Landing Development

The design competition and remake of the Jefferson National Expansion Memorial, AKA the Arch grounds.
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framer wrote:
Thu Apr 20, 2017 3:36 pm
A bit more info:

http://www.stltoday.com/business/local/ ... f8a9d.html
Clark said... the firm’s employees are looking forward to seeing Laclede’s Landing, which has been plagued by access issues during the years-long Arch grounds construction project, open up a bit more. And, she said, Abstrakt hopes it can help “revitalize” the Landing by continuing to add workers.
^ I'd been wondering whether activity had picked up any since the North Gateway opened, actually.

-RBB
^ It would be good to know occupancy rates for the Landing... if it can get a couple hundred more workers and build up a modest residential node with the existing stock that could go a long way to making the start of a true, sustainable neighborhood and create the demand for infill. Lots of potential.
STLrainbow wrote:
Tue Apr 25, 2017 10:35 am
^ It would be good to know occupancy rates for the Landing... if it can get a couple hundred more workers and build up a modest residential node with the existing stock that could go a long way to making the start of a true, sustainable neighborhood and create the demand for infill. Lots of potential.
It still needs a better connection to the city. Not gonna happen without getting rid of that interstate.
ImprovSTL wrote:
Tue Apr 25, 2017 11:00 am
STLrainbow wrote:
Tue Apr 25, 2017 10:35 am
^ It would be good to know occupancy rates for the Landing... if it can get a couple hundred more workers and build up a modest residential node with the existing stock that could go a long way to making the start of a true, sustainable neighborhood and create the demand for infill. Lots of potential.
It still needs a better connection to the city. Not gonna happen without getting rid of that interstate.
Why did it prosper for so many years then?

I mean, it's not that hard to get there, it just feels cordoned off and if you don't know it's there, you might not ever stop there.

Losing the interstate would be great, of course. I think the other thing is a perception of lower public safety, and lots of businesses that aren't as attractive any longer. A popular anchor restaurant or craft brewery (not Morgan Street) would probably do a lot to attract people down there. The concepts are dated, or tacky for the most part.
The loss of the Arch parking garage is a big loss for the area. Consolidating the surface parking into one big garage across the MLK bridge (with ground level retail) would be a huge boon. Reopening Lucas Street would also be incredibly helpful to the area in terms of connectivity.

I would also like to see the area under the MLK bridge better utilized in the form of food truck parking or shipping container shops
I feel like the real death-blow to the area was the casino. Before that it felt more like a neighborhood, continuing organically to the north, but after that everything north of MLK was gone, save for the casino itself, which sits in rather splendid isolation from . . . everything. Personally, I think what it would take is seizing their parking lot by eminent domain and redeveloping first, second, and the old SLIGO building and adjacent properties into commercial or residential. I honestly don't hold out much hope for any of it anymore. I expect it will soldier on a while, but . . . it's going to take a real tectonic shift downtown to really give it any life. It's just too isolated and too small. The closing of Washington may have been the last straw, but it was already going downhill long before that. :(
It was the construction. Construction has been going on for years and went longer than promised. The Landing has been a commercial area for a long time. Without access to those businesses or residents close by, they aren't going to make money

The Landing needs residents. All of the strong neighborhoods in the city have a density of residents living there. The Landing doesn't.
symphonicpoet wrote:I feel like the real death-blow to the area was the casino. Before that it felt more like a neighborhood, continuing organically to the north, but after that everything north of MLK was gone, save for the casino itself, which sits in rather splendid isolation from . . . everything. Personally, I think what it would take is seizing their parking lot by eminent domain and redeveloping first, second, and the old SLIGO building and adjacent properties into commercial or residential. I honestly don't hold out much hope for any of it anymore. I expect it will soldier on a while, but . . . it's going to take a real tectonic shift downtown to really give it any life. It's just too isolated and too small. The closing of Washington may have been the last straw, but it was already going downhill long before that. :(
I agree. It's going to be a tough battle. The Casino and the Arch Grounds construction pose a big uphill battle.


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Unfortunately Trover/Landshire declared bankruptcy and is shedding jobs; looks like they also are considering moving the HQ out of The Landing and the city.

St. Louis sandwich distributor Troverco files for bankruptcy
http://www.stltoday.com/business/local/ ... c2a7a.html
Per the Business Journal, a developer has purchased the Ashley Street power house.

Can someone with subscriber access share the details?

https://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/new ... loper.html
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Per the Business Journal, a developer has purchased the Ashley Street power house.

Can someone with subscriber access share the details?

https://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/new ... loper.html
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The new owner "has entered into a new 20-year agreement with the city of St. Louis’ Solid Waste Management and Development Corp. to operate the St. Louis district energy system and supply reliable green energy to nearly 70 buildings, hotels, sports venues and businesses in the downtown business district."
Little update on the planned apartments on the Landing by the Advantes Group.

I reached out to them to see if everything was still happening and they replied stating that
This project is a go and we will begin demo next month with units coming on line late spring early summer 18
Quick Reminder - http://www.stltoday.com/business/local/ ... f8a9d.html
STLhistoryBuff wrote:
Tue Oct 17, 2017 4:52 pm
Little update on the planned apartments on the Landing by the Advantes Group.

I reached out to them to see if everything was still happening and they replied stating that
This project is a go and we will begin demo next month with units coming on line late spring early summer 18
Quick Reminder - http://www.stltoday.com/business/local/ ... f8a9d.html
Nice. I had initially reached out to them to check in but had figured the project stalled by now.

This is awesome. Can't wait to see what the units look like.
NextSTL story on the apartments planned on the Landing

https://nextstl.com/2017/10/residential ... s-landing/
The Landing is getting a new coffee shop and Korean joint

http://www.feastmagazine.com/the-feed/s ... 152ce.html
^More info on the 612 North Building. I think this could be a really big deal for the Landing:

http://www.constructforstl.org/3m-inves ... s-landing/
All of these historic renovations and additions are great. A nice sized, new construction building would really kick start Laclede's landing.
chriss752 wrote:
Tue Nov 07, 2017 8:57 pm
All of these historic renovations and additions are great. A nice sized, new construction building would really kick start Laclede's landing.
Does anyone believe Drury will pull trigger on its Landing parcel if BPV phase II is successful/majority leases before it is topped off or even before then? Drury seems like the most likely proposal for any new construction on the landing.

However, I can't help that Drury is behind the curve between what is happening in Clayton CBD, One Hundred in CWE & BPV phase II downtown for high rise residential while a Drury residential/hotel high rise has to deal with reality of 12 hotel proposals being floated in city as noted in PD. So it would tough competition to add hotel rooms on the Landing as another option

https://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/new ... ntown.html

The $11 million hotel, being developed by Tennessee-based ViaNova Development, is one of 12 hotels planned in the city of St. Louis.
Old Metro building moving forward in conversion to apartments and space for Abstrakt

http://www.stltoday.com/business/column ... ail-latest
Would love to see some floor plans, rent prices soon. I'd love to live there. Rooftop plans? This would be an awesome spot for a swanky rooftop bar or lounge. Can't beat the views.
Would like to see the rebuilding of the streets and sidewalks to the rest off the Landing. Think doing this would increase developement activity.
Nothing too exciting, but here's a nice story about Drury's renovation of the Whitte Hardware Building:


“We believe that this project is helping return Laclede’s Landing to the vibrant live-work-play neighborhood it once was, while providing people the opportunity to work in a truly one-of-a-kind historic structure,” said Tom Milford, Drury Development Corporation.

http://stlouiscnr.com/departments/news/ ... dium=email
^ yeah, even though it's an occupied building it's great to see the investment and soon (hopefully) added tenants... also makes you wonder if they are considering bigger plans with their surface lots.
framer wrote:
Fri Jan 12, 2018 11:43 am
“We believe that this project is helping return Laclede’s Landing to the vibrant live-work-play neighborhood it once was, while providing people the opportunity to work in a truly one-of-a-kind historic structure,” said Tom Milford, Drury Development Corporation.
Curious when the Landing last had any real amount of residential. Anyone?
Probably 1800's