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PostMar 12, 2009#51

Seamus McDaniels at Winghaven


Not even close to Seamus in Dogtown. Good try, but not even close. It is okay when you get inside, but then you realize your in this fake neighborhood square. The food is different too. It is not as good in my opinion. That place is REALLY hard to find if your not a Winghaven resident. Should have put it on HWY K.

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PostMar 12, 2009#52

We live in Dogtown and our neighbors are 3rd generation Dogtowners. Their daughter moved out to O'Fallon (much to their chagrin). She goes to the Winghaven Seamus. They call it the "clean" Seamus. On another note the Winghaven Seamus was listed, this week or last week, in tthe STL Business Journal as having a tax lien against it.

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PostMar 12, 2009#53

^I heard they are in trouble. They couldn't be doing very good. Winghaven has been hit hard by foreclosures on top of the fact that people are eating out less due to the poor economy. Seamus West really limited themselves by locating in the middle of a subdivision. I know the owners and I feel for them. They are still dogtowners at heart. I hope they survive. After all, he is the Daniel is Seamus McDaniels.



PS-I know we are getting off of the original thread-sorry

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PostMar 12, 2009#54

I got an earful from a friend that lives out in Cottleville when I joked about their parade starting at Target and ending at Applebees. She said it's going to be in front of St. Joe's Parish in the old town section (which is really just the church and two or three other buildings on Hwy. N) and will be held on Sat. so it is not trying to compete with Dogtown in any way.



I don't begrudge them doing that, but I don't think Dogtown is in any danger of being overshadowed anymore than the downtown parade does (and I enjoy the run and festivities downtown on Sat. as well)



But the Hibernian is the ultimate St. Pat's Day experience in St. Louis IMO.

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PostMar 13, 2009#55

southsidepride wrote:I joked about their parade starting at Target and ending at Applebees.


:lol:

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PostMar 13, 2009#56

southsidepride wrote:I got an earful from a friend that lives out in Cottleville when I joked about their parade starting at Target and ending at Applebees. She said it's going to be in front of St. Joe's Parish in the old town section (which is really just the church and two or three other buildings on Hwy. N) and will be held on Sat. so it is not trying to compete with Dogtown in any way.



I don't begrudge them doing that, but I don't think Dogtown is in any danger of being overshadowed anymore than the downtown parade does (and I enjoy the run and festivities downtown on Sat. as well)



But the Hibernian is the ultimate St. Pat's Day experience in St. Louis IMO.


But on Saturday it's competing with the downtown parade. I love your comment about the Target-Applebees route.

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Here's an article on the only two parades that matter - suck it, Cottleville:



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PostMar 14, 2009#58

Seamus McDaniels at Winghaven


LOL! :lol:

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PostMar 15, 2009#59

We had fun at the downtown parade today. Very long, really liked the Irish dancers, all the way from age 5 to age 20 :)



The little Irish dancer girls made me want to have a daughter. Because after all, it's only the cute stuff; no diapers, sleepless nights, doctor bills, ER visits, schooling, etc.

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PostMar 15, 2009#60

yeah the weather was great yesterday for the downtown parade. We got a primo spot in the sun on the south side of Market at 18th.



I'm really pumped about tuesday's forecast. Sunny and 73 degrees! After last year's monsoon and 2007 snow flurries it'll be a nice change of pace to be in a t-shirt :)

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PostMar 15, 2009#61

Yesterdays parade was wonderful and the weather was great. It seemed like a very large turnout.



I have the opportunity to attend the dogtown parade and am looking for advice where I can park and what bars are recommended that arent going to be jam packed. Does Nicks get really crowded?

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PostMar 15, 2009#62

you are better off parking in the south side of the neighborhood. Especially this year with Oakland being the staging ground I would try closer to Manchester.



We used to park at St. Louis Marketplace but the owner this year is charging $10 a car. Guess when your shopping center is 75% vacant you gotta make money somehow. A cab is another option. From most places in the city and near county should only be a few bucks.



As for bars, Seamus McDaniels and Pat's get crazy busy. Never been to Nick's on St. Pat's Day. But being an Irish bar I imagine it gets it's share of business even though it's a little bit of a hike from the main center of festivities.



we usually wind up at Colombo's and JackSons when we are done taking in the street scene on Tamm and after putting away some corned beef and cabbage from St. James.

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PostMar 15, 2009#63

Why don't you ride a bicycle?....Parking a bike is no problem....If your home is too far away to be a comfortable ride for you, drive your car to Tower Grove Park with your bike in it and then bike from there.

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PostMar 15, 2009#64

I would however I am going to be carrying a cooler and its not going to work. Plus I dont have a bike rack on my car. My other option is Metrolink but its kind of a hike from the FP station so I figure driving is my best option given I am able to park reasonably closer than the walk from the FP station.

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PostMar 16, 2009#65

JuiceInDogtown wrote:We had fun at the downtown parade today.


8)



Ya know, you and your wife should really play hookey and take your son to the Dogtown parade, especially since you live not all that far away. :wink:

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PostMar 16, 2009#66

ThreeOneFour wrote:
JuiceInDogtown wrote:We had fun at the downtown parade today.


8)



Ya know, you and your wife should really play hookey and take your son to the Dogtown parade, especially since you live not all that far away. :wink:


I finally talked myself in to it. I'm going to leave work at 10:30, get home about 11, and walk down. My house to Clayton/Tamm intersect is probably 25 mins by foot. Maybe we'll get a wild hair and take our bike.



We just took our first ride with the Wee Ride yesterday and it worked surprisingly well.





* edit; this is the picture from the box, not my wife and son.

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PostMar 16, 2009#67

I would say if you are bringing kids you might want to aim towards watching the parade by St. James. Not that Clayton/Tamm intersection is Bourbon St. or anything, but by the parish is a little less crowded and more kid friendly.



Look for the green taxi cab--I'll be walking behind tossing green beads and candy.

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PostMar 16, 2009#68

Record turnout for the run - almost 10,000 people participated!

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PostMar 16, 2009#69

southsidepride wrote:I would say if you are bringing kids you might want to aim towards watching the parade by St. James. Not that Clayton/Tamm intersection is Bourbon St. or anything, but by the parish is a little less crowded and more kid friendly.



Look for the green taxi cab--I'll be walking behind tossing green beads and candy.


Noted. Neighbor told us there is a carnival at St James so that'll be good for the boy.

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PostMar 16, 2009#70

The carnival at St. James is only at homecoming, not St. Patrick's Day

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PostMar 17, 2009#71

I truly enjoyed the downtown St Pat's Parade this past Saturday. A lot of work went into the entertainment, the floats, and everything else. A good time in the Gateway City!

I hate to add criticism to that comment, but I think this is worth mentioning. All of our local parades seem to have one shared problem: Bad timing. The distance between the entries in any local parade varies greatly.

The downtown St Pat's Parade was a prime example. The first few entries went by, followed by about 5 minutes of nothing. The next entry was still a block and half down the street. It is so anti-climactic to have such a large "dead space" within the parade.

Eventually, things were moving along. But soon enough, the entries became bogged down in a "traffic jam"; marching bands marched in place, floats stopped, and the parade came to a screeching halt-- more than once.

These things would be far less likely to occur if someone was paying better attention to the timing of the entries as they started the parade, as well as directing the pace throughout.

By the way, St Louis's biggest parade, Soulard Mardi Gras, is no less guilty of having bad timing.

It's just something that needs to be addressed.

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PostMar 17, 2009#72

citysoul wrote:I truly enjoyed the downtown St Pat's Parade this past Saturday. A lot of work went into the entertainment, the floats, and everything else. A good time in the Gateway City!

I hate to add criticism to that comment, but I think this is worth mentioning. All of our local parades seem to have one shared problem: Bad timing. The distance between the entries in any local parade varies greatly.

The downtown St Pat's Parade was a prime example. The first few entries went by, followed by about 5 minutes of nothing. The next entry was still a block and half down the street. It is so anti-climactic to have such a large "dead space" within the parade.

Eventually, things were moving along. But soon enough, the entries became bogged down in a "traffic jam"; marching bands marched in place, floats stopped, and the parade came to a screeching halt-- more than once.

These things would be far less likely to occur if someone was paying better attention to the timing of the entries as they started the parade, as well as directing the pace throughout.

By the way, St Louis's biggest parade, Soulard Mardi Gras, is no less guilty of having bad timing.

It's just something that needs to be addressed.


Agreed. More than once I asked my wife "Is that it?" and only decided it wasn't by looking around to see if the crowd was disprsing.





As far as St James not having a carnival, I guess my neighbor is a liar. Stupid old lady.

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PostMar 17, 2009#73

Did anyone go to Union Station after the parade? US used to be hopping on St. Pat's, but now that it's on life support, I was wondering if people still go there.

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PostMar 18, 2009#74

I don't know what was up with the city cops yesterday in Dogtown. A couple of times they got in their cars and drove slowly through the crowds on Tamm and Clayton. All they did was just drive back and forth with their sirens going. It wasn't like they were trying to escort anyone someplace. Really strange.



Then around 4pm they abandoned the roadblock at Clayton Ave and Graham. So people started driving right through the mobs of drinkers and partiers, even though Clayton Ave was supposed to be closed until later that night. Finally a supervisor noticed what was going on and put cars and cones back at the east end of the party.



Being a bright, clear sunny day at almost 80 degrees, I'd say the crowd wasn't any bigger than previous weekday Dogtown St. Patty's day. I figured it would be a mad house; but to me it didn't seem any more crowded than cold/clowdy St. Patty's before.

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PostMar 18, 2009#75

I think the parade is getting too much like Mardi Gras.

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