Prefab houses going up in Tower Grove East

Discuss renovations and new residential construction in South City -- defined by the area south of Interstate 44/55.
Thrive Development has acquired several TGE properties from the LRA and private owners. Last night some prefab trailers moved into the streets and are being added to 2912 Michigan.

http://imgur.com/a/TRfbB
http://imgur.com/a/atZFK

(Via residents Etta and Martin)

Plans https://www.thrive-stl.com/?lightbox=dataItem-iktuu8u81.

It sounds like 2900 Michigan, 2902 Michigan, 2348 Michigan, 2350 Michigan, 2601 Michigan, and 4529 Connecticut all have the same owner.

2601 Michigan is a double lot on the corner that was being leased by local residents as a community garden but now they've been disrupted without notice.
I kinda like that they are tall and skinny. Good density. Would of course depend on how cheap the final product looks .
the one on Connecticut in TGS also is a community garden now, but I think a home is promising. narrow parcel, btw.

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After I drove past the one they just installed today I think it might squeeze into that Connecticut property. I wouldn't be surprised if they plop a second one on the plot on Michigan either. They are very skinny, I'm curious what they look like inside. My own house is tall and skinny and it's hard enough to work around as it is.

I believe Fox 2 was on scene at some point and planned to broadcast on the 6 PM showing so they may have better shots but I don't see the story on their website yet.

If they put brick on the facade I'll be happier but I would hate to see all siding houses showing up here. The alderwoman seemed to know nothing about the development even though it appears to have ties locally to Garcia.
flipflopju wrote:
Wed Mar 15, 2017 4:23 pm
Thrive Development has acquired several TGE properties from the LRA and private owners. Last night some prefab trailers moved into the streets and are being added to 2912 Michigan.

http://imgur.com/a/TRfbB
http://imgur.com/a/atZFK

(Via residents Etta and Martin)

Plans https://www.thrive-stl.com/?lightbox=dataItem-iktuu8u81.

It sounds like 2900 Michigan, 2902 Michigan, 2348 Michigan, 2350 Michigan, 2601 Michigan, and 4529 Connecticut all have the same owner.

2601 Michigan is a double lot on the corner that was being leased by local residents as a community garden but now they've been disrupted without notice.
The link to plans show single story floor plan but photos of build out show a second story. I'm I missing something here? The two story as being built seems so much better than what a one story would suggest considering how skinny the house is.

As you noted, some brick will go a long way
If these look like BS, I say cancel them


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chriss752 wrote:
Wed Mar 15, 2017 11:22 pm
If these look like BS, I say cancel them


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If they meet code, and there's no underlying zoning or historic restrictions that would require a review, you can't just cancel something because you don't like it. There is nothing but the standard zoning code regulating land-use in this case. That's why neighborhoods need to be proactive, not reactive. Local historic districts open up a different can of worms, but in St. Louis they are the most used method to control designs. I prefer form based codes personally, but PDA still pushes local historic districts first. Since they are written based on what a neighborhood thinks is appropriate, well designed modern buildings can still be considered- it doesn't have to restrict to only faux-historic mullet houses.
^ the fact that these are LRA properties has complicated things; looks like the TGS one has been dropped from the project and we'll see if more on Michigan move forward. I suspect it will depend upon how the one that is going up is met by the community after all is said and done.

Pre-Fab Home's Arrival in Tower Grove East Has Neighbors Fretting
http://www.riverfronttimes.com/newsblog ... s-fretting
The LRA part is what upsets me most. I have some concerns about how the LRA holds properties until a big developer comes and ignores regular citizens. To do that, not include the alderman in the conversation and kick out community gardens would have been upsetting. I'm glad Green was able to protect the Connecticut garden lot.

The developers also pitched this as affordable housing in the neighborhood which I liked but then came back and said they'll be the highest priced properties per square foot in the immediate area which is directly contradictory.
To be devil's advocate after the reading the riverfront times article I have a tough time believing the neighborhood didn't know new construction wasn't happening as they still had to put in the foundation & utilities. So work was going on before the pre-fab sections came down the street. The other part, I doubt that most people would know driving by if these were pre-fab houses once built. Especially the two story version with brick face. I admit that it might be a different story when you go inside and start to get a feel for the house but that is buyer's decision
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As far as price point. Have to agree at first thought on the contradiction if they were pitched as affordable housing when their builder itself saying the will be priced higher then existing. But this is new versus existing older homes & assume this will have two baths where as most older homes were built with one bath so some consideration has to be given. Another consideration, the new houses that will be going up in FPSE have a price point of $300,000 being floated which I see for most new home/condo construction in city Don't know the square footage difference but in terms of new construction within the city you could argue that $200,000 could be considered affordable. Just don't know square footage comparison of this spec house and what will be coming to FPSE or other new homes in the city for a true apples to apples comparison. Anyone with an idea?

As far as LRA. They got north of some 7500 to 8000 properties in the city to deal with. I give them some credit for working with a developer who is adding new infill on spec that will go back into private hands and tax rolls. Most homes in St. Louis were built with no rules in the first place or districts or review boards & why you don't have cookie cutter suburbia in urban centers. In addition, the developer and LRA backed off the community garden lot so obviously someone listens.

To my point, see how this turns out and what the market dictates IMO. Maybe the next one will be litter wider, more brick and maybe you might have a square footage price point that is more affordable in new terms of new construction & another avenue to add housing stock back in the city