Retail Rally: What's Next For Downtown St. Louis?

New and changing stores, restaurants, and businesses in the City of St. Louis
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aprice wrote:
Wed Apr 25, 2018 10:36 am
dbInSouthCity wrote:
Wed Apr 25, 2018 10:20 am
Robust Wine bar to close on the 28th, blames lack of convention traffic.
That's an odd way of saying mediocre food and pretentious staff. And if anyone is wondering what Wash Ave restaurant traffic is like, Sen Thai has been packed since it opened and Mango does very well. Mizu does okay. Over / Under captures most of the Marriott Grand business.
So I definitely read this as "Copia" not Robust. But I believe Copia is closing too though, right?
Robust actually had good food. The prices looked okay on the menu but the portions were tiny. As for traffic down there, Sugarfire dominates the street life but I think Porano, CBW, Taze, Snarfs, and Pi do okay. And now there's Kiin and the ice cream place. With Rascall Flatts opening soon. Hamburger Mary's is still off to a good start.

As for the Ax throwing place mentioned on the Laclede's Landing thread, it's actually in the Mansion House Center at Memorial and Washington. I've seen a few people in there but it was completely empty when I walked by yesterday. I imagine they're banking on a lot of corporate team building groups.
^ Interesting.... is that escape room still at Mansion House? I could see a bit of synergy b/w those two as a kind of group outing destination.

As for the warehouse district, I read the restaurant that will open in the Last Hotel (next year iirc) will be topped by the lead chef now at Pastaria. Sounded like they have some great plans and it should be a draw; I recall that dining was supposed to be a hallmark of the developer's other hotel properties.
The Axe place is in such an odd location, I don't know how they're going to make it work but I wish them the best.

That entire mansion house complex down 4th is a mess. It's a shame the building owners don't do much of anything to make it attractive. There are spaces there that have been empty for years.

4th street gets a lot of foot traffic from hotel guests walking to Wash Ave.....the Mansion house buildings and retail spaces are dirty and not well kept, pretty embarrassing.
I kind of liked Robust, I used it often for business lunches. The food was not bad but it was overpriced.
I have the same feelings for Copia.
Hopefully some good news coming to Wash Ave.... the Manofsky Shoe building that hasn't been contributing to WashAve street activity recently was sold and is undergoing a bit of renovation. Looks like they are leasing the basement and first floor for retail and second flood for office.

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Looks like the first floor may have a restaurant coming but it'd be great if some other retail that could compliment adjacent Star Clipper could come, too. Record shop or STL-Style downtown location would be great!
Thats awesome. Good news.
Shame on me for not doing it sooner, but I took the family to Turn for brunch over the weekend. Excellent and their space in the .ZACK building is great. One of the best breakfast experiences I've had in St. Louis. They just started dinner service and I'll be back in the near future. There is even a record store on the 2nd floor where my 6 year-old was enamored by the idea of cassette tapes...