Landing Development

[STLrainbow]

Perhaps more mixed-use residential is in store as a real-estate broker tweeted the Trader's Building at 801-805 N 2nd is under contract to a multi-family developer, It's this one...



I believe the building has a fair amount of vacancy right now.

[bwcrow1s]

Excellent! Hopefully some of the announcements from last year are making a turn for the better in interest on the Landing.

[STLrainbow]

I assume there is enough vacancy in all these upper floors to add at least a couple hundred each of office workers and residents, probably enough to make for a pretty decent neighborhood that wouldn't have to worry as much on entertainment/tourism. And I guess when that happens we'll see some new construction and redevelopment interest in the Near North Riverfront.

[STLhistoryBuff]

Received an email from a Leasing Specialist at Advantes Group. The general gist of the email was...

The building, called the Peper Lofts, is under construction. As of right now, we’re estimating that the apartment units will be ready for residential move-ins this coming fall.

The units are all going to be either 1-BR/1-BA or 2-BR/1-BA layouts.

The prices of the units won’t be finalized until they’re closer to being done. To give you a ballpark estimate, the 1-BR/1-BA units will range between $850-$1,050. The 2-BR/1-BA units will be between $1,250-$1,400. These are prices based off our current properties that the Peper Lofts will be similar to.

[jshank83]

^Those prices don't seem too bad. Not sure what the prices are on Wash Ave now but that is on the lower end of what they were when I lived there 2010-2012ish

[bwcrow1s]

Pretty good pricing, honestly.

[bwcrow1s]

There is a coming soon sign on 720 N 1st street for "Lumberjack Saloon", an axe throwing bar and grill.

Anyone know how Last Call is doing? Any word on Sundeckers reopening as anything?

[ricke002]

There is a coming soon sign on 720 N 1st street for "Lumberjack Saloon", an axe throwing bar and grill.

Anyone know how Last Call is doing? Any word on Sundeckers reopening as anything?

Uhhhh....does axe throwing and alcohol seem like a liability issue?

[bwcrow1s]

Well, yes.

At least the space gets a new lease on life.

The downside is that its just another corny concept lol. We really need some fill in from a good anchor establishment. Imagine what a place like Broadway Oyster Bar could do for the Landing.

[mjbais1489]

There is a coming soon sign on 720 N 1st street for "Lumberjack Saloon", an axe throwing bar and grill.

Anyone know how Last Call is doing? Any word on Sundeckers reopening as anything?

Uhhhh....does axe throwing and alcohol seem like a liability issue?

Yeah but a lot of cities have these type of bars. So I assume people have figured it out. There was a bar in Milwaukee that had a climbing wall - that was certainly a liability.

[bwcrow1s]

After walking around the area, too, I really hope the apartment project will get some ideas flowing for the empty lots right next to the Eads. This is an entrance or exit for people going to or from the Arch grounds. Desperately need something more beautiful here.

I also think it'd be cool if the city did an RFP for the three story parking garage on LKS. I think it would make an awesome full or weekend time open air market or food hal, or maybe converted to a multi story open air saloon or brewery. Or at least have garage doors for winter months.

Frustrating to see so many prime properties like this, Sundecker's, etc. sit and waste.

[ricke002]

There is a coming soon sign on 720 N 1st street for "Lumberjack Saloon", an axe throwing bar and grill.

Anyone know how Last Call is doing? Any word on Sundeckers reopening as anything?

Uhhhh....does axe throwing and alcohol seem like a liability issue?

Yeah but a lot of cities have these type of bars. So I assume people have figured it out. There was a bar in Milwaukee that had a climbing wall - that was certainly a liability.

Biggest mistake you can make on a rock climbing wall is you let go and all of the [Insert actual term here] ropes 'n stuff will catch you. Mess up with axe throwing and someone gets an axe in their head.

[mjbais1489]

I mean assuming you aren't drunk and decide to start climbing the wall yourself without ropes - which i think was the real concern and I watched occur many times.

[symphonicpoet]

Biggest mistake you can make on a rock climbing wall is you let go and all of the [Insert actual term here] ropes 'n stuff will catch you. Mess up with axe throwing and someone gets an axe in their head.

Mind you, this sounds kind of wonky to me, but . . .

You would have to tightly control the axes. The thrower and target could (should?) be in some kind of safety cage.

[mjbais1489]

https://www.yelp.com/biz/blade-and-timber-kansas-city

Just for reference here is one in KC

[jshank83]

Biggest mistake you can make on a rock climbing wall is you let go and all of the [Insert actual term here] ropes 'n stuff will catch you. Mess up with axe throwing and someone gets an axe in their head.

Mind you, this sounds kind of wonky to me, but . . .

You would have to tightly control the axes. The thrower and target could (should?) be in some kind of safety cage.

I have been to the one out in St. Charles. There are cages for each "lane" so you can't throw one into someone else's lane. The axes aren't all that sharp. They could still do some damage but they wouldn't even stick into the wood all that well. They have a line on the floor that everyone has to be behind that isn't throwing. You would have to screw up something crazy to hit anyone with one, like throwing it backwards.