Fox Park Update

Discuss renovations and new residential construction in South City -- defined by the area south of Interstate 44/55.
KMOV covered the project... nice to see!

http://www.kmov.com/story/30993856/vaca ... me-tenants
^ Awesome!
http://www.stltoday.com/business/local/new-shared-space-for-young-manufacturers-planned-in-fox-park/article_918af49b-d652-5450-9f32-c5a6704c0c3b.html

They’re calling their venture Brick City Makes, and they want to fix up the 87,000-square-foot factory as industrial office suites for a new generation of nimble manufacturers: One-machine shops that don’t need huge warehouse footprints but may need room to grow can sign up for space in the building while they find their footing in the marketplace.


Rehabbing a building as an industrial incubator is a new venture for DeSales, a nonprofit community development corporation that has mostly stuck to housing rehabs and rental management as a way to improve the Fox Park and Tower Grove East neighborhoods where it operates.
^ sounds promising! I really like small-scale stuff like this and The Fashion Incubator. (I guess you could include T-Rex in that as well,)
RFT - Fox Park Will Be the St. Louis Area's Hottest Neighborhood in 2017, Redfin Says

http://www.riverfronttimes.com/newsblog ... edfin-says
^ good stuff! and it's far from the only South City neighborhood that's hot.
STLrainbow wrote:
Sun Jan 22, 2017 10:35 am
^ good stuff! and it's far from the only South City neighborhood that's hot.
We are seeing some nice growth in areas of Benton Park in just the last 6 months. My SO has friends at Gracia Properties that believe Benton Park is going to be hot as well. Good to see South City growing.
^ I might be reading this redfin thing wrong, but I assume some of the established staples like Benton Park, Tower Grove South & Shaw are "hotter" than Fox Park in terms of the housing market but that Fox Park is an "up-and-comer" poised to see the greatest gains in growth. Anyway, as you say it's great to see at least a good chunk of South City seeing some nice action.
I just bought a house in McKinley Heights for a good price that I am fixing up. I was trying desperately to get into Benton Park to do a rehab but couldn't compete with the developers. Several properties I checked out in Fox Park would also get scooped up very quickly when they hit the market.
A developer is selling 45 units. All vacant.

http://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale/Fo ... ect/14_zm/
^ What?

NOTE: The post to which this referred has been removed.
I flagged as SPAM a few days ago, not sure if the Mods have gotten to it yet or not.
^ are you referring to improv's post? (I don't think that's spam if so.)

Purple Martin has re-opened
There was another post that I left because I didn't consider it spam. Garbled mess of unintelligible babble loosely related? Yes. But not spam. Someone else deleted it.
It also contained a term at the end that should never be used or condoned on this board.
chaifetz10 wrote:
Tue Mar 14, 2017 2:23 pm
It also contained a term at the end that should never be used or condoned on this board.
I missed that. Doesn't matter either way at this point.
MattnSTL wrote:
Tue Mar 14, 2017 3:47 pm
chaifetz10 wrote:
Tue Mar 14, 2017 2:23 pm
It also contained a term at the end that should never be used or condoned on this board.
I missed that. Doesn't matter either way at this point.
yup. the intention wasn't clear as the word was in quotes but, regardless, the post was an incoherent mess.
Not exactly Fox Park, but in the area.

Charless Villiage

This is what good infill looks like:

https://www.google.com/maps/@38.6073192 ... 312!8i6656
This is a must read:

http://www.stlouiscitytalk.com/posts/20 ... ghborhoods

I haven't read something that made my blood boil like this in a long time! Our Alderman and Mayor need to do something about this problem immediately.
GoHarvOrGoHome wrote:
Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:10 pm
Not exactly Fox Park, but in the area.

Charless Villiage

This is what good infill looks like:

https://www.google.com/maps/@38.6073192 ... 312!8i6656
Wow, really does look good.
^ And all of them have sold! Looks like somebody else just picked up the vacant lot across the street last fall so it won't be Vatterott again but I wouldn't be surprised to see that developed soon as well as Vatterott doing more in the area... they do have several vacant lots in Fox Park proper.

SouthCityJR wrote:
Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:50 pm
This is a must read:

http://www.stlouiscitytalk.com/posts/20 ... ghborhoods

I haven't read something that made my blood boil like this in a long time! Our Alderman and Mayor need to do something about this problem immediately.
Definitely a good read. The most frustrating things to me are...
1) the condition/lack of securing the LRA home (which also isn't appearing for sale on their website)
2) the former LRA home that was sold a few years ago but no redevelopment proceeding (though it looks like a permit was issued in 2016) I seem to recall LRA is enabled to take those back if no rehab is done by x amount of months. Anyone know?
3) the one across from Fox Park owned by a nearby business
4) city's general lack of ability to quickly and effectively secure privately-owned buildings, which I think to some extent is due to state laws and to some extent lack of having act together.

But I would say from my admittedly outside look Fox Park seems definitely to be on the up as a whole and what's examined here is atypical (and a number of which do appear to have redevelopment in the works) and different from a more dominant and destructive dynamic that's continuing to depress large swaths of North City. There, properties continue to be abandoned and added to LRA's holdings while in this case it appears to be more of a slower housing market than we might like getting properties out of ownership of absentee owners/speculators and over to those who will return them to use.
The wife and I want to rehab a home in Fox Park for our primary residence and haven't been able to find one yet. It is extremely frustrating driving down streets and seeing a house that you want to rehab boarded up and unused and you can't purchase it. Nothing happens and it just sits there but there is no way of purchasing it.
newstl2020 wrote:
Sun Feb 04, 2018 11:07 am
The wife and I want to rehab a home in Fox Park for our primary residence and haven't been able to find one yet. It is extremely frustrating driving down streets and seeing a house that you want to rehab boarded up and unused and you can't purchase it. Nothing happens and it just sits there but there is no way of purchasing it.
Maybe write to the Alderman. If it's a vacant or boarded up property they will likely be just as motivated to get it into the right hands.
newstl2020 wrote:
Sun Feb 04, 2018 11:07 am
The wife and I want to rehab a home in Fox Park for our primary residence and haven't been able to find one yet. It is extremely frustrating driving down streets and seeing a house that you want to rehab boarded up and unused and you can't purchase it. Nothing happens and it just sits there but there is no way of purchasing it.
Also, while not the most fun have you tried pulling the tax records to get the owner and trying to track them down? Cold-calling is a pain but that is where the best deals are made on places like that.
St. Louis needs some kind of vacant property receivership program. In layman's terms a vacant house would be could be purchased under a irresponsible owner for fair market value by a private or nonprofit entity. It incentivises owners to maintain their properties. I know a few cities on the east coast such as Baltimore use this pretty effectively. Paul McKee would be sad but that sucks for him.