Detroit Developments

Discuss anything urban that's pertinent to our understanding of the USA.
Ilitches paying off public Little Caesars Arena bonds 28 years early, refinancing privately ... 823317001/

sigh... to have business leaders that give a damn.
Google chose the new arena site for it's move from the burbs... ... 107869696/

Hopefully we'll hear more details on BPV tenants, including whether Rawling's is looking at office space or just something retail-oriented,
Detroit just broke ground on it's tallest while I'm happy for the city of Detroit and the region i have to say if this is what 909 Million will get you architecturally wise then i don't want it.. While the base of the building is beautiful the rest is very bland and uninspiring. While much smaller in height i'll take 100 OCW and 300 any day for Detroit's tallest.. Either way i wish them the best of luck.
I like the design. What i would be uncomfortable with however, if i was in Detroit, is how one man (Dan Gilbert) is about to own the whole city. It's like something from a dystopian sci-fi film.
^ yeah, there certainly are concerns about so much of in the hands of GIlbert -- and also the Ilitch family -- but there is still a boat load of other folks doing some big things, too. (Our own McCormack Baron for one doing a big mixed-use project down on the riverfront... would love for them to do something like that down in our North Riverfront.) Anyway, the scale of what's going on over there in the D with multiple players with both rehab and new construction is pretty remarkable.

One of my favorites is The Platform, which is undertaking some high-quality projects outside the CBD:
Pretty cool night pic of Woodward Ave

Some non-Gilbert or Ilitch developments in Detroit in the news this week..,,

Crowne Plaza hotel owners plan 28-story second tower downtown ... ium=social


that kind of reminds me of that pitch a year or two ago by the owners selling the KMOV tower that another tower could be built on the second pod.. the way things are going, maybe it'll happen!

$70M high-rise breaks ground at site of historic Statler Hotel in Downtown Detroit ... river_home

I'd call this one more of a mid-rise and certainly won't replace the Statler which unfortunately didn't make it to see the better days, but it does fill up a key vacant parcel.

And Curbed Detroit also took a look at a Orleans Landing apartment (riverfront project completed by STL-based McCormack Baron a few months ago)
Detroit apartment comparisons: What $2,018 rents right now ... -2018-rent

while our riverfronts aren't apples to apples, there are quite a few similarities b/w our Near North Riverfront and there's; would be great if MB could take a whack at infill similar to Orleans Landing.
Orleans Landing looks great and could be plopped right on the North Riverfront and fit right in. Cincinnati also has a district called the Banks, which has also been a highly successful planned redevelopment. I don't know what it is, but St. Louis just can't get it's riverfront development together. People can say that our riverfront isn't as pretty as the Detroit River or Ohio River, but with views of the Arch, historic bridges, and the downtown skyline, how could it not be a desirable address? Not to mention our riverfront has a light rail station with direct access to the largest job centers and international airport. I really think SLDC and the Downtown Partnership are just inept organizations that have a hard time getting the job done. The views coming into downtown from the South and North are really embarrassing. The blight is outrageous, I can't think of a major city with worst views.
* i agree with a lot of that but in some defense our Near North Riverfront seems to be a bit more challenging logistically. Cincy's Banks location is the most central (would be the equivalent of the Arch grounds location but book-ended by stadia and now with streetcar) and thus more attractive for mixed-use development, Detroit;s is more similar to ours but it is more connected/accessible to surrounding n'hoods -- the bridge, fuel storage complex and state corrections facility all dampen access to the north and of course I-70 to the west, And then we have some difficult infrastructure such as the floodwall, active railroad and massive cross-river power lines and such.

But I am optimistic that we'll see some decent activity down there in a relatively decent time frame.,, it's got great potential and there is some activity in the works already,,, stay tuned.
I think we can do a lot better than the Orleans Landing development. It would be better than the green space-riddled concept from Forum though. I just feel like the riverfront is made for bigger buildings. I think 5-6 story loft buildings with retail would fit best there. I would just hate to see us fork over some of our best real estate to a peabody-esque (at least from the views I saw, and based on roughly some of the residential views) development
^ I think Orleans Landing is pretty decent for its context and I do like how as a whole it seems to create a mixed-use, pedestian-friendly environment. It could be better but I'd give it a B. This was to be the first of two phases but I haven't heard of what might be next. (I'm also very interested in seeing what McCormack Baron brings to the old Pittsburgh Penguins arena site,,, they are developing the residential portion of a mized-use plan)

I think for our Near North Riverfront area something roughly like Orleans Landing would be fine but as it more compact I agree something resembling more of the existing warehouse scale down there might be ideal.
I think South Riverfront/Chouteau's Landing has the best chance for that right now -- as I recall, the entire area went up for sale several months back. It has good bones for a lot of those buildings to go loft conversion, at least. And with the momentum farther up Broadway, it could, maybe be feasible.

Either way, I divert this thread. Back to Detroit lol.
Here's another non-Gilbert/Ilitich project downtown.... rehab for a new F500 (spinning off from Milwaukee-based Johnson Control) setting up HQ in the D.

Adient's new headquarters takes front seat at Detroit auto show ... ront-.html


And not long ago Lear Corp, another F500 company, bought and rehabbed a downtown building for its Innovation Center (while keeping its HQ in suburbs)


if we can get this kind of jobs momentum driving downtown development, we could get really get things going here
Cordish is going to put up a Two Light-type tower on a parking lot overlooking Comerica Park as part of the large-scale Ilitch development plan. ... ium=social
Greater Downtown Detroit continues its rather incredible pace, but this truly could be a historic redevelopment...

Ford looks at buying Detroit's long-vacant Michigan Central Station ... 439108002/
^That would be absolutely fantastic. :)
Demo as part of the massive "Monroe Block" mixed-use development from Gilbert's Bedrock development firm should begin in June. This will have two high-rises, 1 office and 1 residential, along with some mid-rise. The office tower will front Woodward (on current surface parking lot) and be across from Campus Martius and the project willl he a block away from the Hudson site development where the 700' tower will go.

Development in greater downtown has been off the charts and now it looks like Ford will be making a major play with the purchase of the Michigan Central Station and surrounding properties. Pretty awesome. ... 655859002/
Sounds like Gilbert is facing some racial backlash: ... sey-2018-7

Notice anything missing in this photo? Seem familiar?

Dan Gilbert's Hudson Tower to GROW Even More...

According to Crain's...
While the final height has not yet been determined, Joe Guziewicz, vice president of construction for Gilbert's Bedrock LLC, confirmed that it will be taller than the 800 feet that was previously announced as the company looks to get "the most flexibility for how we use it and how we program it."

"We may end up at 900," Guziewicz said, adding that the city has been briefed on the plan. "This has been an ongoing struggle for us for the last eight months. We get one shot and we want to be sure we have the right components inside."

Those include residential, and possibly hotel and other uses, although a final configuration of the space hasn't been decided. The previously revealed $909 million cost is almost certain to grow, although by how much is not known.
I personally think that the design of the tower will change from what was unveiled in December when construction began. The previous design was to have terra cotta and copper detailing that would run up the mullions in the tower.

framer wrote:
Mon Oct 08, 2018 1:35 pm
Trouble in Ilitch land: ... 17571.html
Reminds me of someone here. Not quite as bad though, at least he built something.
The Hudson's Site tower was confirmed to rise to 912FT in a late September document published to Crain's Detroit Business. Last night, user "The North one" on Skyscraper Page posted this rendering of the 912FT, 62 Floor tower. It is a far cry from the rectangular design that has been presented since February 2017.


This is the fifth iteration of the design of the tower. The first was Mid-February 2017 at 52 Floors and 734FT. The second version (not pictured below) retained the 734 foot mark and lost some floors for a glass crown. The second image represents the third design which saw a height bump to 800FT and the base becoming simplified. It also included the addition of a Skydeck. During the ground breaking in December 2017 came the third rendering and fourth design of the tower which retrained all of the same things as in the third version but included more glass and terra cotta. The latest version, the one that is being built, is the tallest at 912FT and 62 Floors and will include a Hotel, Residential, Retail and Observation Space.


The project is backed by Cleveland Cavaliers and Quicken Loans boss, Dan Gilbert. Gilbert's Bedrock Detroit has invested heavily into their Downtown recently which ahs brought it back in many ways. He currently is working on adding an addition to One Campus Martius and building on number of Vacant lots near One Campus Martius with the "Monroe Blocks" project. Those are all included below along with a new office tower HQ for "The Chemical Bank" which isn't being developed by Gilbert.

According to users on, the One Campus Martius expansion has a tower crane base set in place and the Hudson's Tower is currently getting it's foundations drilled. Yesterday also marked the 20th Anniversary of the demolition of the old Hudson's department store and many people thought that Dan Gilbert would've revealed more information about he development on that site but it was all quiet besides construction.