St. Louis in the National Media

St. Louis references in the news. Oh yeah, don't forget our favorite "Top Lists."
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This also came up on Reddit and is misleading. Bottom line is: St. Louis does not show up on the ranking because of a statistical issue. But if it did, it would still not look as bad. Here is what I wrote over there:
If you go check the original report, the main variable that is used to produce this ranking (crime rate per 100k inhabitants) is missing for the St Louis metro area. Since it is a missing observation, naturally St Louis does not make it to the ranking. I think there is some issue with the way that Violent Crime is classified in our metro area that is not compatible with the way FBI compiles statistics.

If you are interested, I took the FBI data and sorted it into the top30 metro areas by violent crime rates and no missing observations. This should coincide with the slideshow, so it'll save you many clicks unless you're into stock pictures of said MSA's https://imgur.com/1S3F66O

If we look at murder rates, a variable which is NOT missing for St Louis, we get the St Louis metro coming out in number 25 (out of 394 metros) https://imgur.com/qIfntO6

If we further focus on murder rate for cities with over 100k inhabitants (a common criterion in this type of exercises), St Louis climbs to 21. Still pretty good I'd say, given the general perception https://imgur.com/sg6MV2X
So this isn't really news about St. Louis, but a fictional story about a bombing in St. Louis and two architects who attempt to plan a memorial to the victims. An interesting, and long, read. Thought I'd share it here.

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017 ... r-st-louis
Yeah, I see what you mean about the missing data in FBI Table 6 for 2017 for St. Louis metro. Actually, all the data is there from St. Louis City. And it is there for all the other counties in the metro area combined, except for aggravated assault category. The FBI believes it was under-reported or did not follow the UCR guidelines. But all outlying county data for aggravated assaults IS included FBI Table 6 for 2015 reporting.

If you use the 2015 numbers for outlying counties aggravated assault, but use 2017 numbers for City and all the other categories for the counties, the total comes to 507 per 100K if I computed it correctly. This is worse than the 486 total from 2015. But it is still well below the worst city in the article -- 551-- reported for Beaumont Texas.

So St. Louis Metro would not have made this 2017 Most Dangerous Metro Areas list in any case.
STL- #5 best food city according to Food & Wine:

https://www.riverfronttimes.com/foodblo ... d-and-wine
This is a few months old, but the WSJ highlighted Missouri as a top travel spot for 2019. While the tag line is a little annoying, glad that the arch and other development downtown as well as Cortex continues to make headlines.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsj.co ... 1540312403
robbie wrote:
Sun Dec 30, 2018 4:13 pm
This is a few months old, but the WSJ highlighted Missouri as a top travel spot for 2019. While the tag line is a little annoying, glad that the arch and other development downtown as well as Cortex continues to make headlines.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsj.co ... 1540312403
Don't worry, we'll get the last laugh when lower Manhattan is underwater
Infoweek ranking of 10 best places in the World for Tech Workers to Love. Could be another ranking where we rank high due to the tiny denominator, just like the phony city crime rankings. But we'll take it I guess.

https://www.informationweek.com/strateg ... e_number=4
Yikes. That "quality of life" score is pretty dismal. Not bad to be ranked with some of these other cities though.
States where you're rich making less than $100,000
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/st ... VD#image=6
^ Meh, States are too vague. Urban vs Metro areas are much more accurate. In Western/Upstate NY $100k will go a lot further than it does here, but you won't see that on the list due to NYC. $100K in a medium-nice area of STL county won't get you that far.
Shout out to St. Louis Food Scene:

https://www.chicagotribune.com/lifestyl ... story.html
A teacher at Vianney is caught up in the Covington Catholic thing and made the Gateway Pundit over this. I don't know if it relates to this thread but it is in the national media.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/0 ... be-lit-up/
Food Network published a list of the best sandwiches in America and three local establishments landed on the list. Interestingly, I’ve not had any of the sandwiches and can say with some certainty that there’s one I’ll die happy without ever sampling (I’m talking to you, brain sandwich). https://www.foodnetwork.com/restaurants ... in-america
chriss752 wrote:
Sat Jan 26, 2019 3:52 pm
A teacher at Vianney is caught up in the Covington Catholic thing and made the Gateway Pundit over this. I don't know if it relates to this thread but it is in the national media.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/0 ... be-lit-up/
Is this you supporting local media?
robbie wrote:
Sun Jan 27, 2019 10:21 pm
Food Network published a list of the best sandwiches in America and three local establishments landed on the list. Interestingly, I’ve not had any of the sandwiches and can say with some certainty that there’s one I’ll die happy without ever sampling (I’m talking to you, brain sandwich). https://www.foodnetwork.com/restaurants ... in-america
St. Paul's are decent. They're cheap, but not really memorable for me. Toss a little hot sauce on it. The mayo thing is kinda gross to me though, if you're ordering it by delivery. In the end, if you can find a low-brow late night delivery place (I know, good luck in St. Louis), you can get a sack to feed the crew for like $20.

Gioia's is a place you must go, though. My first go there about 8 years ago was life changing.

I was on the edge of ordering a brain from Schottzie's years ago before the waitress pretty much told me they weren't very good. Didn't want to blow my college lunch budget on something horrible, so I chickened out. Maybe some day.
Ebsy wrote:
Mon Jan 28, 2019 3:13 am
chriss752 wrote:
Sat Jan 26, 2019 3:52 pm
A teacher at Vianney is caught up in the Covington Catholic thing and made the Gateway Pundit over this. I don't know if it relates to this thread but it is in the national media.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/0 ... be-lit-up/
Is this you supporting local media?
I don't get your comment here. I like the local media but I thought this thread is for things relating to St. Louis that have been published on a website viewed by people all across the nation.
Well, technically any website can be viewed by people across the nation.

This is not an attempt to be political, but when I think of the "National Media" I tend to think the New York Times, Washington Post, NBC, CBS, Forbes, Fox, WSJ, etc. Not a St. Louis based website that trolls in unsubstantiated falsehoods and conspiracies. Scouring an unknown person's twitter feed for one tweet in an attempt to smear them is not journalism, and most certainly doesn't qualify as "national media." This is an STL based website run by a notorious right wing troll. It's own Wikipedia page describes it as "fake news" and says the site is known for spreading falsehoods and hoaxes. The site also has a history of falsely implicating innocent people in major shootings, bombings, and other tragedies in an attempt to smear the left.

The Gateway Pundit is not a legitimate source and should not be trusted.
Most difficult places to buy a home.

STL #6

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2019/01/31/mos ... he-us.html
Nice write-up from Forbes. Focused on the Angad Arts Hotel, but good stuff about STL in general:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/katiebell/ ... eddaf842a5
Not exactly "news" but it is "media" (by a certain definition of the word). This video of the St. Louis Fire Department fighting a car fire has been blowing up fairly recently, and not in a good way. As someone who knows a bit about fire-fighting tactics/methods, this is pretty much a textbook video on how not to fight a car fire (or any fire, for that matter). The comments on the video are equally, if not more, condemning, including one (who, from their message, sounded almost like they're a member of the department) who "[thanked] the crew of Engine 1 for making every member of the STLFD look like cowboys". From the lack of hustle, to the way the fire is fought, to the complete lack of PPE being worn (a very big no-no), and the fact that they used a booster line instead of, for example, a 1-3/4" line to fight the fire reflects extremely poorly on the whole department, and, by extension, the region.

I can only hope that the appropriate department officials are aware of the video and have taken appropriate measures to counteract such a poor display of fire-fighter training, and that such issues and attitudes aren't prevalent throughout the whole department.

Bad press? Compton heights is about to get hundreds of thousands of view. That's great press!