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ricke002 wrote:
STLhistoryBuff wrote:
Mon Jan 22, 2018 3:39 pm
St. Louis is getting a Loews hotel with BPV phase 2
I presume he means "nice" looking, not a "nice" brand.
Yes. I mean nice looking. All that glass would look great!
From my understanding Country Club Plaza has been kind of up and down lately with a number of closures but also some openings, I guess that's just the retail scene in general, but Nordstrom relocating there from a traditional suburban mall raises some eyebrows....

http://fox4kc.com/2018/02/02/nordstrom- ... lub-plaza/

Obviously something like Nordstrom isn't going to go to The Foundry, but I wouldn't be surprised if some top names land there.
^ And now the Plaza is getting a Shake Shack.
Have heard there is going to be a Bi-State transit initiative this year or next. KC Chamber of Commerce and others are pushing the idea forward. If they can put together a coherent plan, I think they could very easily pass it with similar margins to the Better KCI campaign (75-25).

Additionally, Clay Chastain is back in KC with a Light Rail and Streetcar initiative. If I remember correctly it would divert all funds away from the bus system. It probably shouldn't and won't pass.
ldai_phs wrote:
Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:50 pm
3 Light to be announced next week. Potential for 10% Condo. Building should be about 25-30 floors


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I guess this wasn't announced? And I hear they are having a tough time leasing out 2 Light, only 20-30% full?

Does KC have any towers over 25 floors either under construction or proposed?
pdm_ad wrote:
Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:03 pm
I guess this wasn't announced? And I hear they are having a tough time leasing out 2 Light, only 20-30% full?

Does KC have any towers over 25 floors either under construction or proposed?
I'm finding several things close to your figure, but not over. To be frank, it feels a little arbitrary, since KC Power and Light 2 is 24 stories, but in many ways quite similar to BPV 2. And the planned Loew's convention center hotel is 280' more or less, but 23 stories. Nothing super tall, but there's nothing super tall here either. A little taller, but even the 100 is only a Tucker Blvd and a half wider than that Loew's. I don't see why we should be gloating over the width of a stroad. I am suddenly reminded of the Car Talk proposal to use the "Pinkwater" as a unit of measure for car seat width. We could measure buildings in Tuckers. In which case the 100 is 6.3 Tuckers and KC's Loew's is 4.7.

All that said, I believe the point of this thread is to talk about neat stuff in KC, not to start the Vince McMahon Cross State Rumble 5000! KCP&L is a neat project. Honest. I've been up on the roof. It's pretty cool. None of which detracts from cool projects underway elsewhere. And we don't need to feel like it does. A 7.2 Tucker project, while not in any danger of topping KC's 10 Tucker tower, will be pretty cool.

Of course, if we can put a few more stroads on diets then our buildings will look taller without having to gain an inch. It's all about the waste-lanes. Long buildings, wide sidewalks, and slender streets make for a sexy town. And maybe domes. And arches. ;-)
Hampton Inn Construction Crane is now up - 2 blocks over from Convention Center Hotel.

Convention Center Hotel's 1st Tower Crane went up this weekend(2 likely). Groundbreaking is later this week. Its the third crane in the Crossroads.

The Children's Mercy Research Tower is going full steam ahead. Tower Crane also went up this week.

Core Drillings have begun at KCI for the new terminal. Everything is on track for a Q4 2021 open.

Cordish affiliate leaked the news today that a highrise hotel project at Power and Light District should be going up in the next 12 months. I'd guess the flag is either Hyatt or W. If not Hyatt, expect Hyatt to announce something big in downtown "soon". Have heard they are very much actively trying to re-enter the KC Downtown Market.

Three Light has been stalled in City Council. Cordish Affiliate said they have all the plans ready for release, just waiting for the "right time". The stalling is due to a few councilmen wanting to revisit an early 2000's agreement tieing the city to the construction of parking lots. I doubt anything will change and the project will likely move forward soon with no changes.
ldai_phs wrote:Hampton Inn Construction Crane is now up - 2 blocks over from Convention Center Hotel.

Convention Center Hotel's 1st Tower Crane went up this weekend(2 likely). Groundbreaking is later this week. Its the third crane in the Crossroads.

The Children's Mercy Research Tower is going full steam ahead. Tower Crane also went up this week.

Core Drillings have begun at KCI for the new terminal. Everything is on track for a Q4 2021 open.

Cordish affiliate leaked the news today that a highrise hotel project at Power and Light District should be going up in the next 12 months. I'd guess the flag is either Hyatt or W. If not Hyatt, expect Hyatt to announce something big in downtown "soon". Have heard they are very much actively trying to re-enter the KC Downtown Market.

Three Light has been stalled in City Council. Cordish Affiliate said they have all the plans ready for release, just waiting for the "right time". The stalling is due to a few councilmen wanting to revisit an early 2000's agreement tieing the city to the construction of parking lots. I doubt anything will change and the project will likely move forward soon with no changes.
Many things here...
1. CRANES! It is so exciting whenever someone from KC says cranes are going up because, to me, it looks really cool seeing cranes dotted throughout a area. In this case, a majority of them are in a small area known as the Crossroads.
2. The Power and Light District is ripe for a hotel. If it were to be a Hyatt, I would expect it to be a Hyatt Andaz because of how it is a boutique and luxury hotel and could be equal to the Live! By Loews Hotel that Cordish created, in quality.
3. The new airport is VERY Much needed.
4. The Kansas City City Council needs to realize that they represent a city that is going through a Renaissance and any resistance or questioning to development agreements could make a bad impression on perspective developers who wish to develop in KC.
5. Here is the Tower Crane for the Loews Hotel from the NEST webcam.

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ldai_phs wrote:
Tue Feb 27, 2018 11:17 pm
Hampton Inn Construction Crane is now up - 2 blocks over from Convention Center Hotel.

Convention Center Hotel's 1st Tower Crane went up this weekend(2 likely). Groundbreaking is later this week. Its the third crane in the Crossroads.

The Children's Mercy Research Tower is going full steam ahead. Tower Crane also went up this week.

Core Drillings have begun at KCI for the new terminal. Everything is on track for a Q4 2021 open.

Cordish affiliate leaked the news today that a highrise hotel project at Power and Light District should be going up in the next 12 months. I'd guess the flag is either Hyatt or W. If not Hyatt, expect Hyatt to announce something big in downtown "soon". Have heard they are very much actively trying to re-enter the KC Downtown Market.

Three Light has been stalled in City Council. Cordish Affiliate said they have all the plans ready for release, just waiting for the "right time". The stalling is due to a few councilmen wanting to revisit an early 2000's agreement tieing the city to the construction of parking lots. I doubt anything will change and the project will likely move forward soon with no changes.
~90 ish unit apartment building next to streetcar stop approved this week with no incentives

- Streetcar's northernly expansion is in the engineering phase. Rumors abound that Isle of Capri's new owners may be interested in funding an additional leg of the northern expansion to their property. If that were the case, large park and ride Opportunites would open up near the casino and the casino would also likely add a hotel.
- Southern Streetcar Expansion to UMKC will go to a mail-in vote. This is the last required vote.

- I have also heard that a new Condo Tower is being planned for Crown Center. It is likely the master-planned sister of San Fransisco Tower. This is in addition to all the other big projects announced or in the works there. (Three Light may go part Condo)

-CityScapes' MainStreet "Midwest Hotel" project and Opus's faultless linen projects will both start construction in the Crossroads this soon. I can see the "Midwest Hotel" project using another tower crane.

- Copaken Brook's new office building in the crossroads also started construction this month. Sadly, no cranes on this one.
- Had heard recently there was talk of a spec. office tower in the Central Loop(power and light?), it may have turned into a hotel project instead. This will be clarified in time.

- Expect more hotel announcements in the next 2 years.
Kansas City losing millineals. Hmmmm. :?

http://via.fox2now.com/lvPw4
^ the article doesn't say that... it says there was an overall outflow of educated adult population. Here's a bit more background in the KC RIsing report.

https://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/ ... -card.html

KC Rising officials said Kansas City has improved its attraction of younger educated workers but is losing older educated workers. They couldn't cite a specific reason for people leaving the metro area.

Good to see KC has such a leadership group studying key civic metrics.
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ldai_phs wrote:
Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:09 pm
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I really am let down by this tower. Weren't there rumors that this was supposed to be 'skyline-altering'? This looks cookie cutter. I also really feel unimpressed with how the "light" towers add to the KC skyline. With the exception of 2 Light, they are barely noticeable. They also are not very tall. Thankfully in STL they BPV towers are 300+ feet and will occupy a blank sightline so their noticeability will be far better than these.
Chalupas54 wrote:
Fri Mar 23, 2018 3:25 pm
ldai_phs wrote:
Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:09 pm
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I really am let down by this tower. Weren't there rumors that this was supposed to be 'skyline-altering'? This looks cookie cutter. I also really feel unimpressed with how the "light" towers add to the KC skyline. With the exception of 2 Light, they are barely noticeable. They also are not very tall. Thankfully in STL they BPV towers are 300+ feet and will occupy a blank sightline so their noticeability will be far better than these.
3 Light appears to be about 30 stories. The BPV towers are a much better-looking design IMHO. I think that 4 Light and hopefully also 6 Light will look a lot more like BPV towers.

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ldai_phs wrote:
Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:09 pm
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In regards to this, I like the design a lot. I had the opportunity to speak to a Cordish worker on this today, he says that the desire is to NOT redesign the tower and break ground as soon as the City of Kansas City approves the full plan and issues a building permit for the foundations. He stressed however that the debate presented by Councilwomen Kathryn Shields and Alissia Canady nearly derailed the project but they are happy with the concessions made.

On another note, the preliminary website for Three Light is live.

http://threelightkc.com/
St.Louis1764 wrote:
Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:30 pm
Im actually excited to see the renderings of 3 light I'm just hoping it doesn't look like 1 cardinal way :lol:
It does with the slanted roof.
Actually not a bad looking building One Cardinal Way has a bit more pizazz to it however i'll gladly take this building & incorporate it into phase 3 of BPV... Its good to know that the 2 council women didnt derail this project...
KCI Update: SWA announced today that the new KCI will be built bigger than first planned. The idea is now a 39-42 Gate Terminal expandable up to 50 Gates. I believe that there are currently 27 leased gates.
Not quite.

The top four airlines announced their annual passenger numbers keep rising nationwide and are projecting growth ans space needs at KC.

SWA's KC rep said that they would be interested in more gates. Surely. SWA has not committed, nor any of the other airlines in KC have to any new gates.

It's good to do though.

The new terminal will build to accommodate 4 additional gates.
Total: 39 instead of 35 for all airlines.

Future planning over 5 years after the new terminal opening will allow another 3 gates to 42 total.

But, here is the reality and most are figuring this out.

The new single terminal was presented and fan fared for cost. Now they announce the cost has gone up and the opening date pushed off even further. The new airport may open now in 2022 if all goes well. This was a political move to get approval at the cost level they knew would sell it to the public.

http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/ar ... 23554.html
matguy70 wrote:Not quite.

The top four airlines announced their annual passenger numbers keep rising nationwide and are projecting growth ans space needs at KC.

SWA's KC rep said that they would be interested in more gates. Surely. SWA has not committed, nor any of the other airlines in KC have to any new gates.

It's good to do though.

The new terminal will build to accommodate 4 additional gates.
Total: 39 instead of 35 for all airlines.

Future planning over 5 years after the new terminal opening will allow another 3 gates to 42 total.

But, here is the reality and most are figuring this out.

The new single terminal was presented and fan fared for cost. Now they announce the cost has gone up and the opening date pushed off even further. The new airport may open now in 2022 if all goes well. This was a political move to get approval at the cost level they knew would sell it to the public.

http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/ar ... 23554.html
SWA made the announcement so that’s why I said SWA. The drive for more gates in the new terminal is being lead by SWA for mostly SWA usage. Remember that the addition of more gates is being payed for by the Airlines and is a decision made by the Airlines.

Additionally, if you look closely at some public documents from last summer 2022 has always been the planned open date. Late 2021 was just when the airport would be handed over to the aviation department. This handover has been pushed to 2022.