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Unread post by framer » Tue Jan 16, 2007 11:53 pm

Now that's a depressing article! If other airports are so congested, then why don't the airlines move more flights here, when we've got so much excess capacity?

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TWA RIP... :(

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Unread post by matt » Fri Jan 19, 2007 2:52 pm

American has violated every labor agreement reached during the negotiations to buy TWA. I don't know if American's management is any different from Carl Icahn.



A lot of former TWA people claim that American has been running around like a kid with scissors because the Bush administration allows it. Maybe when some checks and balances are restored, American will be forced to practice fair trade and adopt some ethics.



It's funny that St. Louis press hasn't told the story and how it continues to unfold.

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This Thread is for information concerning LAMBERT ST. LOUIS INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT with regards to:

Airport News, Information, Flight Information, Airlines Information, Planning, Progress and Promotion.


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Unread post by m2tbone » Tue Jan 23, 2007 8:02 am

As reported on the front page of the Post-Dispatch today, AirTran will start flying four daily flights to Atlanta on May 8th. A daily flight to Orlando will start on June 7th, too.

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Unread post by matguy70 » Tue Jan 23, 2007 9:42 am

This is good news for STL

Continues to show Lambert growing again.

I wonder what gates and concourse they will be in... hopefully "D". It actually is the only one I can think that has opening for a new airline.



Low-cost airline will take off at Lambert

By Elisa Crouch

ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH

01/23/2007



FILE PHOTO: Passengers load their luggage and obtain their boarding passes at the AirTran Airways counter at Orlando International airport.

(Peter Cosgrove/AP)



A new air carrier is coming to Lambert Field — one that could lower the cost of flying to the East Coast.



AirTran Airways, based in Orlando, Fla., plans to announce today that it is entering the St. Louis market on May 8 with four daily nonstop flights to Atlanta, with prices starting at $59. On June 7, it will add a daily nonstop flight to Orlando, with prices starting at $79.



AirTran's presence is strongest along the Atlantic, especially Florida.



"When they enter the market, they will certainly affect the price people will pay to go east," said Brian Kinsey, Lambert business and marketing manager. Advertisement



But AirTran's decision to enter the St. Louis market is proof that Lambert is on the upswing. Nearly four years after American Airlines cutbacks in 2003, the number of passenger boardings are steadily rising. Air carriers are replacing smaller, regional jets with larger airplanes.



"We're slowly recovering," Airport Director Kevin Dolliole said. "We're stable."



Another air carrier gives St. Louis travelers more options, he said. "It opens more doors and more ways of getting from point A to point B."



Southwest Airlines, now the airport's second largest air carrier, entered the St. Louis market in 1985 with a handful of flights to Kansas City and Chicago.



"There's always a potential as a new carrier enters a market for potential growth down the road," Dolliole said.



AirTran operates its hub from Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport, where it serves as the second largest air carrier. The company is a subsidiary of publicly traded AirTran Holdings and is the world's largest operator of the Boeing 717, which has 117 seats. It also flies the Boeing 737, which has 137 seats.



The average age of AirTran's fleet is three years, company spokeswoman Judy Graham-Weaver said.



It's the only low-cost carrier with a business class. Upgrades start at $40.



AirTran offers 700 daily flights and has 53 destinations in its route network. A traveler flying from St. Louis will be able to fly to 36 of those destinations, Graham-Weaver said.



AirTran is entering the Phoenix market next month. In addition to Lambert, the airline plans to announce today that it will begin service at yet another airport, Graham-Weaver said.



The airline is pursuing a merger with Midwest Airlines, which operates Midwest Connection flights at Lambert. Midwest has rebuffed its approach.



Lambert officials began pursuing AirTran in 2003, Kinsey said. He had hoped to have AirTran much sooner.



"We're sure glad they're here now," he said. "It's been a lot of work for the entire staff."



In coming days, Lambert and AirTran officials will work out such details as gate arrangements. Kinsey said it's not determined which concourse the airline will use.



"This is great for us and it shows the market is a good market for a carrier like this," Kinsey added. "We hope this is the first of other announcements coming along soon."



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AirTran Airways Announces Service to Lambert-St. louis International Airport





St. Louis Service Begins May 8, 2007

ORLANDO, Fla. (January 23, 2007) — AirTran Airways, a subsidiary of AirTran Holdings, Inc. (NYSE: AAI), today announced plans to begin service at Lambert-St. Louis International Airport (STL). Starting May 8, 2007, the growing low-fare carrier will take Gateway City residents from one Olympic city to another with daily nonstop flights to and from Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport and connections to 36 airports nationwide. AirTran Airways will also add daily nonstop service to Orlando International Airport starting June 7, 2007. St. Louis is the 53rd destination to be served by the award-winning low-fare airline.



AirTran Airways will be the only carrier out of St. Louis to offer Business Class seating and free XM Satellite Radio on every flight. Plus, with introductory fares as low as $59* one-way, visitors and residents alike should have plenty of money left to shop downtown, catch dinner on The Hill and even treat themselves at Ted Drewes.



“We are pleased that AirTran Airways sees St. Louis as a great market,” said Mayor Francis Slay. “Under the leadership of Kevin Dolliole, Lambert continues on a course of steady improvement. I believe the best is still ahead for our airport.”



“AirTran Airways is proud to bring outstanding low-fare service, complete with an award-winning frequent flyer program and the country's youngest all-Boeing fleet, to the St. Louis metropolitan area,” said Bob Fornaro, AirTran Airways' president and chief operating officer. “For St. Louis residents, our airline will be the gateway to low fares, nonstop service to Atlanta and Orlando, and easy connections to 36 destinations across the United States on our ever-expanding route map.”



“I'm excited about AirTran Airways coming to St. Louis,” said Airport Director Kevin Dolliole. “The high quality service it offers business and pleasure travelers will greatly benefit the community and the region.”



The following nonstop service from Lambert-St. Louis International Airport is available beginning May 8, 2007, unless otherwise noted:







Nonstop Service From St. Louis to Atlanta From To Flight Departs Arrives Frequency



St. Louis Atlanta 780** 6:00 a.m. 8:35 a.m. Daily



St. Louis Atlanta 786 10:30 a.m. 1:05 p.m. Daily

St. Louis Atlanta 784 2:00 p.m. 4:35 p.m. Daily

St. Louis Atlanta 788 5:20 p.m. 7:55 p.m. Daily





** Effective May 9th







Nonstop Service From Atlanta to St. Louis



From To Flight Departs Arrives Frequency



Atlanta St. Louis 789 9:10 a.m. 9:55 a.m. Daily



Atlanta St. Louis 783 12:40 p.m. 1:25 p.m. Daily

Atlanta St. Louis 781 4:00 p.m 4:45 p.m. Daily

Atlanta St. Louis 785 9:00 p.m. 9:45 p.m. Daily





Nonstop Service Between St. Louis and Orlando*** From To Flight Departs Arrives Frequency

St. Louis Orlando 790 11:25 a.m. 2:40 p.m. Daily

Orlando St. Louis 791 9:15 a.m. 10:50 a.m. Daily



***Effective June 7, 2007.



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Unread post by mill204 » Tue Jan 23, 2007 9:57 am

It would have been nice to have them a little earlier. Delta's flights to Atlanta are outrageous: $479 round trip for the May 11th weekend. Of course, if you don't mind a layover in Cincinnati followed by a quick jog back to Kansas City before arriving in Atlanta, you can get there for the low price of $295 round trip, that is, after 8-1/2 hours flying not including security (driving takes 9 hours). So, go AirTran!

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Unread post by manchester » Wed Jan 24, 2007 5:52 pm

Thats great news!!! Its great to see Frontier and Air Tran taking more of an interest in Lambert. It would be nice if they managed to attract Midwest and JetBlue.

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Unread post by matguy70 » Thu Jan 25, 2007 5:56 pm

MIDWEST Airlines already serves STL.



Jet Blue has been rumored to be interested in adding STL service.

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Unread post by migueltejada » Fri Jan 26, 2007 6:27 am

Be careful though if you have a brat for a child. AirTran doesn't allow screaming toddlers on board :lol:

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Unread post by arch city » Fri Jan 26, 2007 12:01 pm

Good to see Lambert recovering.
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Unread post by stldtfan » Sun Jan 28, 2007 7:41 pm

I agree that Lambert needs more traffic.



Of course, a less congested airport means that you don't have an hour wait for @#$#)&@)#& security clearances.

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Unread post by framer » Mon Jan 29, 2007 12:17 am

^Would you rather get through security 15 minutes faster, just to have to catch a transfer flight through Atlanta, on your way to LA? Remember, a busier airport means more direct flights to more cities.

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Unread post by tiabstl » Mon Jan 29, 2007 1:26 am

bsharmastl wrote:
Of course, a less congested airport means that you don't have an hour wait for @#$#)&@)#& security clearances.




If that theory would hold true, then why did we wait an hour this past summer at Lambert, while we waited only five minutes at MUCH larger San Francisco?



And I'm sorry, but if there is ever another terrorist attack on a plane in this nation, I bet it will be from Lambert. The people at our airport are right up there with the people who work at Walgreens: they are the most miserable group of people who absolutely hate their job.

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Unread post by jambo » Mon Jan 29, 2007 5:00 pm

^^^ I don't see much difference between the TSA folks at Lambert versus Las Vegas or Sacramento or DC-Reagan/ Dulles or Richmond.



I have noticed the TSA folks at the really small airports are much more thorough at baggage scanning!

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Unread post by stlmo314 » Tue Jan 30, 2007 9:55 am

Just got an email from Airtran, hopefully these low fares should make flying into and out of STL cheaper.



STL sale fares on Airtran (with a connection in Atlanta) starting in May....





Sale fares* between St. Louis and:



All fares are one-way, no roundtrip required.



Akron/Canton $84

Atlanta $64

Baltimore $84

Boston $94

Buffalo/Niagara $84

Charlotte $84

Dayton $84

Daytona Beach $84

Ft. Lauderdale $84

Ft. Myers $84

Grand Bahama Island $94

Gulfport/Biloxi $84

Houston (Hobby) $99

Indianapolis $84

Jacksonville $84

Memphis $84

Miami $94

New Orleans $84

New York (LaGuardia) $99

Newark $99

Newburgh $84

Newport News/Williamsburg $84

Orlando $84

Pensacola/Gulf Coast $84

Philadelphia $94

Pittsburgh $84

Raleigh/Durham $84

Richmond $84

Rochester $84

Sarasota/Bradenton $84

Savannah/Hilton Head $84

Tampa $84

Washington, D.C. (Dulles) $94

Washington, D.C. (Reagan National) $94

West Palm Beach $84

White Plains $84

Wichita $84





Phoenix service begins February 15, 2007.

St. Louis service begins May 8, 2007.

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Unread post by stlmike » Tue Jan 30, 2007 10:43 am

^ I can't wait till May when the service to St. Louis opens.

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Unread post by matguy70 » Tue Jan 30, 2007 12:27 pm

a busier airport means more direct flights to more cities.




January 2007

Non-Stop* Service to St. Louis

There are 365 non-stop flights inbound/outbound St. Louis each day to over 90 cities nationally and internationally.



STATE/ CITIES SERVED



Alabama: Birmingham

Arkansas: Little Rock, Northwest Arkansas

Arizona: Phoenix

California: Los Angeles, Orange County, San Diego, Santa Ana, San Francisco

Colorado: Denver

Connecticut: Hartford

District of Columbia: Washington-Reagan, Washington-Dulles, BWI

Florida: Fort Lauderdale, Fort Meyers, Jacksonville, Miami, Orlando, Sarasota/Bradenton, St. Petersburg, Tampa

Georgia: Atlanta

Illinois: Chicago O’Hare, Chicago Midway, Decatur, Marion, Peoria, Quincy, Springfield

Indiana: Indianapolis

Iowa: Burlington, Cedar Rapids, Des Moines

Kansas: Wichita

Kentucky: Louisville, Owensboro, Paducah

Louisiana: New Orleans, Baton Rouge

Maryland: Baltimore

Massachusetts: Boston

Michigan: Detroit

Minnesota: Minneapolis/St. Paul

Missouri: Columbia, Cape Girardeau, Fort Leonard Wood, Kansas City, Kirksville, Joplin, Springfield

Nebraska: Omaha

Nevada: Las Vegas

New Hampshire: Manchester

New Mexico: Albuquerque

New Jersey: Newark

New York: New York LaGuardia, J.F.K., Long Island MacArthur

North Carolina: Charlotte, Raleigh/Durham

Oklahoma: Oklahoma City, Tulsa

Ohio: Cleveland, Cincinnati, Columbus, Dayton

Pennsylvania: Philadelphia, Pittsburgh

Rhode Island: Providence

Tennessee: Jackson, Memphis, Nashville

Texas: Austin, Dallas/Fort Worth, Houston, San Antonio

Utah: Salt Lake City

Virginia: Norfolk, Richmond

Washington: Seattle

Wisconsin: Madison, Milwaukee

U.K. London (Ryan Airlines Charter)

Dominican Republic: Punta Cana

Mexico: Cancun, Puerto Vallarta, Acapulco

Jamaica: Montego Bay

Canada: Toronto



*NON STOP: Airport to Airport service (no connections)



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The media and "rumors" that Lambert has a lot fewer non-stop flights out of the city is just that "Rumor"



Prior to the AA cutbacks in 2002 - Lambert served almost as many non-stop flights to the same cities they do today... IT WAS the frequency of flights that were cut by AA not destinations. Granted some AA destinations were cut - but very few. Most of those flight destinations cut have been added as nonstop by other carriers since 2002. AA has also added back about 80 percent frequency of flights cut in 2002.



Connection traffic at Lambert International is up as well (Travelers changing planes in St. Louis from other cities getting to their destination city) Which is good news. American Airlines and Southwest Airlines offer connections to other nonstop/direct service from STL International. AA makes passenger connections through their STL International Hub to the following destination airports:



Atlanta, GA

Austin, TX

Dallas, TX

Hartford, CT

Nashville, TN

Baltimore, MD

Cedar Rapids, IA

Charlotte, NC

Columbia, MO

Washington-Reagan, DC

Decatur, IL

Denver, CO

Des Moines, IA

Houston, TX

Indianapolis, IN

Jacksonville, FL

Joplin, MO

Little Rock, AR

Memphis, TN

Milwaukee, WI

Madison, WI

New Orleans, LA

Oklahoma City, OK

Philadelphia, PA

Raleigh/Durham, NC

Richmond, VA

Springfield, MO

Springfield, IL

Sarasoto/Bradenton, FL

Tulsa, OK

Fayetteville, AR

Chicago, IL
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Unread post by redrey » Tue Jan 30, 2007 2:07 pm

I've been flying between STL and SFO/OAK/SJC for many years and have never see a non-stop other than STL-SFO. This is consistent with Lambert's own website.

What is the source of these lists, and what exatcly is your definition of "non-stop"?



Lambert Non-stop service

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Unread post by matguy70 » Tue Jan 30, 2007 4:22 pm

The actual map on Lambert's website has been the same since 2005. Sad, isn't that. I have actually emailed them about that many occassions.



As pointed out:



NON STOP SERVICE - City A to City B - no stops, no interuption in flight

DIRECT SERVICE - City A to City B - with a stop (no change of plane) in another city.

CONNECTION SERVICE - City A to City B - with a change of planes in another city.





I own a tour/travel company in St. Louis - we run WorldSpan - the airline industries global travel distribution system (actual system used to track all airline flight reservations / flights). The above cities are all referenced as of January 30, 2007 with non-stop service from STL. Total Non Stop flights from STL International: January 22-28, 2007 equaled 2554 non stop flights recorded for week of (avg per day: 364 non stop flights) / Total (all commercial passenger) Flights recorded for that same period: 5667 flights all commercial flights (avg per day: 809 per day)

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Non-stop flights from STL to California cities:



Los Angeles, Orange County, San Diego, San Francisco, Santa Ana



I am showing the you can fly to Oakland on Southwest Airlines or American with a 1 stop direct flights. No change of planes - but it is not non stop.



I am showing that you can fly to SF on several non stop flights/several airlines per day from STL



I am showing that starting January 31, 2007 - AA will start non stop service to Orange County, CA from STL

SNA (Orange County) to STL: 2:25p 4:35p American Airlines (AA) 1345 Non-Stop M80 Service begins / eff. 1/31

STL to SNA (Orange County): 9:55a 3:20p American Airlines (AA) 1062 Non-Stop M80 Service begins / eff. 1/31



The cities referenced above with NON STOP service from STL is updated continuously with WorldSpan.

The following information is on WorldSpan STL information / updated by Airports Council International:



Lambert-STL International Overview

St. Louis—Lambert International Airport opened its new runway in April 2006 and launched a major renovation of its terminals and related facilities. The new runway will provide airlines the ability to simultaneously land 2 planes, even in bad weather.



Passenger traffic at Lambert is increasing; for example, enplanements both originating and connecting, increased 10% between 2004 and 2005.

With 380 daily flights and 94 non—stop domestic and international destinations currently, Lambert is aggressively in pursuit of bringing new flights and airlines to the St. Louis area.

Source: Airports Council International

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Unread post by redrey » Tue Jan 30, 2007 4:52 pm

^Thanks for the edit and clarification- I wish I had those tools at my disposal.

On a side note- I think many people unfairly associate the negative changes in airline travel in general (cutbacks in service, increased security measures) with their experiences at Lambert. In my opinion, fewer people were using Lambert temporarily, but most of the traffic seems to be back. I've been pleased with most of the recent (yes, long overdue) in-terminal changes. My only recent negative experience was the lack of adequate personnel at the security gate the day before the world series began!

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Unread post by thewayofthearch » Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:36 am

American Eagle schedules St. Louis-Springfield flights

St. Louis Business Journal - 2:38 PM CST Monday



American Airlines' regional affiliate American Eagle said recently that it plans to add nonstop service between Lambert-St. Louis International Airport and Springfield-Branson National Airport, beginning April 10.



American Eagle will operate round-trip service between the two Missouri cities using a 37-seat Embraer ERJ-135 regional jet.





"American Eagle is proud to return the AA brand to this route, supplementing our existing Chicago and Dallas/Fort Worth service into and out of Springfield," American Eagle President Peter Bowler said in a statement. "This route is also possible because of the quality work performed by our overnight maintenance team in Springfield, which has grown to 76 employees since we opened our base there 12 years ago."



Effective in April, the daily flights will depart St. Louis at 6:35 p.m. and arrive in Springfield-Branson at 7:35 p.m. Returning from Springfield-Branson, the flight will leave for St. Louis at 6:35 a.m. and arrive at 7:35 a.m.



American Eagle operates more than 1,800 daily flights to more than 140 cities throughout the United States, Canada, the Bahamas, Mexico and the Caribbean.



Fort Worth, Texas-based American Airlines is the operating arm of AMR Corp. (NYSE: AMR) and has operations in St. Louis.
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Unread post by stlmo314 » Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:53 am

Virgin America will begin service within the next year (pending government approval), and is considering 40 cities to fly to, including St. Louis. Vote for St. Louis on their website here...



http://www.letvafly.com/mt/2007/01/tell ... irgin.html



Currently, St. Louis has only 1% of the votes, lets bump that up.

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Unread post by urban elitist » Wed Feb 07, 2007 2:35 pm

STLMO314 wrote:Virgin America will begin service within the next year (pending government approval), and is considering 40 cities to fly to, including St. Louis. Vote for St. Louis on their website here...



http://www.letvafly.com/mt/2007/01/tell ... irgin.html



Currently, St. Louis has only 1% of the votes, lets bump that up.
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