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dredger wrote:
Thu Nov 16, 2017 7:24 pm
Their must be some relief in KC that the T-Mobile/Spring merger fell apart. I understood from reporting that KC might be the one to take the brunt of the corporate consolidation that STL has experienced in the name of corporate synergies/cost savings to pay for merger debt.. Instead, I believe Sprint is going to double down on its capital expenditures to be more competitive in the wireless market.
The merger fortunately appears to be off the table for good as it would indeed have killed KC jobs. There are rumblings now that Sprint's parent is considering pursuing Charter. If that happens, should have less impact on KC jobs than a TMobile merger, and potentially more jobs for KC, maybe. Cerner is the new job engine in KC though, adding a couple thousand every year. New 4M sqft Cerner campus is expected to add 16K more local jobs and now there are rumblings of expansion to a whopping 12M sqft long term, too bad the location sucks.

KC is growing rapidly with Pro Biz Services jobs partly due to Cerner, though lost a lot of Info jobs due to major Sprint cuts over the years. Nearly 200K Pro Biz jobs in KC, growing over 45K last 10 years....
https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/SMU2928 ... raphs=true

About 218K Pro Biz in STL, growing 24K last 10 years...
https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/SMU2941 ... raphs=true
Moved...

Amazon/AWS is partnering with Cerner based in KC. Is not likely KC or STL will get HQ2 but this is interesting as Cerner wants a piece of medical records industry (and KC is getting a new airport)...

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/11/22/aws-is- ... ntent.html
earthling wrote:Moved...

Amazon/AWS is partnering with Cerner based in KC. Is not likely KC or STL will get HQ2 but this is interesting as Cerner wants a piece of medical records industry (and KC is getting a new airport)...

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/11/22/aws-is- ... ntent.html
Great to hear. Two Big KC Tech Announcements this week. This and Google’s urban mobility program


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New KC airport hits a snag

City council rejects Edgemoors MOU.

http://fox4kc.com/2017/12/14/kansas-cit ... l-airport/
jshank83 wrote:
Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:38 pm
New KC airport hits a snag

City council rejects Edgemoors MOU.

http://fox4kc.com/2017/12/14/kansas-cit ... l-airport/
More than just a snag. It's probably dead.

*giggles silently*
Probably not dead. Just delayed.

If there’s a legal battle, then delayed significantly.


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But... Here's the deal. It was mention briefly in that news piece. KC citizens voted FOR that design and THAT proposal. Now, the monies, design and entire logistics will change. That being said... WTH. If I was a KCian and learned that this opposition was shoveled under the table until after an approving vote, I would be pissed. I would demand another public vote on the new guidelines, proposal and bid.

It also sounds like Edgewood wasn't too upset. I can see a lawsuit for the city and also tell KC voters they have been taken.
Guess someone else is saying it too...

http://www.kansascity.com/opinion/edito ... 96119.html
Oh boy. Here's a winner: "If that negotiation [with AECOM] would also fail, other firms like Burns and McDonnell could be considered." Something here stinks, and I don't think it's just the rather stale writing. Did B&M not file some kind of suit some months back related to the selection process? Might be worth investigating their campaign contributions. Honestly, it seems high time to generally note who has given what to whom. If I were in KC I would be pissed. Can anyone in the architecture biz comment on whether or not a thirty mil downpayment on design work for a billion dollar project is unusual? Three percent doesn't sound absurd to me, but it's not my bag so I can't really say.
Based off the reporting coming out over this, this project looks gravely in danger. This is probably a multiple year delay. In the KC Star article they hint at how no one wants to touch this project — this definitely could kill it.

I bet some of the employees at KSTL are sleeping soundly tonight.


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This was the ballot language.

Shall the City of Kansas City be authorized to construct a new passenger terminal at Kansas City International Airport and demolish existing terminals as necessary, with all costs paid solely from the revenues derived by the City from the operation of its airports and related facilities, and without the issuance of general airport revenue bonds unless such general airport revenue bonds have received prior voter approval?

The voters didn't vote for a design, only to demolish the current terminal. This which to me is the big thing and won't change. They won't have to revote. That all said I am sure this delays things for a while. I am also sure that won't do them any favors with the airlines.
jshank83 wrote:
Fri Dec 15, 2017 9:09 am
The voters didn't vote for a design, only to demolish the current terminal. This which to me is the big thing and won't change. They won't have to revote. That all said I am sure this delays things for a while. I am also sure that won't do them any favors with the airlines.
Yeah, this doesn't at all kill a new airport, but it will likely delay it for at least a year.
Charter now offers Gigabit in KC, entire footprint. Will STL get it?

200Mbps down and 10Mbps up for $45/month and $50 install fee
400Mbps down and 20Mbps up for $70/month and $50 install fee
1000Mbps down and 35Mbps up for $105/month and $200 install fee

Google Fiber is 100/100 for $50/month or 1000/1000 for $70/month - no install fees. And Google still offers the free 5M.
The entire new KC airport may be derailed...

Mayor Sly James just asked for the entire process to "start over"
earthling wrote:
Tue Dec 19, 2017 2:05 pm
Charter now offers Gigabit in KC, entire footprint. Will STL get it?

200Mbps down and 10Mbps up for $45/month and $50 install fee
400Mbps down and 20Mbps up for $70/month and $50 install fee
1000Mbps down and 35Mbps up for $105/month and $200 install fee

Google Fiber is 100/100 for $50/month or 1000/1000 for $70/month - no install fees. And Google still offers the free 5M.
I'm pretty sure STL has gigabit offered by AT&T and Charter I would assume is coming.
Here is AT&T's Gigapower map. Not a very big footprint either place, 3X more in KC area than STL...
https://www.att.com/att/mdu/

Charter Gigabit is in entire footprint.
earthling wrote:
Tue Dec 19, 2017 2:59 pm
Here is AT&T's Gigapower map. Not a very big footprint either place, 3X more in KC area than STL...
https://www.att.com/att/mdu/

Charter Gigabit is in entire footprint.
What's your point?
Charter has been offering Gig service for over year here in STL.

https://enterprise.spectrum.com/content ... er_Map.pdf
^Enterprise business only, not residential. Looking now at other cities that have Charter residential Gigabit, it looks to only be former TimeWarnerCable cities that had 300M upgrades over last few years (Charter recently acquired TWC). They are now upgraded to Gigabit in entire footprint.
earthling wrote:
Tue Dec 19, 2017 2:59 pm
Here is AT&T's Gigapower map. Not a very big footprint either place, 3X more in KC area than STL...
https://www.att.com/att/mdu/

Charter Gigabit is in entire footprint.
This map isn't updated. I can get ATT at my house and it isn't on the list. They installed it at least a year ago so this is at least a year behind, at least in STL.

It is $80 a month for 1000 mbps download, free install.

Not sure why this forum now is a KC vs STL gigabit thing though. This is for KC news. Not city comparisons.
jshank83 wrote:
earthling wrote:
Tue Dec 19, 2017 2:59 pm
Here is AT&T's Gigapower map. Not a very big footprint either place, 3X more in KC area than STL...
https://www.att.com/att/mdu/

Charter Gigabit is in entire footprint.


Not sure why this forum now is a KC vs STL gigabit thing though. This is for KC news. Not city comparisons.
As I have stated multiple times, this thread should be locked. STL posters are not doing this in their forums, they should not be doing it here.


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jshank83 wrote:
Wed Dec 20, 2017 9:56 am
earthling wrote:
Tue Dec 19, 2017 2:59 pm
Here is AT&T's Gigapower map. Not a very big footprint either place, 3X more in KC area than STL...
https://www.att.com/att/mdu/

Charter Gigabit is in entire footprint.
This map isn't updated. I can get ATT at my house and it isn't on the list. They installed it at least a year ago so this is at least a year behind, at least in STL.

It is $80 a month for 1000 mbps download, free install.

Not sure why this forum now is a KC vs STL gigabit thing though. This is for KC news. Not city comparisons.
They were stringing up the fiber lines in my backyard last year. I live in a part of U-City north of Delmar with unfortunately no alleys so they were like yard hopping, looked like it sucked...some contractor crew from Kansas i think.
Chalupas54 wrote:
Wed Dec 20, 2017 11:11 am
jshank83 wrote:
earthling wrote:
Tue Dec 19, 2017 2:59 pm
Here is AT&T's Gigapower map. Not a very big footprint either place, 3X more in KC area than STL...
https://www.att.com/att/mdu/

Charter Gigabit is in entire footprint.


Not sure why this forum now is a KC vs STL gigabit thing though. This is for KC news. Not city comparisons.
As I have stated multiple times, this thread should be locked. STL posters are not doing this in their forums, they should not be doing it here.


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who cares, really. lets just move on with the discussion, no reason to lock it.

in a nutshell, can someone explain what happened with the kc airport?
Hotel Indigo with 27 residential units above opened in 12 story historic building.

https://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/ ... -tour.html
warwickland wrote:
Wed Dec 20, 2017 12:21 pm

in a nutshell, can someone explain what happened with the kc airport?
The city council rejected the memorandum of understanding with Edgemoor to build the new airport. They might now reopen the process and start from scratch picking a different company to build it. Mostly it could just delay the project by years. It probably will still happen but the timeline is going to be stretched out.