mayor Slay posted on his blog about the possibility of rolling back the number of hours during which parking meters are enforced in downtown to encourage more activity during happy hour.



It sounds like the mayor would have his hands tied to an extent as much of the power to make changes rests in the hands of the city treasurer (KTVI reporter John Brown referred to him as the parking czar- very appropriate IMHO). That said, even this one step might make a difference in convincing people to stay downtown for dinner and/or a drink before heading home (or people like me who don't work downtown to get there a little sooner and do some shopping along with getting dinner and a drink somewhere). It's something the mayor intends to discuss with the Downtown Partnership- along with an effort to convince downtown businesses to keep later hours- and it's a step in the right direction IMHO.

ThreeOneFour wrote:
This is probably worthy of its own thread, but I heard a story on KTVI this morning about downtown parking. Apparently Mayor Slay posted on his blog about the possibility of rolling back the number of hours during which parking meters are enforced in downtown to encourage more activity during happy hour.



It sounds like the mayor would have his hands tied to an extent as much of the power to make changes rests in the hands of the city treasurer (KTVI reporter John Brown referred to him as the parking czar- very appropriate IMHO). That said, even this one step might make a difference in convincing people to stay downtown for dinner and/or a drink before heading home (or people like me who don't work downtown to get there a little sooner and do some shopping along with getting dinner and a drink somewhere). It's something the mayor intends to discuss with the Downtown Partnership- along with an effort to convince downtown businesses to keep later hours- and it's a step in the right direction IMHO.

So I'm the fella that emailed my complaint to the mayor about the double parking ticket. I went on to ask why in the hell they stop enforcing meters at 4 or 4:30 during teh week to entice both DT workers to stick around for HH, or for me to convince some friends to join me and not have to worry about stepping out and pumping money into a meter or worry about getting a $30.00 ticket. Who knows if it will go anywhere but I was pretty excited to see his response, especially since I sent the email late Tuesday afternoon.

ChrisInDownTown wrote:So I'm the fella that emailed my complaint to the mayor about the double parking ticket. I went on to ask why in the hell they stop enforcing meters at 4 or 4:30 during teh week to entice both DT workers to stick around for HH, or for me to convince some friends to join me and not have to worry about stepping out and pumping money into a meter or worry about getting a $30.00 ticket. Who knows if it will go anywhere but I was pretty excited to see his response, especially since I sent the email late Tuesday afternoon.

Excellent- now we know we have you to thank for bringing this to the mayor's attention! And let's give Hizzoner props where they're due- that was a quick response!



So in less than 24 hours, you got the attention of Mayor Slay and KTVI, so I'd say that's a great beginning.



I've long thought that various issues with on-street parking (hours, valet spaces, yellow curbs, driving lanes that could and should be converted into more street parking) are what hampers business activity downtown, especially after thousands of people leave their offices each weekday evening. I've also thought that the city treasurer has way too much influence over parking regulations. It seems like it's overly complicated to make changes, and that's not good in a downtown environment that is changing fast due to recent growth in the number of residents and businesses.



Because of the way that the City of St. Louis' government works, I realize it will be probably be difficult for Mayor Slay to bring about sweeping changes, but I like that he quickly acknowledged your concerns and plans to bring the matter up when he talks with the Downtown Partnership later this week.

1000Washington, you need to stop saying businesses do not support residents because they close early. You do not know their individual economics of being open late. As far as downtown has come, there still are not enough residents eating out at night to keep every place open. Especially in a time like this.

MattnSTL wrote:As far as downtown has come, there still are not enough residents eating out at night to keep every place open. Especially in a time like this.

Also factor in the massive cuts at Macy's Midwest/May Company that took place last year, and the critical mass required just isn't quite 'there' yet.



Of course there have still been significant gains in the number of residents and overall businesses in the last couple of years, but as you said, in these economic times businesspeople literally cannot afford to stay open for customers that simply aren't going to be there.

1000washington wrote:Another downtown restaurant forgets downtown residents.



10th Street Italian - a favorite that I visit at least 1-2 times a week for either dinner or lunch, and a favorite of many I know - has cut hours to close at 3 PM (although I was turned away today around 2:30 by the sight of all the chairs inside being put up).



Disappointing. I expected better from such a fantastic place.

This is pretty selfish thinking 1000. In this economy, if companies continue on business as usual in 2009 the same way as in 2008, they likley won't make it. I know in my business we are doing a lot of restructuring (not one person has been let go!) and throwing pounds of sh*t against the wall just to see what sticks.

dweebe wrote:I think 10th Street Italian tried evening hours when they first opened but couldn't get enough business to justify staying open. I want to say my first visit there was a dinner when it was dark out.

They made a go of it for quite a while, actually - this must have been a fairly recent decision. My wife and I would often pick up carry-out from there for dinner on our way home from work.