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The Death of the St Louis Riverboat

The Death of the St Louis Riverboat

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PostNov 29, 2010#1

I was being dramatic. It's not dead yet, but I think it's obvious how many boats have left.

There doesn't seem to be any movement to bring back riverboats. Was there some issue with their presence? Was there a shared reason for the departure? It would be a huge loss to the character of the city to lose them all.

Riverboats in 1998/99?


McDonalds Riverboat


Casino Queen


The Admiral


Before the Admiral's move to the Landing


The Becky Thatcher and the Tom Sawyer

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PostNov 29, 2010#2

I agree with you, Xing. Our riverfront is anemic and pathetic! We are the preeminent river city of the United States, yet no one would know it today.

Don't forget the Goldenrod:


The Huck Finn:


The President:

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PostNov 29, 2010#3

I remember the McDonalds riverboat as a place I loved to go as a kid. My parents friends also owned a houseboat on one of the barges down there and us kids would play on the barges (very dangerous in retrospect...).

I imagine that they must be expensive or considered a liability. I've always had the idea of how amazing it would be to to have an old steamboat outfitted for live music and nice dinners that could either stay docked or go up and down the Mississippi. They could have theme nights where they'd play music of the 1920's or swing or whatever...and patrons could be encouraged to dress like the era.

Or maybe I've been watching too much Boardwalk Empire.

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PostNov 29, 2010#4

Who doesn't love a good riverboat?

...If there were money to be made on a riverboat, someone would be doing it? Probably the high insurance liability?

...There's a couple of great spots down at Jefferson Barracks, where my Army Reserve unit drills that has some amazing views of the M River set amongst WWII buildings and trees...Always thought the tremendous history of the Mississippi should/could be exploited...

...I remember some of these boats from the late 90s and frankly thought some of them parked in front of the Arch looked outta place and kinda trashy...Tho some of the pics above really are quite nice...

...A riverboat or two moored in front of Chouteau's Landing with something to commemorate the City's river history would be nice...KETC has aired some historical pieces put together in the 1950's that show actual footage of the hustle and bustle on the riverfront from the late 19th century...It looked pretty dirty and not a place to 'visit' but something to remember this history would make sense...

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PostNov 29, 2010#5

Speaking of riverfront fast food, don't forget there's also a Taco Bell at the bottom of the river (or was at one point; all else I could find was a 1995 P-D article talking about it posing a navigation hazard). It sunk when it and a Burger King broke loose from the moorings in 1993 and hit the Poplar Street Bridge...

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PostNov 29, 2010#6

Admiral aside, i don't miss any of those trashy barges.
it'd be nice to have a few tour boats, though. but not ones with fake paddle wheels and junk slapped on.

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PostNov 29, 2010#7

If the Arch grounds really were meant to be the Jefferson National Expansion blah blah blah the site should have several steamers tied up as part of the NP.




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PostNov 29, 2010#8

^why?...unless those smokey old boats are hiding wheels, they wouldnt be much use headed west...

Neat pictures, just not sure how 'park-like' they are...

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PostNov 29, 2010#9

They were a huge help heading west. How do you think everybody got here in order to then head further west?
There should probably be more about the fur trade as well.

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PostNov 29, 2010#10

We could light them on fire every May 17th. Think of the tourists it would draw!

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PostNov 29, 2010#11

The Central Scrutinizer wrote:We could light them on fire every May 17th. Think of the tourists it would draw!
That would give a great sense of the time. Maybe let a few blocks go up with it.


I'd hate to see the prairie dogs and the bison suffer however.

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PostNov 30, 2010#12

^lol...actually a good idea if we had a few tanker trucks of Maull's to put the flames out...

...Of what little reading I have done, the river history is amazingly rich, entertaining and important (unless you were a minority of course, but we're seeing how all of that works out in the end (pretty darn good with miles to go IMO))...I'm not sure everyone who went west jumped on a riverboat in NOLA or Memphis and rode up to St. Louis...I thought many loaded up wagon trains, fueled up in St. Louis, then the smart ones stayed behind to make money and a decent life in the Lou while all the loony people took off west?? lol

But there is no question almost all early and mid 19th century prosperity and growth in St. Louis was due to river trading which put St. Louis square in the middle of everything...then the train and Chicago came...

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PostDec 01, 2010#13

Wooah woah wait a second... How many fast food riverboats did we have? I obviously remember the McDonalds boat, I kind of remember the Burger King boat, but we had a Taco Bell boat?

We just lost the Casino Queen, and we're losing the last few? When I was younger, I remember quite a few boats, and when I look at old photos I once wondered why they were angled. I know now it's because they had so many then. :(

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PostDec 01, 2010#14

There's just not as much demand to have moored boats to the riverfront today. Unless they're actually cruising up & down the river as excursion boats, they look little more than tourist traps.

Idea: A very good attraction would be a full riverboat in a dry-dock, set up like a museum piece. Visitors could view how the boat is put together, how the steam engines work the paddles, how comfortable they could be, the utility of them as cargo ships, and learn of their impact in developing this part of the US. Similar to how the Field Museum in Chicago can sport off a full Nazi sub (U-505), taken as a prize in the Atlantic.

Actually, this could be a great addition to the Museum of Westward Expansion...

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PostDec 01, 2010#15

Gone Corporate wrote:A very good attraction would be a full riverboat in a dry-dock, set up like a museum piece...Actually, this could be a great addition to the Museum of Westward Expansion...
In Baton Rouge, the USS Kidd is docked and serves as a mix of veteran's memorial and museum (link). It's a pretty popular attraction. The idea of a riverboat serving as an annex to the Museum of Westward Expansion seems plausible to me.

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PostDec 01, 2010#16

rbeedee wrote:In Baton Rouge, the USS Kidd is docked and serves as a mix of veteran's memorial and museum (link). It's a pretty popular attraction. The idea of a riverboat serving as an annex to the Museum of Westward Expansion seems plausible to me.
Clevland has a retired Great Lakes freighter on its waterfront and it does seem like a well-thought out steamboat museum would pull its weight here. Btw, it really is an awesome sight to see those big freighters navigate the Cuyahoga a.k.a. the Crooked River.

http://media.cleveland.com/metro/photo/ ... 89e6f1.jpg

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PostDec 02, 2010#17

Personally, I was referring to recreations of old 1800s riverboats not the shoddy things that house fast food places and the like. Museum pieces.
Riverboats are a huge part of St Louis, the West and US history and we already have a National Memorial here so it's not like you'd need to convince anyone to create a new museum.

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PostDec 02, 2010#18

Gone Corporate wrote:There's just not as much demand to have moored boats to the riverfront today. Unless they're actually cruising up & down the river as excursion boats, they look little more than tourist traps.

Idea: A very good attraction would be a full riverboat in a dry-dock, set up like a museum piece. Visitors could view how the boat is put together, how the steam engines work the paddles, how comfortable they could be, the utility of them as cargo ships, and learn of their impact in developing this part of the US. Similar to how the Field Museum in Chicago can sport off a full Nazi sub (U-505), taken as a prize in the Atlantic.

Actually, this could be a great addition to the Museum of Westward Expansion...
That sounds like a really good idea. If we can't keep the riverboats, we might as well create a riverboat museum in their memory.

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PostMay 30, 2015#19

5 years and no interest to follow up on Riverboats? That's sadder....