St. Louis in the National Media

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Good Washington Post article on the Arch renovation grounds .... read the comments section at the end.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertai ... ost&wpmm=1
^Good tip about the comments. I've never seen such reasonable, articulate responses to a news article. The WP must filter out the riff raff.
Interesting opinion piece. I liked that he delved into some of the deeper issues with national expansion presented in the museum. But I think typical East Coast bias creeps in with his parting comment “hollow to the core”. It is something he would probably never say about the Washington Monument or Statue of Liberty where most of his readers live.

I hear a lot of foreign languages from visitors at the Arch - more than I hear East Coast accents. I wish the Museum had featured the international aspects of the Louisiana Purchase a bit more. The first New World slave revolt in Haiti tied up Napoleon’s troops leading him to abandon plans to move the troops to New Orleans. If that revolt had not happened, would we be speaking French? That may have been in the museum somewhere, but I don’t recall seeing it.


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FWIW, the writer of the piece used to be the classical music critic for the Post Dispatch.
Famed Arch is Refreshed for a New Generation:

https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/gate ... index.html
Thrillist gives Fair STL some love. . .

https://www.thrillist.com/travel/nation ... th-of-july
50 cities Americans are abandoning
St. Louis #4
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/realest ... V#image=48

where are they going?
https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/ec ... /35801343/
Well, they'll start moving back in about 100 years when a lot of those coastal cities start to flood.
hebeters2 wrote:
Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:20 am
50 cities Americans are abandoning
St. Louis #4
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/realest ... V#image=48
^ Chicago, LA, and NYC are all int the top 10, so forgive me if I don't waste any more of my time on that click-bait garbage.
The Arch people really know how to get the word out.
https://www.curbed.com/2018/6/28/175144 ... ndra-lange
Really nice pictures in there. And pretty good writeup.

I wish some more emphasis was put on the highway as part of affecting the Downtown area as a whole from Soulard to North City. I feel like lots of people think that the cap is the "ultimate" solution, but it really should be seen as a bandaid and I hope movement to remove it isn't dead. It still encourages drivers to drive in, and drive out of Downtown. To live farther from the city.

Also, are there pedestrian barriers along Luther Ely? It seems like cars turning left from memorial onto market or chestnut onto memorial could cause an issue as it's somewhat of a surprising turn. I think the city would benefit from more sidewalk pedestrian barriers. I loved them in Europe; they seemed to give me a sense of safety from cars on the narrow winding streets.
Death on foot: America’s love of SUVs is killing pedestrians
St. Louis 28.9
https://www.freep.com/story/money/cars/ ... 646139002/
I encourage everyone, when buying a new car, to get the option that detects pedestrians, bikes, and other cars and slams on the brakes if you don’t. I’ve had it on my Subaru since 2013. The technology is mature and works. And it is now standard on all 2018 Toyotas. It is getting cheaper. When I heard that a woman ran over and killed an old man who was in a crosswalk in Kirkwood last year, I was thinking how this technology could have saved him, and prevented a lifetime of remorse for her. So sad.


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I rather think it's distracted drivers that can't do without their damned devises, rather than the size of vehicles that's causing the problem.
^ In cities you could also add a fair share of distracted pedestrians as well. Large inorganic moving metallic objects intend to win over small slow moving organic objects. Walk signals and stripes on street are intended to help pedestrians but they don't protect from a distracted driver.
^^ as explained in the article, the size of the vehicle--like the speed at which it is moving--matters very much in terms of the amount of damaged done to a pedestrian's/cyclist's body on collision.

^ no. a distracted pedestrian might stumble over a curb. a distracted driver might plow a 2+ ton death machine into a group of people waiting to cross the street (like the incident described in the article). there is no f*cking comparison. the burden of responsibility on the driver is 1000 X that on the pedestrian, unless the driver happens to be totes cool with murdering people.
dredger wrote:
Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:01 am
^ In cities you could also add a fair share of distracted pedestrians as well. Large inorganic moving metallic objects intend to win over small slow moving organic objects. Walk signals and stripes on street are intended to help pedestrians but they don't protect from a distracted driver.
I've literally jumped out of the way of 3 turning vehicles at Tucker & Washington in the past 6 days. Within a crosswalk, I have 4 different directions to keep an eye on. "Distracted walking" is the single biggest slap in the face when it comes to transportation safety in cities.
aprice wrote:
Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:31 pm
I've literally jumped out of the way of 3 turning vehicles at Tucker & Washington in the past 6 days. Within a crosswalk, I have 4 different directions to keep an eye on. "Distracted walking" is the single biggest slap in the face when it comes to transportation safety in cities.
I forget where I head this, but I recall reporting years back that it was easier to teach a seeing eye dog to cross mid-block than at corners since it's only two directions. And that jaywalking can actually be safer for the same reason. Yes, I've jumped out of the way of my fair share of turning drivers. Even had one particularly egregious case where it was two younger boys that near enough ran me down where they stopped around the corner to yell at me. I explained the situation in a slightly shaky but quite forceful matter and the actually apologized. Hell, I've been on both sides of that. I've had to stop short a time or two when I didn't notice a pedestrian at night or in twilight. Wakes you up good to realize the stupid you almost did.

Yes, the onus of responsibility is on the driver. Even with jaywalkers, to be frank.
I'd like to see stats by neighborhood if they exist. I've seen a couple of people being hit on Gravois, where jaywalking is widespread (also at night).
symphonicpoet wrote:
Wed Jul 11, 2018 2:09 am
Hell, I've been on both sides of that. I've had to stop short a time or two when I didn't notice a pedestrian at night or in twilight. Wakes you up good to realize the stupid you almost did.
kipfilet wrote: I'd like to see stats by neighborhood if they exist. I've seen a couple of people being hit on Gravois, where jaywalking is widespread (also at night).
It's almost as if we should stop blaming individuals for widespread problems and aspire for better street design and better leadership.
^ can we still blame the individuals who oppose better street design because their commutes might get longer by half a minute? it's disheartening that people can't moderate their behavior on their own, and that they complain endlessly when government has to step in to create a safe, equitable environment.
aprice wrote:
Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:29 am
It's almost as if we should stop blaming individuals for widespread problems and aspire for better street design and better leadership.
Amen.
urban_dilettante wrote: ^ can we still blame the individuals who oppose better street design because their commutes might get longer by half a minute? it's disheartening that people can't moderate their behavior on their own, and that they complain endlessly when government has to step in to create a safe, equitable environment.
Oh yes please. I love a good fight.

Well . . . sometimes.
Meanwhile...St. Louis will be featured twice on the new season of PBS's "Ten That Changed America".

Next week the Arch will be on "Ten Monuments..."

https://www.pbs.org/ten-that-changed-am ... episode-2/

And the week after that Eads Bridge will be on "Ten Modern Marvels..."

https://www.pbs.org/ten-that-changed-am ... episode-3/
New series Sharp Objects on HBO takes place in the boot heel and the main character works at the St. Louis Chronicle.