Preservation Board Agenda

What's happening in our built environment.
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Next meeting Monday June 24

The preliminary agenda looks fairly benign.

2856 SALENA AVENUE Install a new front entry door (Benton Park)
2720-22 SOUTH JEFFERSON AVENUE Install ten (10) new windows on front façade (Benton Park)
and
A review of the Modern Architecture survey
Next Meeting July 22nd

More construction than demolition requests on agenda so far :)

Construction :D
a) construct 2 story single family houses at 1309, 1311 and 1313 DOLMAN STREET (Lafayette Sq)
b) 1421 MISSOURI AVENUE: build 2 story alley house (Laf Sq)
c) 2112 S. 11TH STREET: Construct a single-family dwelling (Soulard)
d) 4104 DeTONTY AVENUE: Construct sixteen 1½ story houses on 14 vacant lots (UIC project in Shaw)

Demolition :x
5331 ENRIGHT AVENUE : Blossom House. See Paul Hohmann's write up on http://vanishingstl.blogspot.com/2013/07/preservation-board-should-deny-blossom.html

+ some historic register applications
Regarding the Blossom House, I get the sense that the owner has been shopping around this week for an engineering firm that'll declare it structurally unsound. So far, I don't hink he's found any takers. Darn those professional standards!
Unhappy about the blossom house demolition, but wow, those new constructions are very promising.
imran wrote:
Next Meeting July 22nd

More construction than demolition requests on agenda so far :)

Construction :D
a) construct 2 story single family houses at 1309, 1311 and 1313 DOLMAN STREET (Lafayette Sq)
b) 1421 MISSOURI AVENUE: build 2 story alley house (Laf Sq)
c) 2112 S. 11TH STREET: Construct a single-family dwelling (Soulard)
d) 4104 DeTONTY AVENUE: Construct sixteen 1½ story houses on 14 vacant lots (UIC project in Shaw)

Demolition :x
5331 ENRIGHT AVENUE : Blossom House. See Paul Hohmann's write up on http://vanishingstl.blogspot.com/2013/07/preservation-board-should-deny-blossom.html

+ some historic register applications


Finally glad to see that UIC project moving forward. Talk about a developer who believes in STL and is doing it right!
ImprovSTL wrote:
imran wrote:
Next Meeting July 22nd

More construction than demolition requests on agenda so far :)

Construction :D
a) construct 2 story single family houses at 1309, 1311 and 1313 DOLMAN STREET (Lafayette Sq)
b) 1421 MISSOURI AVENUE: build 2 story alley house (Laf Sq)
c) 2112 S. 11TH STREET: Construct a single-family dwelling (Soulard)
d) 4104 DeTONTY AVENUE: Construct sixteen 1½ story houses on 14 vacant lots (UIC project in Shaw)

Demolition :x
5331 ENRIGHT AVENUE : Blossom House. See Paul Hohmann's write up on http://vanishingstl.blogspot.com/2013/07/preservation-board-should-deny-blossom.html

+ some historic register applications


Finally glad to see that UIC project moving forward. Talk about a developer who believes in STL and is doing it right!


I agree about UIC- they are really doing it right in my opinion. As for the Blossom House, well, I guess we can never have a step forward in St. Louis without at least one step back. :roll:
threeonefour wrote:
As for the Blossom House, well, I guess we can never have a step forward in St. Louis without at least one step back. :roll:


How else are we supposed to stay stagnent?!?
Next meeting August 26

Preliminary Agenda includes the following:

PRELIMINARY REVIEWS

4104 DeTONTY AVENUE
Construct sixteen houses on 14 vacant lots. Shaw Historic District . UIC/Brent Crittenden

4142-58 BLAINE AVENUE
Construct seven new single-family houses. North I-44 Historic District Ward: Brent Crittenden

4323 McREE AVENUE
Construct a two-story single-family house. North I-44 Historic District Ward: Brent Crittenden

2629 S. 11TH STREET
Construct a new single-family house.Soulard. Askins Development Group,

1000 MISSISSIPPI AVENUE
Install sign for Planter's House. Lafayette Square Historic District

3867 LAFAYETTE AVENUE
Partial demolition of north wing. Tiffany Neighborhood .Garden District Commission.

1831 S. 7TH STREET
Construct a two-story commercial/residential building. Soulard .KNJ – Ketan Patel

4654 MARYLAND AVE/238 N. EUCLID AVENUE
Exterior alterations: construct addition.CWE. Gamblin Whiskey House


APPEALS OF DENIALS

5911 McPHERSON AVENUE Eighty-four windows and exterior trim
Skinker-DeBaliviere

1824 KENNETT PLACE
Retaining wall. Lafayette Square Historic District

4231 McPHERSON AVENUE
Replace two window on front façade. CWE
Next meeting Sept 23rd

So far a very benign agenda including a resolution regarding grant applications and 4 appeals of denials for residential projects ( roofs, porches etc)
Not confirmed personally, but I've been told that Guy Slay just bought the Blossom House for renovation.
Next meeting this monday Oct 28

New Construction
.2830 and 2836 McNAIR (Benton Park) . Construct a single family residence ( unusually designed like a commercial building)
2847 INDIANA (Benton Park) Construct a single family (Another uncommon design to create a 1 story ADA complaint relatively sprawling residence)
1107 DOLMAN STREET (Lafayette Square) Construct a single family residence

New Application
5244 WESTMINSTER P (CWE) retaining wall in front yard

Appeals of denials
Illuminated sign , garden wall, retaining walls etc
Construct a commercial garage building (2855 Magnolia Ave in Fox Park)
Demolish 2 story alley house for parking pad (1811 R South 7th street in Soulard)

Special Agenda
Nominations to the National Register
Next meeting monday 11/25

agenda as follows


1) 3141 LASALLE STREET. Ward 6 . Landmark Designation for church

2) PRELIMINARY REVIEWS:

3015 McNAIR STREET . Benton Park HD . Construct a two-story house.

2716 INDIANA AVENUE .Benton Park HD .Construct a two-story house.

3) APPEALS OF DENIALS:

4380 OLIVE STREET. Central West End HD. Construct a 3 family dwelling

5885 DR. M.L. KING DR. Wellston Loop NR HD . Demolish a commercial bldg.
seems like a nice uptick in new construction of single family homes recently - especially in Benton Park
Next meeting Monday 12/16

Preliminary Reviews

1 4643 LINDELL BOULEVARD: Demolish building and construct a 12-story residential building.
Central West End Historic District ,Ward: 28 (this is the proposed OPUS mixed use at Euclid and Lindell)

2 4243 MARYLAND AVENUE Construct a new alley house.
Central West End Historic District, Ward: 18

3 3011 McNAIR AVENUE : Construct a single family house on vacant lot.
Benton Park Historic District Ward: 9 , Amy Mintner

4 1715-19 PARK AVENUE : Mount solar panels on roof of commercial buildings.
Lafayette Square Historic District, Ward: 6
Avanti Real Estate LLC

Appeals of Denials

1032-38 ALLEN AVENUE :
Construct a wall.
Soulard Historic District Ward: 7

4520 McPHERSON AVENUE
Construct a dormer and three-story deck at rear.
Central West End Historic District, Ward: 28

3114 LEMP AVENUE
Construct retaining walls at front façade.
Benton Park Historic District Ward: 9

2723 GRAVOIS AVENUE
Replace an existing illuminated ground sign.
McKinley Heights Historic District Ward: 7
MHK Realty LLC
Next meeting 1/27/14

No surprises on the Agenda

NEW CONSTRUCTION

A. 4643 Lindell Blvd. Central West End HD Second presentation by Opus.

B. 1220 Dolman. Lafayette Square HD. Construct single family house.

APPEAL OF DENIALS

C. 3114 Lemp Ave. Benton Park HD. Construct timber retaining wall.

D. 330 Lemp Ave. Benton Park HD . Install wrought iron security doors.

E. 1900 S. 12th St. Soulard HD. Raise existing fence .

F. 1000 Sidney St. .Soulard HD. Enclose patio structure

G. 3535 Victor St. Compton Hill HD.Retain glass block basement windows.

SPECIAL AGENDA ITEMS

1. Discussion of a Preservation Board Conflict of Interest Policy
2. Introduction: Preliminary Review Policy Development
Next meeting is Feb 24
only preliminary agenda available so far.


****DEMO ALERT ****

Address: 2828-34 OHIO AVENUE
Demolish 5 rowhouses for new residential construction.
National Register District Ward: 9
Applicant: DeSales Community Housing Corp. - Thomas Pickel

Address: 2842 MAGNOLIA AVENUE
Demolish 1 house for new residential construction.
Jurisdiction: Fox Park Historic District Ward: 6
Owner/Applicant: DeSales Community Housing Corp. - Thomas Pickel

I kinda remember Tom Pickel representing the garden district commission in a previous application for half demo of a building on 39th street for (sigh) parking.
^ i suppose it will depend on what is proposed to replace them, but IMHO 2828 Ohio, at least, should certainly not be demolished. 2830-34 are not particularly exceptional, are set back quite far from the sidewalk, and are in pretty bad shape. still, they would make a nice low-key row if rehabbed and the yards landscaped, and if the proposed new construction is cheap suburban BS then i hope this proposal gets shot down. 2842 Magnolia is a low-slung, nondescript brick box with fake stone cladding on the street-facing side. again, for me it would depend on what is proposed to replace it. in all cases, my instinct says it will be cheap vinyl-sided crap though.
Those row houses could be awesome. Wouldn't they qualify for historic tax credits?
These demos in Fox Park are tricky. Many neighbors came out in support of this action and Fox Grove housing is considered a neighborhood asset by many on the nabe assoc and Fox Park'ers. They only do low income rentals...which we have lots of already. It would be great if DeSales did more for OWNERS. We need owners who root down and want to improve the area. Renters in many cases are passing through and rarely, if ever, get involved in neighborhood stuff. This whole housing corp thing for low income renters in a historic neighborhood is tricky...sadly I'm in the minority on this one. Sometimes you have to choose your battles and this would be an uphill fight to speak out against DeSales demos and rental properties. They get their way with very little input.
Thanks for the insight Mark. I looked up Fox Grove housing and most of their available (income restricted) rentals are rehabs of historic properties. You'd think these properties would be amenable to that.
Here is a link to Desales projects:
http://www.desaleshousing.com/our-projects/

Like others have said, it would depend on what is proposed. I was pleasantly surprised to find that most of Desale's record is community stabilization through rehab of historic stock.
In general I believe in embodied energy and conservation.


Will post again when the full agenda with plans becomes available.
I notice that these five rowhouses on Ohio have a much deeper setback than the rest of the block, and that their building line is at a strange diagonal to the street. Did the street grid shift after their construction?
Can someone post a street view screen grab of these properties? I feel like what I'm seeing isn't lining up to the description. Thanks.
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There are actually five rowhouses (total) behind that tree. The house on the left has a more recent front addition.
Not trying to hi-jack this string with Fox Park specific stuff; but, areas like this are tough when it comes to preservation. Many moved here when this place was popping with renovations. It was exciting...but then the economy tanked. You know the story, but people who bought here hoping to be part of positive change are getting impatient. Tearing down these neglected places is progress to many of these folks. They don't like the ghetto stuff (nor do I) that goes on in and around these abandoned properties, it makes life tough at times when heroin, and dealers and ho's do what they do near your home and want to make you uncomfortable so they can keep their biz/lifestyle going. Gentrification is a push and pull, right. And then DeSales/Fox Grove come in with a plan and everyone is happy that something ANYTHING is going to happen. I get it but it's sad to see our history go the way of non-profit, low income rental landlords and 21st Century building materials and designs. It'll never replace what we had or could've had if there was more money in this part of town.
^I get what you're saying. There's a fine line between settling and between not letting perfect be the enemy of good. I'd hate to see suburban style construction with primarily vinyl siding. But if sacrificing a few lots and old buildings for new construction is what it takes to continue the progress of a neighborhood, it's likely worth it. Tough call.

Presbyterian wrote:
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There are actually five rowhouses (total) behind that tree. The house on the left has a more recent front addition.


Thanks. The tree must be what had me fooled.