urbanSTL

I've always thought that Margan Fard south of Arsenal has the infrastructure for another South Grand business district. That would be a serious commercial, residential one-two punch for the southside. Anybody have the link to the grocery store article? Oh yeah, following STLGASM's lead, I propose that this conversation be continued with the amended spelling of "Margan Fard."

TGE-ATW wrote:I've always thought that Margan Fard south of Arsenal has the infrastructure for another South Grand business district. That would be a serious commercial, residential one-two punch for the southside. Anybody have the link to the grocery store article? Oh yeah, following STLGASM's lead, I propose that this conversation be continued with the amended spelling of "Margan Fard."

...as well as the I-64 discussion to "Highway Farty"

The grocery store is opening on June first: See link. I absolutely cannot wait, I think this is going to be a real asset for the neighborhood and the southside in general.



http://www.localharvestgrocery.com/

TGE-ATW wrote:The grocery store is opening on June first: See link. I absolutely cannot wait, I think this is going to be a real asset for the neighborhood and the southside in general.



http://www.localharvestgrocery.com/

We just went under contract for a house a couple of blocks away from where this grocery store will be. I have never been more excited about living somewhere in my life. My girlfriend shares in my enthusiasm as well. Walking distance to a grocery store and coffee shop (and all the other amenities this neighborhood has to offer) are things that too many people miss out on.



Also, while we're on the subject, does anyone know what's going on with the boarded up building at the corner Hartfard and Margan Fard? My realtor said that it was supposedly being renovated back into a private residence but do you guys have any more info?



Thanks,



Dustin

I friggin hate that 7-11 in Skinnytown. I was in there last Sunday at 11:30am buying ice and bottled water for a Mother's Day BBQ along with the Sunday Post and a Red Bull for myself. Made sure to leave my girlfriend in the car while I went inside.



While standing in line some tweeker starts begging me for money so he can buy some smokes. I tell him no and he's like "C'mon man, I you'z got money: you're dressed nice and got a sweet ride." (Since when is a four year old Ford Escape a sweet ride.) I tell him no again and try to ingore him.



Then as I go outside and some dude is flicking his tongue at my girlfriend as he gets out of the hoopty parked next to us. I tell him to stop because she'll eff him up more than I will.



The only 7-11 I hate more is the one downtown.

I assume that you are talking about either the northwest or southwest corner of Hartfard and Margan Fard. The southwest corner appears to be an occupied dwelling, the northwest corner is a foreclosure property that was acquired by the Bank of New York (for some reason based in Houston) back in 1998. They still own it, and no building permits have been issued. It looks like for the time being, it's just being held by the bank. BUmmer. Dustin, enjoy the neighborhood, my girlfriend lives on Humphrey right near there; it is a great area.

I also really like the neighborhhood and have been thinking about moving there.



That being said: I loathe that 7-11.

I lived in the area for a few years and still own property there - it's a great place to be.



And I agree that the 7-11 sucks, as does the car wash. I would go to the 7-11 ONLY during snow storms when I didn't feel like driving OR for a Slurpee after cutting the grass.

Here, lets be positive St. Louisans for a change? I like the quick access to TG park and the Botanical gardens. Very fast to South Grand, The Grove, CWE, the Hill, etc. G & W butchers on K-highway, Tin Can, Friendly's Bar, a convenient Imos, incoming Local products grocery store (a first for the city), Blackthorn Pizza, Hartfard Coffee, Carl's Garage, everything is walkable/bikable. I could go on, but I think one of the best things is that the houses are affordable, and the neighborhood, though it has standard city issues, is overrun with people walking their dogs, barbequeing, riding bikes, and kids playing in the street on n ice days. My girlfriend, and I, know probably a quarter of the people who live on her block by name, and she has been there less than two years. Good stuff. ***** that 7-11.

dweebe wrote:The only 7-11 I hate more is the one downtown.

Obviously, you haven't been to the one at Bates and Virginia. Multiply the dolt you encountered on Marganfard by at least ten, and you've got a good mental picture what the clientele are like at this location.



The one at Grand and Eiler is slightly better, but that's not saying much. It would take a snowstorm to prompt me to walk there.



Speaking of Marganfard, I really dig Stella Blues these days.

ThreeOneFour wrote:

dweebe wrote:The only 7-11 I hate more is the one downtown.

Obviously, you haven't been to the one at Bates and Virginia. Multiply the dolt you encountered on Morganfard by at least ten, and you've got a good mental picture what the clientele are like at this location.



The one at Grand and Eiler is slightly better, but that's not saying much. It would take a snowstorm to prompt me to walk there.

I've been to the one at Bates and Virginia a number of times: you're right, that one is also an adventure.



Hopefully Skinnytown will progress enough that the 7-11 and car wash are bought out and replaced by anything else.

The 7-11 at Southwest and Watson is perhaps the nicest one in the City, relatively speaking. But then again, I'd probably still go to the Huck's down Watson instead.

I'm in full agreement with everyone's observations on 7-11s in general. You never know, as fast as Skinnytown's coming along, the days of the 7-11 and car wash could be numbered.

TGE-ATW wrote:Here, lets be positive St. Louisans for a change? I like the quick access to TG park and the Botanical gardens. Very fast to South Grand, The Grove, CWE, the Hill, etc. G & W butchers on K-highway, Tin Can, Friendly's Bar, a convenient Imos, incoming Local products grocery store (a first for the city), Blackthorn Pizza, Hartfard Coffee, Carl's Garage, everything is walkable/bikable. I could go on, but I think one of the best things is that the houses are affordable, and the neighborhood, though it has standard city issues, is overrun with people walking their dogs, barbequeing, riding bikes, and kids playing in the street on n ice days. My girlfriend, and I, know probably a quarter of the people who live on her block by name, and she has been there less than two years. Good stuff. f*** that 7-11.

You're right about TGS. My wife and I almost bought a home there two years ago, but we moved to Carondelet instead. Frankly, I've had buyer's remorse ever since, because I love Tower Grove. Had Holy Family stayed open, we probably would've chosen the house near Marganfard, so I'm blaming Harshbishop Burke for something once again!

Skinnytown might be the stupidest name for a neighborhood that I have ever heard. If people want a unique, interesting sounding, historically relevant name for the Morganford business district, why not use... Morganford.



That said, does anyone know the story with the one building that seems to be mid-rehab that, a couple years ago, was a short-lived bakery? It is on the east side of the street, maybe at Connecticut. I vaguely remember hearing that it would a restaurant, but that was some time ago.

How bout we call it whatever the official neighborhood name is? Why does every little place need some catch name? Has marketing so thoroughly penetrated our collective subconsciousness?

How bout we call it whatever the official neighborhood name is?

Yes, I'd be curious to know what the 'official' name is. Many South St. Louis neighborhood's original (maybe official) names were those of developers 'marketing' their new addition. Not to mention that the names of many of our roads were meant to lend prestige to tenants and residents - Washington Avenue, Grand Avenue, etc. etc. I guess I see the appeal of names like Gaslight Square - though no longer meaningful, but I have no problem with new names. Should we not use place names like "The Loft District," "Compton Heights," "Lafayette Square," "The Grove," "The Hill," "Sunset Hills" . . . .

I don't know anyone who uses "Skinnytown" or even knows where "Skinnytown" is supposed to be. The area between Grand and Margan Fard, Arse-nal and ???? is just TG South isn't it? Also, I guess that Tower Grove Heights is in there closer to Grand, but I'm not sure if that is a neighborhood designation or just the historic district's name?

Did a little research. This might be the origin of the name.



http://www.stlinvestmentrealty.com/news ... .5x11).pdf

njenney wrote:Did a little research. This might be the origin of the name.



http://www.stlinvestmentrealty.com/news ... .5x11).pdf

The link is bad Jenny

the link is fine. the forum software is to blame. cut and paste it.

Grover wrote:

How bout we call it whatever the official neighborhood name is?

Yes, I'd be curious to know what the 'official' name is. Many South St. Louis neighborhood's original (maybe official) names were those of developers 'marketing' their new addition. Not to mention that the names of many of our roads were meant to lend prestige to tenants and residents - Washington Avenue, Grand Avenue, etc. etc. I guess I see the appeal of names like Gaslight Square - though no longer meaningful, but I have no problem with new names. Should we not use place names like "The Loft District," "Compton Heights," "Lafayette Square," "The Grove," "The Hill," "Sunset Hills" . . . .

Not following you there, chief. You're right, all names, when originally created, had some element of marketing in them, but a name had to be created. Why change the names of places, or perhaps better, why don't we allow names of places to arise organically, a la "the Hill" or "Dogtown," or the "Central West End"?



And for the record, I don't like "the loft district" or "the Grove."