Peacock Loop Diner, 6261 Delmar Boulevard

quincunx · PostAug 04, 2014#12014-08-04T18:22+00:00

The website says opening in September. For those keeping score it is in University City.

A 24-hour diner serving breakfast classics, diner staples, Asian favorites, a selection of salads and vegetarian/vegan dishes as well as an array of desserts including pie! Oh, and spiked milkshakes and a full bar!

Website:
http://peacockloopdiner.com/

Facebook
https://www.facebook.com/PeacockLoopDiner

Twitter:
https://twitter.com/peacockdiner

St. Louis Magazine - Colorful Details: Joe and Hope Edwards Expound on the Peacock Loop Diner--and each other
http://www.stlmag.com/dining/colorful-d ... he-peacoc/

PostOct 10, 2014#22014-10-10T14:13+00:00

Peacock Loop Diner @PeacockDiner

We are opening our doors at Peacock Loop Diner on Friday, October 10 at 5:00 pm! We’d love to see you http://ht.ly/CyOwm
#24hour #diner

PostOct 11, 2014#32014-10-11T01:24+00:00

Somehow the word got out, and they were swamped tonight. My slinger was good and served on a fluffy waffle. Wished the milkshake were bigger like at Fitz's. Might want to give them a few days to find their stride or go at an off-peak time.

dweebe · PostOct 11, 2014#42014-10-11T05:48+00:00

I know it's minor: but could an moderator please edit the subject?

roger wyoming II · PostOct 11, 2014#52014-10-11T15:36+00:00

^ I think quincunx can also correct the spelling on the subject line.

quincunx · PostOct 11, 2014#62014-10-11T17:44+00:00

Look like I fixed it

wustl_eng · PostOct 11, 2014#72014-10-11T18:09+00:00

At what point do they just rename it "Joe Edwards' Delmar Loop"? Gotta give it to the guy, looks like a pretty cool place. Love the U-shaped counters.

Side note, anyone venture a guess as to Joe's net worth? Kind of a trivial question but it'd be interesting to know; it's like everything he touches turns to gold. Is there another example in a city of someone who literally built and owns pretty much a whole dining/entertainment district?

wabash · PostOct 11, 2014#82014-10-11T19:05+00:00

Dan Gilbert is doing it on a larger scale in Downtown Detroit (it helps that he's probably at least 100x wealthier than Edwards).

Truly is amazing what Edwards has done with the Loop. I'm looking forward to the Phase II Loop Lofts announcement and to trying out Peacock Diner.

DogtownBnR · PostOct 16, 2014#92014-10-16T12:55+00:00

^Dan Gilbert has been a great citizen to Detroit. If we only had a guy like this!

Detroit initiatives:

Quicken Loans moved its headquarters and 1,700 of its team members to downtown Detroit in August 2010, where Gilbert and the company are helping lead a revitalization of Detroit’s urban core.[3] Today, Gilbert-owned businesses employ 11,500 people in the city.

In 2011, Gilbert's Rock Ventures group purchased several buildings in downtown Detroit, including the historic Madison Theatre Building,[26] Chase Tower and Two Detroit Center (parking garage),[27] Dime Building (renamed Chrysler House),[28] First National Building[29] and three smaller buildings on Woodward Avenue.[30] In 2012, Rock Ventures, the umbrella entity formed to provide operational coordination, guidance and integration of Gilbert’s portfolio of companies, investments and real estate, purchased the former Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago Detroit Branch Building,[31] One Woodward Avenue, 1201 Woodward (Kresge Building), and five smaller buildings on Woodward Avenue and Broadway Street, totaling 630,000 square feet of commercial space in downtown Detroit.[32] In 2013, Rock Ventures purchase the 1001 Woodward office tower, several smaller buildings in the downtown area and announced, along with The Downtown Detroit Partnership and the Detroit Economic Growth Group, a placemaking plan for Detroit's urban core.

Rock Ventures' downtown Detroit real estate investments include more than 60 properties (buildings and/or store fronts) totaling 9 million square feet. Four million square feet is commercial space; another 3.6 million square feet is parking (10,096 parking spaces).

roger wyoming II · PostOct 16, 2014#102014-10-16T13:23+00:00

^ And its not just Gilbert. Ilitch saved the Fox Theater from demo in the 80s and moved his operation there... he has accumulated a ton of properties since then and after receiving some McKee-like criticism for sitting on them for so long and tearing down some, he finally is pulling the trigger on the 45 block mixed-use arena project. We need better billionaires.... I'd love to fork over $300 million in stadium incentives if that meant Kroenke reclaimed a dead part of greater downtown with a well-planned mixed-use redevelopment. We could even call the district "The Kroenk."

RedOctober · PostOct 16, 2014#112014-10-16T13:41+00:00

You have to remember Ilitch did get a significant hand out from the city and state to proceed with his 45 block project. BPV didn't get much of a hand out like Ilitch's project or KC's PLD did. If BPV gotten the same i would think most of it be built out by now however i do feel the city itself balked on the BPV project cause what we have there now is still a bunch of nonsense. I do kind of wish JE would invest more in downtown than the loop cause development of the loop is going to happen with or without him its that popular. So yes i wish this new Peacock Diner was in downtown near his Flamingo Bowl. Other than that i'll definitely have to go in and check it out sometime.

roger wyoming II · PostOct 16, 2014#122014-10-16T13:54+00:00

^ yeah, it would be nice if Joe can make another investment or two downtown but what I'd really like to see is another Joe -- whoever that may be -- build west from the CWE west and meet him Debalivere. Let's rebuild that great, high potential corridor! Put the billionaires to work downtown.

As for BPV, the subsidies will be quite high if/when all the phases are built. The difference in Detroit is that they are moving simultaneously with the stadium and larger entertainment district. For about $250 million in public incentive, Detroit should be receiving a new hockey arena and a potentially transformative mixed-use entertainment/office/residential district by 2017. That's the kind of deal I'd like to see with the Rams.... it has to be more than just a pleasure palace itself.

south compton · PostOct 16, 2014#132014-10-16T14:26+00:00

roger wyoming II wrote:^ yeah, it would be nice if Joe can make another investment or two downtown but what I'd really like to see is another Joe -- whoever that may be -- build west from the CWE west and meet him Debalivere. Let's rebuild that great, high potential corridor! Put the billionaires to work downtown.

As for BPV, the subsidies will be quite high if/when all the phases are built. The difference in Detroit is that they are moving simultaneously with the stadium and larger entertainment district. For about $250 million in public incentive, Detroit should be receiving a new hockey arena and a potentially transformative mixed-use entertainment/office/residential district by 2017. That's the kind of deal I'd like to see with the Rams.... it has to be more than just a pleasure palace itself.

They'll get the arena and a few bars, but I doubt the mixed-use district will be on its feet by 2017. Even with public subsidies, there has to be market demand. With TIF, developers generally have to advance the funds for construction and be reimbursed as tax dollars are generated (or at least until there is a steady enough stream of tax revenues to support the issuance of bonds). Illitch may have some great drawings and a lot of cash, but he's not going to build $500 million of potentially empty buildings. Hopefully the market demand materializes someday, but 2017 isn't realistic.

downtown2007 · PostOct 16, 2014#142014-10-16T14:36+00:00

I agree. Something like the Peacock diner would be a great fit downtown on Wash Ave. The old 12th street diner is still vacant and would be a good fit. We need more 20 hour quick easy places for a bite to eat downtown.

roger wyoming II · PostOct 16, 2014#152014-10-16T14:45+00:00

^ Good idea. btw, anyone know what Space may have in store for its "downtown restaurant concept"?

^^ Right, its doubtful the whole Ilitch project will get done by '17 but a good chunk of it will.... the residential portion isn't that big at the moment and the Midtown/Downtown demand for housing is quite strong. It will be unlike BPV where the stadium was built and then years later the entertainment portion came. And comparing it back to McKee, the Ilitches have called it the culmination of their life's work, as do the McKees with Northside Regeneration. But they have more money and a much clearer and reasonable vision that can be implemented in the short and medium term.

(I'm also sure that in addition to market forces determining how much office demand there'll be for the project, the impact of the entertainment portion on existing bars/restaurants elsewhere will arise.)

quincunx · PostOct 16, 2014#162014-10-16T20:01+00:00

STL Business Journal - Inside Joe Edwards’ new $1 million Peacock Loop Diner (Video)

http://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/blog ... -loop.html

PostOct 17, 2014#172014-10-17T19:45+00:00

RFT - A Look Inside Peacock Loop Diner, University City's New 24-Hour Dining Destination

http://blogs.riverfronttimes.com/gutche ... _diner.php

PostJan 08, 2025#182025-01-08T16:42+00:00

StlMag reports it's closed. Its 10 year lease is up.

delmar2debaliviere2downtown · PostJan 08, 2025#192025-01-08T16:46+00:00

It was not good food but honestly I would stop by there for a coffee or dessert just because the sign was cool and I liked the street front interaction and wanted it to stay open for the Loop’s sake.

The Loop has became one of the better neon stretches in the country that I’ve been to. So I hope a new concept is able to deliver a better product, whether a bar or restaurant or something else, and retain the retro interior and neon.

DogtownBnR · PostJan 08, 2025#202025-01-08T17:04+00:00

Considering the location, the residential and foot traffic, other than poor management, poor service or a covid hangover, I can't see how this concept did not work. I guess if the food sucked, it would fail. Seems like new management and increased quality would fix the issue. Agree, hope this space is revamped and the current name, signage and decor' are kept intact.

quincunx · PostJan 08, 2025#212025-01-08T17:14+00:00

I very much wanted it to succeed. When my buddy and I would walk the loop in times of yore 24-hour diner was tops on our things the Loop needed list. I think the space was too big too.

I hope Kingside Express is doing well. Love a good diner breakfast.

framer · PostJan 08, 2025#222025-01-08T18:41+00:00

I'll just echo what everyone else is saying; the food was really bad. You'd think an experienced restauranteur would see the problem and do something about it.

delmar2debaliviere2downtown · PostJan 08, 2025#232025-01-08T18:43+00:00

quincunx wrote: ↑
Jan 08, 2025
I very much wanted it to succeed. When my buddy and I would walk the loop in times of yore 24-hour diner was tops on our things the Loop needed list. I think the space was too big too.

I hope Kingside Express is doing well. Love a good diner breakfast.

Kingside is consistent at all 3 locations. Would like to see them try a downtown spot, along with some kind of chess set up since we don’t have that downtown as the Chess Capital.