urbanSTL

Doug wrote:I simply think that some people take these small steps simply to be "green," yet ignore their other habits which are, in the aggregate, far more destructive.

Same here. But if it comes down to someone from Chesterfield driving a Tahoe AND drinking bottled water or driving a Tahoe and drinking tap water, the latter is still preferable.

Nothing wrong with thickly framed black glasses, they are pretty common. But that doesn't mean they aren't extra popular amongst the yups.

Juice13610 wrote:Nothing wrong with thickly framed black glasses, they are pretty common. But that doesn't mean they aren't extra popular amongst the yups.

Juice, are you not a yuppie wannabe?

young - check

urban - looking to locate in the city

professional - check

affluent - not yet

Young, yes

Urban, trying

Professional, yes



But I don't attempt to fit in to the "yuppie lifestyle." A night out on the town is going out to eat with my wife and son and finishing off with some ice cream.

Juice13610 wrote:
But I don't attempt to fit in to the "yuppie lifestyle." A night out on the town is going out to eat with my wife and son and finishing off with some ice cream.

Yikes.

I think you have to be careful when defining "yuppie". Just because you're heading out with the wife and child to eat ice cream (which sounds great, by the way) doesn't mean you're not an aspiring yuppie. I could be wrong, but does the definition of yuppie include, "one that is prone to drinking on the weekends?" I simply thought it was a young, upwardly mobile, urban, professional? People that eat organics and are prone to wearing thick framed glasses fall more in line with the "hipster" genre, in my opinion.



So, what we've described is more of a "yipster", if you will. Then again, labels have always made my head hurt...



For those of you that love bottled water, try a Brita Pitcher and a Nalgene bottle = killer thirst quenching goodness without all of the bottles.



Interesting observation. My soon to be wife grew up in rural Freeburg, IL, with well water (sans fluoride), and has a cavity almost every time she visits the dentist; and she is anal on the oral hygiene.

ttricamo wrote:I think you have to be careful when defining "yuppie". Just because you're heading out with the wife and child to eat ice cream (which sounds great, by the way) doesn't mean you're not an aspiring yuppie. I could be wrong, but does the definition of yuppie include, "one that is prone to drinking on the weekends?" I simply thought it was a young, upwardly mobile, urban, professional? People that eat organics and are prone to wearing thick framed glasses fall more in line with the "hipster" genre, in my opinion.



So, what we've described is more of a "yipster", if you will. Then again, labels have always made my head hurt...



For those of you that love bottled water, try a Brita Pitcher and a Nalgene bottle = killer thirst quenching goodness without all of the bottles.



Interesting observation. My soon to be wife grew up in rural Freeburg, IL, with well water (sans fluoride), and has a cavity almost every time she visits the dentist; and she is anal on the oral hygiene.

Good call. Hipster is probably what I was looking for.



Sorry if I offended anyone! It was a combination of things.



I'm mildly overweight, so you can call me a fat ass or something if that helps

Moorlander wrote:

Juice13610 wrote:
But I don't attempt to fit in to the "yuppie lifestyle." A night out on the town is going out to eat with my wife and son and finishing off with some ice cream.

Yikes.

Sorry, but I hardly find it a boring lifestyle to "yikes" about. I guess I could be hitting the clubs, divorce my wife, and be a deadbeat dad. Yeah, then I could be ultimately cool



I'm a family man, and damn proud to be.

carrieocity kills wrote:my understanding is that the EU is a bit paranoid as a general rule. they dont even put flouride in their tap water b/c they are suspicious of it- hence the rotten teeth.



i drink both tap and bottled water. tap has flouride in it which gives it an edge and i drink it all day at the office. i drink bottled at home b/c i can put a half-drank bottle back in the fridge and also b/c i dont have to find a clean glass when i want some cold water.

^ So, you are willing to drink out of the same bottle more than once, but you feel the need to have a clean glass every time you fill up from the tap? I apologize if I misunderstand your logic. If the reason that you want to put half the water back in the fridge is to save the water, the initial production and recycling processes use far more water than if you were to pure out half a glass. Plus you could also just serve yourself half the amount.

Sorry, but I hardly find it a boring lifestyle to "yikes" about. I guess I could be hitting the clubs, divorce my wife, and be a deadbeat dad. Yeah, then I could be ultimately cool



I'm a family man, and damn proud to be.

At least you realize you must be one or the other. Absolutely no middle ground.



Seriously though, I have no problem with your lifestyle. It's very admirable to be a family man. It's just not me. Maybe when I'm 40.

Doug wrote:

Do I want Bovine Growth Hormone in my dairy which the EU and Canada have banned?

There's no Bovine Growth Hormone in your dairy products. It's in the cows, not the milk. In fact, there's no scientific test that can determine any differance between milk produced by hormone-treated cows and non-hormone-treated cows.

MattnSTL wrote:I refuse to waste money on bottled tap water. Good to see it's catching on.

You and I are ahead of our time. I've always been too cheap to buy bottled water. If I have a party, I put out a big pitcher of tap water and glasses. I do admit occasionally buying a big bottle of Pellegrino or Apollinaris.



I even have SIGG bottles, but because I like the graphics:



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There's no Bovine Growth Hormone in your dairy products. It's in the cows, not the milk. In fact, there's no scientific test that can determine any differance between milk produced by hormone-treated cows and non-hormone-treated cows.[/quote]



this is absolutely true. Also, since farmers use this tool to increase milk production in cows they have without it they would need more cows (which means more waste--not good for the environment)



Of course, if you still do not like the idea of drinking milk from cows supplemented with this technology you are always free to pay twice as much for certified Organic milk. Just don't make me do the same and we are fine.

southsidepride wrote:Of course, if you still do not like the idea of drinking milk from cows supplemented with this technology you are always free to pay twice as much for certified Organic milk. Just don't make me do the same and we are fine.

Each not making the other do the same is fine by me. As someone who buys milk from the cows without growth hormome though, I just wanted to clarify the price. While some places it is twice as much, other places it isn't. For instance, at Trader Joe's it costs approximately the same (maybe a few cents more, but not much). Granted, it's not organic milk, but it doesn't come from cows with the growth hormone.



Oberweis is similarly priced (if you buy it from one of their locations, otherwise it is rather expensive). They don't use the growth hormone either, but they are not certified organic/natural because they do give their cows antibiotics when they are sick, but they don't milk the cows for human consumption during that time.

anyone have any documentation that city/county water has flouride added?

Framer wrote:

Doug wrote:

Do I want Bovine Growth Hormone in my dairy which the EU and Canada have banned?

There's no Bovine Growth Hormone in your dairy products. It's in the cows, not the milk. In fact, there's no scientific test that can determine any differance between milk produced by hormone-treated cows and non-hormone-treated cows.

Wow, and I thought I was the only critical thinker on this forum!



There was an organotard on the radio this morning, trying to extol the virtues of only drinking "BGH free" milk. When the host asked if it was true that none of the BGH actually ends up in the milk, the organotard replied that it was unknown, since there are no tests that exist for that.



So the question is, is she really that stupid, or is she hoping that her fellow organotards are? (probably a fairly safe bet)