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St. Louis tries to curb bottled water use

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PostApr 10, 2008#1

St. Louis tries to curb bottled water use

Maria Hickey, KWMU



ST. LOUIS, MO. (2008-04-09) A national campaign to limit bottled water use has arrived in St. Louis and so far a handful of restaurants and the city have signed on.



The Schlafly Tap Room announced today (Monday) that it would no longer serve bottled water. Terrene , Pi, and MoKaBe's say they'll stick with tap water.



The Think Outside the Bottle campaign by Corporate Accountability International has already had success in cities like Seattle and San Francisco.



St. Louis Mayor Francis Slay plans to phase out city department contracts for bottled water.



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http://publicbroadcasting.net/kwmu/news ... ectionID=1

PostApr 10, 2008#2

another article - KMBC Kansas City



Restaurants To Stop Using Bottled Water



POSTED: 5:46 pm CDT April 9, 2008



ST. LOUIS -- Care for some water, fresh from the tap?



While sales of bottled water are booming in the United States, a handful of St. Louis restaurants on Wednesday joined the growing campaign nationwide to stop selling bottled water, instead serving customers the city's finest municipal drink -- tap water.



And St. Louis' government plans to stop buying bottled water later this year, asking employees instead to drink from the city supply -- borrowing a page from San Francisco and other American cities which have started similar practices. More and more large cities, like St. Louis and Atlanta, are adopting the “Think Outside the Bottle” campaign. Yet, smaller cities have yet to test the idea.



At a news conference at the Schlafly Tap Room brewpub in St. Louis, activists, restaurateurs and a city representative outlined the problems they see with the nation's bottled water consumption. They say less use of it will cut consumers' costs, reduce environmental waste and show a commitment to the public water supply.



"It's a lot easier to use something that's coming from across your kitchen instead of across the country," said Tim Embree, environmental aide to St. Louis Mayor Francis Slay. And, he pointed out, "We have the country's best tasting water." The U.S. Conference of Mayors decided last year that St. Louis had the best-tasting city water in a competition among more than 90 communities.



There's no question Americans love their bottled water, with about 29 gallons consumed per capita in 2007. Bottled water sold about $12 billion wholesale in the United States last year, up nearly 8 percent from the year before, according to the International Bottled Water Association, based in Alexandria, Va.



"It's unfortunate that some people are turning this into a bottled water versus tap water issue," said Joe Doss, president and CEO of the trade association.



He said bottled water companies view soda, juices and teas as their competitors in many cases, and he said the trade association doesn't disparage tap water.



"Bottled water is a safe, healthy, convenient beverage. Any actions, such as these, that would stop consumers from drinking a healthy beverage are not in the public interest," Doss said.



He said companies have been using lighter-weight plastic for containers, reducing the amount used to make the bottles, and pointed out plastic water bottles are recyclable.



Corporate Accountability International, a Boston-based nonprofit group that is spearheading the "Think Outside the Bottle Campaign," said up to 40 percent of bottled water in the United States and Canada is sourced from public tap water. However, Doss said purified bottled water is not just tap water, but undergoes additional processes before it is sold to consumers.



Deborah Lapidus, national organizer of the "Think Outside the Bottle" campaign, questioned why businesses are additionally processing quality tap water. "They're using energy to process already clean water," she said. And she said, some bottled waters are shipped thousands of miles, using up more energy.





"It's a product we essentially don't need because we have reliable drinking water coming out of our taps," Lapidus said. Drinking bottled water isn't a particularly difficult practice to change. "Take a glass, go to the tap, or use a refillable water bottle," she said.



Corporate Accountability International said about 22,000 people, including 1,000 in St. Louis, have pledged to opt for tap over bottled water. The group said it knows of about 30 cities, as well as about 30 restaurants that have taken action to cut or curb bottled water spending.



Last year, San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom banned city-funded purchases of bottled water and New York City launched a campaign called "Get Your Fill" to promote the benefits of tap water.



More:

http://www.kmbc.com/news/



In my original posts I posted full article - changed to partial with links... sorry about that. :wink:

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PostApr 10, 2008#3

I might be way off here, but isn't the high quality of St. Louis' tap water tied to the fact that A-B uses it in its brewing process? I heard that somewhere and it would make sense, but it could very well be apocryphal.

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PostApr 10, 2008#4

matguy70 wrote:In my original posts I posted full article - changed to partial with links... sorry about that. :wink:


it's good to be the moderator. :wink: :wink:

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PostApr 10, 2008#5

If I lived in Chicago, I would drink bottled water. STL definitely has the best H20

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PostApr 10, 2008#6

I refuse to waste money on bottled tap water. Good to see it's catching on.

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PostApr 10, 2008#7

matguy70 wrote:St. Louis tries to curb bottled water use

Maria Hickey, KWMU



ST. LOUIS, MO. (2008-04-09) A national campaign to limit bottled water use has arrived in St. Louis and so far a handful of restaurants and the city have signed on.



The Schlafly Tap Room announced today (Monday) that it would no longer serve bottled water. Terrene , Pi, and MoKaBe's say they'll stick with tap water.



The Think Outside the Bottle campaign by Corporate Accountability International has already had success in cities like Seattle and San Francisco.



St. Louis Mayor Francis Slay plans to phase out city department contracts for bottled water.



more:

http://publicbroadcasting.net/kwmu/news ... ectionID=1


Sigh. People are stupid.

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PostApr 10, 2008#8

"A person is smart. People are stupid".

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PostApr 10, 2008#9

Obviously Mayor Slay is simply trying to promote the domestic supply of award winning tap water, treated with the reverse osmosis process, blessed by Raymond Burke, and filtered with our own municipally Slay certified charcoal filters. Giraud, himself, took a few days off from Lambert and personally oversaw the latest batch.



I call this shameless promotion.



Ban SUV's then we can ban bottled water. Pass a gasoline tax for transit.



Let's help the environment? Please! End Sprawl! Take Metrobus!



First Yuppies were all into the bottled watter fad, now its cool to be green, yet cruise around in your Cadillac EXT and eat Kobe Beef which got here via a 747.



Get real, hypocrites.

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PostApr 10, 2008#10

bsever wrote:I might be way off here, but isn't the high quality of St. Louis' tap water tied to the fact that A-B uses it in its brewing process? I heard that somewhere and it would make sense, but it could very well be apocryphal.


When I worked at the A-B tour center, we always said that each brewery uses its own city's tap water, but it goes through a lot of filtration. So unless St. Louis Budweiser tastes different than, say, Jacksonville FL (whose water sux IMO..) then probably not.

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PostApr 10, 2008#11

Doug wrote:First Yuppies were all into the bottled watter fad, now its cool to be green
Good observation!





I think water in Fairview Heights sucks terribly. I have an office-type water cooler that I fill up at Wal Mart for like $1.68 (5 gallons).



Edit; Oops, I said Wal Mart. I meant "a locally owned grocer." :D

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PostApr 10, 2008#12

Doug wrote:Obviously Mayor Slay is simply trying to promote the domestic supply of award winning tap water, treated with the reverse osmosis process, blessed by Raymond Burke, and filtered with our own municipally Slay certified charcoal filters. Giraud, himself, took a few days off from Lambert and personally oversaw the latest batch.



I call this shameless promotion.



Ban SUV's then we can ban bottled water. Pass a gasoline tax for transit.



Let's help the environment? Please! End Sprawl! Take Metrobus!



First Yuppies were all into the bottled watter fad, now its cool to be green, yet cruise around in your Cadillac EXT and eat Kobe Beef which got here via a 747.



Get real, hypocrites.


"Shameless promotion" - that's almost as idiotic as your juvenile location motto under your name. Are you sure you aren't still in HS Doug?

I like STL water.

I would drive a Cadillac EXT if i could only afford one.

I love kobe beef.

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PostApr 10, 2008#13

This doesn't affect sparkling water, does it? If so, that's a problem.

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PostApr 10, 2008#14

innov8ion wrote:This doesn't affect sparkling water, does it? If so, that's a problem.


Doesn't sound like it, at least for the restaurants that are pledging to participate. Here's a blurb from the P-D:


Nearly 30 restaurants nationwide, however, have pledged to stop selling bottled water to consumers. In this area, the Schlafly Tap Room and Bottleworks, Pi, Terrene and MoKaBe's say the only water they will sell is sparkling water, cutting down on the plastic bottles that end up in the recycling bin or the trash.



"We have two filters on our main water lines," said John McElwain, owner of Terrene, in the Central West End, which has not sold plain bottled water since it opened two years ago. "It's something our customers appreciate. We're an eco-friendly restaurant, and this is one of the ways we can create a smaller footprint."



And, starting this spring, Embree said, City Hall will no longer buy bottled water for employees and plans to cancel the roughly $20,000 it has in contracts with area vendors.

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PostApr 10, 2008#15

Doug

I noticed in this thread you slammed yuppies for what you deem to be their faux green fads. Yet in the thread on Onesto Pizza you defend Organic food. Sorry, but if anything screams yuppie faux green fad it's organic. Ever count the SUVs in the parking lot at Whole Foods?

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PostApr 10, 2008#16

^ People eating their organic fruit while sipping on a $5 coffee at Starbucks and talking about global warming while squinting through their thickly-black-framed glasses make me laugh.

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PostApr 10, 2008#17

Juice13610 wrote:^ People eating their organic fruit while sipping on a $5 coffee at Starbucks and talking about global warming while squinting through their thickly-black-framed glasses make me laugh.


Hey, what do you have against black-framed glasses? :)

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PostApr 10, 2008#18

yeah, I may not be into the organic fad but I think the only people that fit Juice's 8:40 description are in Rush Limbaugh's Stereotypical Liberal Fantasy World :)

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PostApr 10, 2008#19

Juice - for your irreverent attack on those of us wearing thickly framed glasses, I now e-vite you to virtual fisticuffs. (psyche)



Tell me more about the Liberal Fantasy World; it sounds enchanting! Are there Unicorns wearing Obama t-shirts?

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PostApr 10, 2008#20

A certain family member of mine works for a pesticides company as a chemist. For a few years, I worked for the same company.



Do you know what Organophosphates and Pyrethroids do? Do you know how they work?



Do I want Bovine Growth Hormone in my dairy which the EU and Canada have banned?



I don't want them in my food. It's not a fad. It's called dangerous chemicals.



My only obvious hypocrisy is that I smoke. But I'm addicted and I attempt quitting many times per year.



My argument against banning bottled water is that if you are going to advocate for the environment then work for what will actually have an impact. Automobile usage is a much more realistic cause.

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PostApr 10, 2008#21

Doug wrote:My argument against banning bottled water is that if you are going to advocate for the environment then work for what will actually have an impact. Automobile usage is a much more realistic cause.


But that ignores the impact of the bottles themselves.

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PostApr 10, 2008#22

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Doug wrote:My argument against banning bottled water is that if you are going to advocate for the environment then work for what will actually have an impact. Automobile usage is a much more realistic cause.


But that ignores the impact of the bottles themselves.


and the painfully obvious fact that there is no viable, mass-transit alternative yet established in our lovely city. Furthermore, the average St. Louisan is more apt to give up the their bottle habit before they give up there auto habit.

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PostApr 10, 2008#23

^exactly! I'm not fond of the amount of driving I need to do every day. But unless I want to spend 90+ minutes each way to get to and from work I NEED to do it.

I don't need to drink bottled water. Refilling my water jug every day with tap water rather than purchasing $2 a pop bottles is something I can realistically do to save myself some money and save some space in the landfill.

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PostApr 10, 2008#24

Doug wrote:My argument against banning bottled water is that if you are going to advocate for the environment then work for what will actually have an impact. Automobile usage is a much more realistic cause.


It doesn't have to be one or the other. Advocating against bottled water doesn't preclude steps that can be taken in other areas. It may not be as beneficial overall as increasing mass transit, but it's still beneficial and a step in the right direction. If we jump on people who are taking good steps because they aren't taking other good steps instead then its just going to turn them off from making any good steps.

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PostApr 10, 2008#25

I simply think that some people take these small steps simply to be "green," yet ignore their other habits which are, in the aggregate, far more destructive.

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